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Posted by Kevin Jackson on 03-24-2011 06:22 AM:

Mike, I'll definately think about it. For now I'm going to hunt her and try to put a Nt.Ch. title in front of her name and maybe more. I put her in her first hunt in Oregon a few weeks ago. We had a dead cast, hopefully the next hunt I put her in goes a little better. I'd sure like to see Haze in the woods. How are his pups turning out? I know what you mean about getting nice females under good young dogs. They can't prove themselves without someone giving them a chance. My male is a nice dog and throwing nice pups in the couple litters he has sired but I couldn't pay someone to breed to him. Everyone says it's the location but who knows. If a guy wants something he gets it. I'm not scared to spend some money and buy a pup across the country if it's something I want. We have some pretty tough hunting out here and it takes a good dog to consistantly catch game. Not running down any man or dogs but I'd like to see all these high powered dogs that are advertised come out here in the dead of winter and have to trail a day old bobcat track in the rock and deadfall without deep snow in the cold for miles and then be able to locate it and stayed treed all day until the hunter gets there. The real top dogs would do just fine but a lot of the advertised dogs wouldn't live up to the hype. A border collie can tree a lot of coons in the right conditions but I like a hound that can do it when the conditions aren't right. I'll likely be at American Days and if you're going to be there I'd like to see Haze and possibly drop him and see what he's all about. Take care - Kevin

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Posted by dlinkous on 03-24-2011 01:08 PM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pastor Mike
[B]Well......Haze come through his surgery just fine. Now about two weeks of healing and about 3-4 days of staying in the basement to keep him out of trouble and not to tear his stitches. I guess all is well.

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so you finally got the growth at the end of his chain removed...oh wait a minute that was Buck, sorry couldn't resist

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-24-2011 02:44 PM:

Ribeyes??? Dr. Laster, I cut myself last night while out hunting. Can I come up and stay in your basement for a couple of days until I recuperate? Pastor Mike goes up those mountains like a surefooted mule. Being long legged does not help when you start going up. Having short legs just means that you have a lower gear and everyone knows that you downshift before you start going up an incline. Kevin, PM jguilliams and ask him about how those Haze pups are doing.

Posted by Kevin Jackson on 03-24-2011 03:21 PM:

Richard, I'll have to do that. I read this whole thread and it sounds like there are a few getting it done. Mark has one at his house and a guy I sold a pup to in Canada had one for a little while. Those are the only two that I know anything about. Haze sure is bred nice.

Posted by wbond on 03-24-2011 06:08 PM:

On the lighter note........these short legs can really get going up a mountain if they need to......at least faster than buck... [/B][/QUOTE]

FASTER than Buck you have got to be kidden right
What time does Haze get is steak I will come over and help him out

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Posted by Pastor Mike on 03-24-2011 07:26 PM:

I won't be at American Days.....never get to go because I always will have kids from our youth ministry graduating the same weekend. I have two graduations on June 3rd this year, one at 5pm and the other starts at 8pm. I have walked with many of them through more crap than you could imagine so the last thing I would do is miss them walking the stage for graduation.

Haze is just a crap eater Kevin who went from registered to Grand in about 18 or so hunts. Haze wouldn't do good on bobcats.....he just won't run them but I want mine just running coon...., but he's not a high profile stud either.....just a dog who trees coon on a consistent basis. He hunts medium......about 800 yards out is usually the furthest....unless on a track. And that is plenty far enough around here. He's straight......nothing else to add to that. A 3rd or 4th strike dog but typically a first or second tree dog. Likes a running track, not so much a very cold track. Will split tree and will hold pressure.......but normally splits when hunted with strange dogs. Nice mouth, but not overpowering.....has produced mouths alot better than his own. Bawl on track, chop on tree with an occasional bawl if track was colder.

We had a high profile stud.....well....he's popular now anyway and rightfully so.....come to Virginia one time to hunt with us. I know this dog was a good dog because I had talked to a previous owner about him. I never saw him under a coon while I hunted with him. Saw him under 2 slicks and watched him run up and down the road while my two dogs cold trailed and ended up on the mountain at over 900 yards treed on a den. It happens. All dogs get accustomed to where they are hunted....at least in my opinion and sometimes it's tough on them when everything changes so I won't judge them completely on one night....people who do that are idiots...or they believe their own press....plain and simple. If I was to say who that stud was....I would be hated by a BUNCH of people on here...

As far as Haze pups......there have been good ones.....i'm sure bad ones......mediocre ones and then some that were never given a chance.....of course about 75% of them are under 15 months of age so it's hard to judge them just yet. Frog is doing nicely and has been treeing coons by herself for quite some time now.....in some pretty rough conditions for around here. We also lost a real nice one that had a 2nd on her and she was just a pup when she got the win. There will be more good ones begin to pop up within the next year or so. I really don't care about when a pup starts.....you'll notice how there are so many pups who start at 3-6 months of age.....I don't really care about that.....I care about how they finish. I like seeing them start that young....but I don't get into much of a hurry.

I haven't hunted haze since last september and now it will be at least 3 weeks before I can put him out there because of where his stitches are. Maybe at some point you'll be able to see him go. He's just 5 so he's still young yet.

Richard......you can come up....just make sure you are not in heat if you are going to stay with Haze...

You can come over to Wendell.......Haze won't mind sharing.

Linkous.......the growth is gone....

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Posted by Kevin Jackson on 03-25-2011 07:58 AM:

Ha, that's funny. Crap eater, sounds about like mine. I have no doubt Haze is a nice dog and bred up too. Out here I need something that will run cats and has a decent nose. Without that the winters would be pretty boring. I used to think Billy was hot nosed because he doesn't open much until the track is pretty warm. I found out he has a pretty decent nose the last couple years running him by himself on some tougher lion and bobcat tracks. He runs them good and catches them too. You're right about judging a dog by one night in the woods, pretty much impossible. The wonder dog one night might not tree another coon in ten more nights and the dog that didn't impress might have had a bad night and tree a truckload of coon in ten more nights. Wouldn't it be great if they ever invented a dog that every pup he threw turned out? Won't ever happen. I love pups that start early and so far have been blessed with them, Sage included. A lot of how a pup starts is how they are raised and how they are introduced to their enviorment and the desired game. A lot of how they finish is subject to the same variables. Thank you for describing Haze to me, I appreciate that. He sounds like a nice hound and I hope someday to see him tree some coons. Take care - Kevin

Posted by dlinkous on 03-25-2011 01:36 PM:

Pastor Mike

Wendell has two that came in heat this week...you know who should be next...get well Haze another may be coming to see you

David

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-25-2011 02:23 PM:

David, you mean that you are going to breed Ol'Blue to Haze?

Posted by dlinkous on 03-25-2011 02:32 PM:

Richard

LOL...if that happens we better be figuring out what those two males dogs are up to

Rambler is two ugly for Haze anyway, and you know which dog Bond has in the kennel

David

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-25-2011 02:41 PM:

Oh my goodness!!! He is going to breed Samantha to Haze???

Posted by dlinkous on 03-25-2011 02:44 PM:

works for me but I bet the two main character's of that play wont let it happen

Posted by wbond on 03-25-2011 03:51 PM:

hmmmm I wonder if we would get any all red ones than we could put some sackett, blood finley river, banjo and house stuff in them red dogs

Posted by Pastor Mike on 03-25-2011 11:35 PM:

Linkous.....I would say you are right......it won't be long til the other is in heat.......Haze will be fine by then

Haze likes being a stud......but as far as rambler......Haze doesn't swing that way......thank goodness

Now when it comes to samantha........I'm sure Haze wouldn't mind what color she is. some of that walker stuff might not be a bad thing.

Posted by dlinkous on 03-26-2011 01:12 AM:

Richard

I may have been wrong those two may have some tri colored red dogs for sale in about four months. You want on the list for a pup?

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-26-2011 03:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dlinkous
may have some tri colored red dogs

I may already have one of those out in my back yard somewhere. I am not sure, I haven't looked lately.

Posted by jgagne57 on 03-26-2011 05:56 PM:

Sectional in Michigan ?

Would anybody know the date for the redbone sectional in Michigan, beginning of april ? If you could post it , that would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Posted by Donnie Frazier on 03-29-2011 07:54 AM:

SOGGY BOTTOM T-TOP HAZE X BINGS TESS

Mike it looks like Ole (((((DUAL GRAND BINGS TESS))))) is starting to swell in the belly

Maybe it won't be long and we will be making a mark with some young blood in the hunts.

(((((BING'S TESS))))) one of the best RED DOGS to ever tree a coon is reproducing. These pups I have here out Psycho x Tess have all the coondog smarts and natural ability you could hope for in a pup.

I know (((((HAZE))))) is going to do his part. He is a proven winner and reproducer. Lots of powerful RED DOGS on both sides. Should be some dandy's Will keep you posted.

Mike thanks for all your help in making this cross become a reality. Also thanks to my Pal, Snapper Harris for making a road trip when it counted most Take care and keep'em RED!

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Posted by wbond on 03-29-2011 04:31 PM:

The FROGGG !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-29-2011 04:36 PM:

Why do all of y'all's dogs look the same on a tree? Why do their ears flop around like that? I think that you only have one dog and you keep giving it different names! Donnie, do you see what you are getting yourself into?

Posted by OUTLAW REDBONE on 03-29-2011 08:24 PM:

Richard

You got us figured out...lol.

The Frog Dawg and Willow is looking good guy's.

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Posted by Pastor Mike on 03-29-2011 08:50 PM:

Tess

That's good news Donnie. I hope all continues to go well with her. I'll be looking forward to seeing those pups and maybe even have one here. Hopefully she will have a good litter. It should be a good mix of blood.

Now Richard.....you know we wouldn't do that. All of our dogs are photogenic....

John....I don't know the dates of the sectional in michigan. If I find out I will post it for you.

Posted by jgagne57 on 03-30-2011 01:13 AM:

Pastor Mike, I got the info on coonhound bloodline's web page. redbone sectional in Romulus Mi. on april 2nd and amer. redbone assoc. on april 8th in Lapeer Mi.

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Posted by Pastor Mike on 03-30-2011 06:23 PM:

The Frog Dawg!!!

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Originally posted by wbond

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-30-2011 06:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Pastor Mike

Now I see. I found this picture back a month ago. I guess that y'all have to have those color coded collars so that you can tell which dog is yours at the end of the night. I wonder who is type stamping these dogs? Can anyone tell me who these 3 dogs are?

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