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Posted by tylerman on 08-17-2016 09:53 PM:

Just another day...and night or 2

Tim trones pup Baby Al and a Desperado pup

Duell Murphys King

Chris Horners Mr Howl

Marlin Martins Cruiser pup Buckaroo and a Desperado pup Lil B

Rex Griffiths Big Jim Pup Andy and Wade Kuhns Daisy

Ray Waltzs Sandy

Lil B and Buckaroo

Lucas Sheltons Rip pup Gerdy and Mr Howl

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Newby...ntch 3D x Ntch rockytop neon red Cayenne

Posted by tylerman on 08-23-2016 05:28 PM:

You see who is still hunting..its the winners and those making winners...the rest have excuses.

Day and night till they get it right

Limp -John Delcamp
Abe-Loren Miller

Marlin Martins Buckaroo
Marlin Mast Jenny

Chris Horners Mr Howl
Lucas Sheltons Gerdy

Posted by tylerman on 09-01-2016 03:18 PM:

Day and night..till they get it right..who is hunting..and who is talking..?

You cant keep your promises to men on agreements made sittin in the chair..and you cant improve a dog or a line by doing what simple minds say dont work...if a mans lost ability to reason..you aint gonna help him...like givin medicine to the dead..you know who you are.

Looks like the cage trained Dr Feelgood is still winning big..wasnt it said that would never happen..man..they gotta be cringen and squirmin....cause it just keeps proving em wrong...not once or twice..month after month over and over.... I told you these men lie..I told you they will say what ever to try to deny and do anything..anything to try to make themselves look better..and they aint starting your dog..or helping anyone with anything that dont benifit them.Truth has hurt them..And lies has proven that they cant be trusted. Now you know who has been telling the truth and the real motives behind the lies.

Here is Greg Magels Hank

Here is a pup outa Ntch Cayenne x ntch Cash Money and Jim Gearigs walker Clutch

here is Rex Griffiths Andy

Then cut Andy and Randy Verihoffs Crazy

Marlin Martins Buckaroo and Marlin Mast Jenny

Posted by tylerman on 09-11-2016 10:52 PM:

Congrats to Matt Klooster and Tank making ntch.....another cage trained phenomenon...it just keeps happening month after month after month...Lil league player like me and the big league talkers can't keep up ...not even getting on base much..gotta cling to the players they had lil to nothing to do with...we aint near done....not by a long shot...

No quarter flip wins...no buddy hunt wins...ect ect..and no excuses.

Some end with being breeders and cheerleaders...and claiming any line as theirs and any winner as theirs...how diluted..how little do you have to do and how many many generations back do you get to claim.Seems weak and pathetic. Good luck with that.

Posted by tylerman on 09-15-2016 02:22 PM:

After 30 or 40 phone calls, pm and text of people laughing and saying they are watching you and I need to dbl up on work pics and winners cause its killen em...here we go...lol We aint gonna stop and I hunt the good ones cause it makes ya look good faster and life is too short to go through that many dogs to get so little results of some types.

What did we do yesterday..while others complained..we trained

Day and night till they get it right

game of hidey go seek no see em

Hill Jack-ntch Cayenne x ntch Money
Nightcrawler-grntch wades big red x snows ashlie
Limp-grntch crow x daisy

Bad Intentions-grntch cloud x dew
Copper
Cool Cal

Hank
Skank-grntch busko x grntch pebble

Posted by tylerman on 09-20-2016 08:41 PM:

Congrats to the cream rising and moving on to the next round on the way to the world hunt!!!It takes more than talk and claiming it...you have to work be prepared and make the effort..no amount of excuses or crying or demanding anything is going to make you or your dog better.Good luck to all those advancing.

if you feed them...and dont killem all...they will come and keep coming..if you are not the steward of the land and being your own gamekeeper..dont complain when there is nothing left.

Hank... Wimp

Abe and B2

Andy and Skank

Posted by tylerman on 09-27-2016 04:20 PM:

you just work harder...with better bred dogs..and it comes..but it sure makes some cry about it.We aint done...and we aint going away..people booking way ahead...you do what you say and the good ones make you look good.Some just dont get it and continue with their way and call it greatness....justify it if you want but progress dont usually come with same o to same o.We are blessed to have so many people to call friends and trust us with some very very nice young dogs.

There is great things going on in the coonhound ..talk dont mean much in the end and it shows.

anybody eat these ?

Andy
Hank

Copper
Stihl

Posted by tylerman on 10-04-2016 07:20 PM:

Busy...day and night

Posted by tylerman on 10-06-2016 01:03 AM:

Work...it takes steady work..creating opportunity for dogs to get a chance to enhance traits that should be bred in.

Posted by tylerman on 10-12-2016 12:53 AM:

Posted by tylerman on 10-18-2016 11:30 PM:

Now Greg Nagel come over from Iowa for a lil hunt with his black dog Hank

He made 3 trees..no cage coon..no feeders..all wild..stayed and hammered down..Greg said he went home to Iowa and treed him a real coon there too..

lil day work on some newbys

Posted by tylerman on 11-02-2016 07:34 PM:

another dog that left here not long ago made ntch...over and over...bring me a good one...

We have always called ourselves dog starters..getting pups going..running and treeing with others..then came with some thinking every dog leaves capable or treeing their own...and a few down talkers telling storys that have no ideaa about much let alone whats happening round here..and they kinda got quiet after all the dogs leaving here winning that they cannot deny or they look worse than they made themselves already..called them selves big leauge..it got some laughs..and no one else seemed to call them that..remember..if you the only one calling your self great..you probably are not.you are likely a lil delusional...we have never made that claim that every dog leaves here great or ready to win hunts...we make the effort for every dog to do so..but its not reality..no matter who tells you or what kind of expectations you have. A great many dogs do leave here when they got the maturaty, the genetics and given the opportunity to do great.Some have left here and quickly won some hunts...but that is not a normal thing for every pup.So we will let the ones who are willing to tell untruths to the uneducated crowd of believers and followers...but will will try hard and let the proof come.

But you keep working and the good ones,,and the really good ones..make you look good.

and there is more...cause ya gotta keep working to gain and see progress in the grey matter between them dogs ears....

if only some people could learn...some aint much use..some cant be trusted,,some talk greatness but fall short..some expect way more than they ever do...

Posted by tylerman on 11-06-2016 06:01 PM:

Just got off the phone..another dog that was here not long ago made ntch...

We still doing the work...

Cool Cal

and Tilly

Bad Intentions and Skank

and Lotto live action with Jack Bingham

Posted by tylerman on 11-12-2016 01:36 AM:

we try to stay after it it...cause if you do nothing..nothing gets done...

Nightcrawler
Katana

Posted by tylerman on 11-16-2016 10:05 PM:

Day and night till they get it right

Well lets start part I with day work

Kenneth Cunninghams Iris and Rowdy

then Steve Holts Jake

Posted by tylerman on 11-16-2016 10:16 PM:

Part II

Duce Kory Zumwaltz
Rank Skank

Clutch Jim Gearing
B2

Bad Intentions-Brian Jennewein

Posted by tylerman on 11-16-2016 10:21 PM:

and...part III

Andy Rex Griffith
Bad Intentions

Posted by tylerman on 11-22-2016 04:22 PM:

Still working...cause the right dogs with the right work in reps..letting the dog tell you..cause you aint gonna tell a dog nothing..like some men..they wont ever understand..it takes a good bred dog..the right dog..will be way easier to get to the next level.

next

Posted by tylerman on 11-26-2016 04:31 PM:

Yep..we still working...dogs dont lay long here much cause they dont learn in the kennel or talking about it.Time tells everyone the truth.

We had some color splash in last nights hunts

Blue english of Kody and Kory Zumwalt

This is a walker named Clutch

Pretty sure where he went

Kenneth Cunninghams blue dogs Rowdy and Iris working at dark now

Posted by tylerman on 12-02-2016 02:08 PM:

Last night....we hunted....we just start em and the good ones..bred right..will do it if given the opportunity.Why do some dogs make it and some dont? It has to be bred in em...not promised in em..not someones thoughts in em.Dogs aint great if your the only one who thinks so. Not paper bred. Those holes always show in the pups.

Andy and Bad Intentions

Duce

Skank and Jake

Rowdy and Iris

Posted by tylerman on 12-08-2016 04:04 PM:

Steve Holt text me says Cool cal is coming on with the wild coons
Rick Owens says Sadie is treeing coons in the wild
Keith Bowling is treeing coons with Tody...
Ron Erickson says Pete just went home and treed him a coon in the wild..and Bullet is doing it well..
and Ive had other calls and text Ill try to get to later...but you get the point...how many dogs have to leave here and tree on thier own..how many a month or a yr have to title....those waiting on you and trying to make you fail are falling behind because they forgot the work is outside..not setting on your butt...probably been and be more dogs do well leaving here than most any man will ever do in his life let alone any given month or yr...it takes a team..and it takes a well bred dog.Without men breeding GOOD dogs and putting their trust in me..there would be know me...why I wont..will not be a me me me like some...its about the dogs and the men behind em..all the stats in the world dont mean nothing without a GOOD dog..anyone can tell you how..or tell you its great..anyway..back to work..go Dave go

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Posted by tylerman on 01-02-2017 05:22 PM:

Couple I may sell here..ukc performance paid and pkc superstake paid ..comp homes please

Time Trones pup Baby Al outa grntch Alice x grntch turbo-left
and Pigeon outa Rex Griffiths grntch big red jim-right

Mad Marge outa grntch red rocker
Tilly outa grntch busko

Ntch Desperado daughter Lil Bee

Steve Holts Big Jake with the meat

Posted by tylerman on 01-04-2017 07:23 PM:

Part I..we hunt em...

Katana
Wimp

Steve Holts Big Jake

Posted by tylerman on 01-17-2017 04:53 PM:

All the talk of reproducers....all the talk of what throws pups with traits...all ya gotta do is see for yourself..I know what I see in front of me night after night....and it aint always..matter fact seldom like what others say about what their dogs are throwing..but there are people that tell ya the truth..not many,but there are people if they say it to you its a very high probability..others over sell and time proves it but you loose time on hyped up and many times straight up lies..cause they either know the real truth or dont know as much as they say about a dog cause they always fall short and are racing for the next great croos or maybe just the great sale...illusions in their mind or to put that illusion in yours..dreams are easy to sale and steal away.

we still hunting..make no mistake and the results still coming and good news still pouring in. get a good bred one and you wont have to work so hard..make excuses and keep being dissapointed in dogs that always fall short.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL FLAT OUT CHEAT AND LIE AND TELL YOU WHATEVER THEY CAN TO TRY TO IMPROVE A FALSE IMAGE..remember what they said...remember what they did...cause past predicts future.

Here is Limp..remember him here not long ago?..John Delcamp sent him down..outa Billy Starks Crow and Leonard Simpsons Daisy..would ya look at that...

This is a desperado x bonnie female I call lil Bee..she has come on nice after laying for a long time unstarted..she is littermate to the one I started I called Paw Paw but was later sold and called dewy with 2 1st place wins

Dave Lawsons nice female outa his Reba we also started

Steve Holts Big Jake

Tim Trones female Baby Al outaTurbo x Alice
Neon Red Pigeon outa Big Jim and a steve o x chili female
Dave Lawsons Annie

Posted by tylerman on 01-20-2017 03:14 PM:

Here is one we started for Greg Greer thats going to start hitting the hunts..Joe

Rain, ya we could could complain about that.....fog, ya we could complain about that...Mud, ya that too..creeks were high,..and Greg took us to some ruff country but did in fact guide us to some coon and Joe showed us some good dog work.Every reason to lay out and not hunt..but we went and made a few drops. And truly had a good time..or at least I did.

Joe drove this track 650 or so and I mean smoked it...had the meat

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