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Posted by sleepy head on 08-18-2021 10:22 AM:

Vaccine card

Did you ever think in America you would have to show proof of a vaccine to eat out or do other business? And have politicians bragging about it like it will help them get reelected? I've said it before, nothing more dangerous than a frightened libtard. If the constitution would of be written by a bunch of frightened libtards we would have no rights at all


Posted by cripple creek on 08-19-2021 01:47 AM:

Got a friend stranded in New Orleans

Who can't get into a restaurant without a vaccination card.
They went to vacation and are stuck.

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Posted by shadinc on 08-19-2021 03:01 AM:

Re: Got a friend stranded in New Orleans

quote:
Originally posted by cripple creek
Who can't get into a restaurant without a vaccination card.
They went to vacation and are stuck.

Are they going to choose starvation or the vaccine?

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-19-2021 04:25 AM:

Oh my goodness, all they have to do is get a negative Covid test. Y'all are so dramatic, "can't get into a restaurant". It is called planning ahead.


Posted by sleepy head on 08-19-2021 10:14 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Oh my goodness, all they have to do is get a negative Covid test. Y'all are so dramatic, "can't get into a restaurant". It is called planning ahead.


You must still have the delusion that being vaccinated keeps you from being a super spreader. Government ordered proof of having a super spreader card is insane.

Delusion_an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.


Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-19-2021 01:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepy head
....Delusion_an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.


Generally accepted by who? I bet that it is killing you that almost 75% of adults have chosen to get vaccinated. I don't like the government mandating that everyone must get vaccinated But I understand it as long as there are delusional people like you that refuse to get vaccinated despite it being generally accepted by almost 75% of people. I also don't like the government mandating seat belt use, motorcycle helmets, no drinking and driving. I also didn't like government mandated military service or "the draft" but I understand the reasoning behind them.

When I went on vacation in the Spring they had the big gas pipeline hack and all of the gas stations ran out of gas. I was afraid that I would get stranded without any gas. It took some planning ahead and extra driving but with my gas buddy app I never ran out.


Posted by sleepy head on 08-19-2021 02:10 PM:

I don't know how true it is that a test neg. gets you in, but let's say it is, so I get in with people much more likely to be unknown by them, spreaders, and this somehow better? Beyond my understanding


Posted by 4play on 08-19-2021 02:28 PM:

LOL

Now 'some' are reporting vaccinated people are the super spreaders.They got it,they shed it to others.Vaccinated or not

Another Prof. {more up to date than lying Fauci} says Covid will NEVER be gone since it came from an animal.Even with 100% vaccination worldwide.

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Posted by yadkinriver on 08-19-2021 02:31 PM:

Gotta give ya credit Richard, looks like you're gonna go down fighting. I just have trouble believing that you believe everything that the government tells you. Even your hacked pipeline that was reported later could have been reopened manually and was paid off for a measley five million in bitcoin. I call BS on that and the fact that the price of gas will go back down when it's reopened. Well did it? Sure and the election was legit too. You don't nibble you swallow hook line and sinker. Good new is they are going to start giving booster shot Sept 20 so you might want to hook up your catheter and get in line.
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Posted by shadinc on 08-19-2021 03:52 PM:

I could understand the reluctance to be vaccinated in January. Now, we're 9 months into this, and vaccinated people are getting covid at a much lower rate than non vaccinated, It seems logical to get the shot. Also, among the infected, vaccinated are surviving at a much higher rate than unvaccinated.

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Posted by 4play on 08-19-2021 05:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
I could understand the reluctance to be vaccinated in January. Now, we're 9 months into this, and vaccinated people are getting covid at a much lower rate than non vaccinated, It seems logical to get the shot. Also, among the infected, vaccinated are surviving at a much higher rate than unvaccinated.


WRONG!!
99.7 vs 99.6% is mute

Also I know more that got covid that are vaccinated,that didn't.

Vaccination will NEVER kill Covid.It's here to stay,like the Flu

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Posted by shadinc on 08-19-2021 05:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by 4play
WRONG!!
99.7 vs 99.6% is mute

Also I know more that got covid that are vaccinated,that didn't.

Vaccination will NEVER kill Covid.It's here to stay,like the Flu

Do you even know what you're saying? It's here to stay like the flu, so we take a flu vaccine every year.

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Posted by 4play on 08-19-2021 05:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
Do you even know what you're saying? It's here to stay like the flu, so we take a flu vaccine every year.


AND......the Flu is still here.What don't you get?
Vaccines will NEVER stop or Kill off Covid.Even with 100% world wide vaccination.
Vaccinated people are spreading Covid faster than non.Bet CNN don't tell you that tho..........lol

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-19-2021 06:12 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by 4play
WRONG!!
99.7 vs 99.6% is mute

Also I know more that got covid that are vaccinated,that didn't.

Vaccination will NEVER kill Covid.It's here to stay,like the Flu



Oh my goodness, what in the world does that even mean? And where do you get your #'s? Do you make them up? "I know more"? Now that sounds like a real scientific response.


Posted by 4play on 08-19-2021 06:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Oh my goodness, what in the world does that even mean? And where do you get your #'s? Do you make them up? "I know more"? Now that sounds like a real scientific response.


Ok,I'll slow it down for you Richard
I'd say around 70% +/- people I know that are vaccinated have still got Covid this year alone.Some for the 2nd even after being vaccinated

And now some Non left Doctors are saying vaccinated people are spreaders.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-19-2021 06:54 PM:

"I'd say"... Oh my goodness... I'd say nobody that I know that has been vaccinated has caught Covid.


Posted by Redneck Mafia on 08-19-2021 06:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Oh my goodness, what in the world does that even mean? And where do you get your #'s? Do you make them up? "I know more"? Now that sounds like a real scientific response.

Look up countries with extremely high vaccination, some as high as 90% and guess what it is still going like wildfire. The vaccine protection is waning quickly and in all to many cases not working at all. Like it or not we are all in the same boat vaccinated or not we are all suspectable to this virus.
The government will still not consider wide spread use of prophylactic that are working. IVOMEC!

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-19-2021 07:09 PM:

Look at the real percentages of people with breakthrough Covid cases that are being hospitalized. Don't look at the percentages that some on here are making up.

Are you saying that you think that the government should mandate ivomec usage? "The Government" didn't look into or develop or study and test the vaccine. Phizer, Moderna and Johnson/Johnson did. If someone tested/studied Ivomec usage; found it to be effective and then got FDA approval; then I am sure that the government would make sure that it was available to everyone.


Posted by benderb4 on 08-19-2021 07:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
"I'd say"... Oh my goodness... I'd say nobody that I know that has been vaccinated has caught Covid.


So its not happening ???

NEWS FLASH IT IS !!!

You just can't admit the jabs are not going to keep you from dying from COVID.

I can site many more to prove it.

https://www.ibtimes.com/7-fully-vac...2-weeks-3275594

7 Fully Vaccinated People Die Of COVID-19 In Florida Within 2 Weeks

At least seven people in Florida died of COVID-19 over the past two weeks despite being fully vaccinated against the virus. These vaccinated people died after developing coronavirus-related complications, including pneumonia and stroke.

“They were all fully vaccinated, which was disturbing..


Breakthrough COVID cases: 169 fully vaccinated dead, 644 hospitalized in Illinois

https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/b...zed-in-illinois


Data: Fully Vaccinated Account for 43% of Deaths From 92k Total Delta Covid Cases in UK, 64% of All Dead Got At least a Dose

12 Fully Vaccinated Texans Die Of COVID-19


https://www.ibtimes.com/12-fully-va...ovid-19-3274833

VACCINE FAIL: 64% of Israel’s COVID-19 patients in serious condition are fully vaccinated

https://www.vaccinedeaths.com/2021-...vaccinated.html

Wednesday, Aug. 11, reported that 694 people were being treated in hospitals because of coronavirus (COVID-19) – including 400 patients in serious condition.

Among those in serious condition, 64 percent were fully vaccinated while 32 percent were not. This means that there were twice as many fully vaccinated people in serious condition because of the disease compared to those who’re not vaccinated.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-19-2021 07:59 PM:

There you go with your made up numbers again.
Of course I am not saying that being fully vaccinated will keep 100% of people from dying. Everyone has to die at some point. It wont protect you from having a heart attack or stroke or catching pneumonia. Especially if you are above 80 years old or have diabetes or are morbidly obese. Some people are going to die no matter what they do. Even a mild case of Covid will kill an immunocomprimsed person.

Now compare the percentages of fully vaccinated people being hospitalized or dying compared to the not fully vaccinated. You are just cherry picking numbers from antivaxers.


Posted by benderb4 on 08-19-2021 08:05 PM:

Higher Death, Hospitalization Rates Among Vaccinated Individuals: UK COVID-19 Data

The UK has a better tracking reporting system then our own CDC

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/07...cinated-uk.html


The death rate for fully vaccinated individuals was 0.636 percent, which was 6.6 times higher than the unvaccinated death rate of 0.0957 percent. 26 deaths were reported among the fully vaccinated individuals, compared to 34 deaths in the unvaccinated. The death rates among fully vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals were both below one percent.

Fully vaccinated individuals were also found to be more prone to hospitalization than their unvaccinated counterparts.

Out of the 4,087 fully vaccinated people, 2.05 percent (84 people) ended up in a hospital.

Among the 35,521 unvaccinated people, only 1.48 percent (527 people) were hospitalized.

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Posted by benderb4 on 08-19-2021 08:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
There you go with your made up numbers again.
Of course I am not saying that being fully vaccinated will keep 100% of people from dying. Everyone has to die at some point. It wont protect you from having a heart attack or stroke or catching pneumonia. Especially if you are above 80 years old or have diabetes or are morbidly obese. Some people are going to die no matter what they do. Even a mild case of Covid will kill an immunocomprimsed person.

Now compare the percentages of fully vaccinated people being hospitalized or dying compared to the not fully vaccinated. You are just cherry picking numbers from antivaxers.



HEY JACK LOOK AT THE LINKS before you put your mouth in gear!

You asked for proof of deaths .I gave them to you then you cry for percenages .. WHICH I DID ALREADY!!

You are in denial of the facts ,,,You need to keep your mask on..Like the unjabbed and can STILL DIE... CAN STILL BE INFECTED


HERE ARE HARD FACT REAL LIFE PERCENTAGES

FOR THE SECOND TIME BEAUSE YOU CAN'T READ BEFORE PUTTING YOUR MOUTH IN GEAR

VACCINE FAIL: 64% of Israel’s COVID-19 patients in serious condition are fully vaccinated

Fully vaccinated individuals were also found to be more prone to hospitalization than their unvaccinated counterparts.

Out of the 4,087 fully vaccinated people, 2.05 percent (84 people) ended up in a hospital.

Among the 35,521 unvaccinated people, only 1.48 percent (527 people) were hospitalized.

And honestly if you are one of the 7 in Florida ,the 169 in Illinois or the few in Texas that died after getting fully Vaxxed..
PERCENTAGES DON"T MATTER ANY MORE ... YOU ARE JUST AS DEAD...

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-19-2021 08:58 PM:

Israel??? Oh my goodness...

Al right anti-vaxers, where would America be today if not a soul in America had gotten vaccinated? Anyone want to venture a guess?


Posted by 4play on 08-19-2021 09:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Israel??? Oh my goodness...

Al right anti-vaxers, where would America be today if not a soul in America had gotten vaccinated? Anyone want to venture a guess?



Lol, same place we are right now.
Still can't grasp Vaccine{s} are NOT ever gonna stop,kill,etc. Covid
since it originated from an animal.

Listen to a real expert.not a has been only in it for the $$$ Fauci

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-19-2021 09:11 PM:

You can't grasp that vaccines don't kill or treat an illness? They only slow or stop the spread of an illness. That isn't hard to grasp at all. I thought that everyone knew that. Surely no one thinks that they can wait until they get Covid and then get vaccinated and it will cure them. No vaccine expert would tell anyone that a vaccine will kill a virus. A vaccine stimulates your body to produce antibodies. Your bodies antibodies will attempt to fight or kill the virus if you are exposed. Now everyone's body is not as capable at making these antibodies or strong enough to use them to fight the virus. Hence some still catch Covid. Of course, these people with weaker bodies would have an even harder time fighting the virus if they had not been vaccinated and developed antibodies. Now then, can you grasp that?


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