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Posted by tylerman on 04-16-2018 03:07 PM:

There are those that want to sell you the answers...they ain't told the truth in the past...its been proven...proof doesnt change if it's the truth...the burden of truth is never on the man telling it....do you think they will tell you the truth now ? ..do you think they know what they are talking about now?

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Posted by tylerman on 05-08-2018 09:00 PM:

Well we gonna leave saving the world to those who sell illusions on it....but can't get it done...

Talking don't make dogs...and you can't reach a closed mind that's only concerned with themselves...but work..correct reps in the right progression of better bred dogs...that proves what works..month after month yr after yr....day and night till they get it right cause even those that claim you just walkem to the woods cause it's natural can't seem to do it very often.

Go Dave go....work work work

Futz of John and Zach Maxeys

Hvy pepper female

Octane of Paul Bennett...Alan holding
Raven of Shane Smith's

Tizzy..Derek bridge...Alan holding...

More to come

Posted by tylerman on 06-10-2018 11:28 PM:

They say character is built on loss..,not at the win...seems to be true..again

Others seem to continue to dwell on the past repeatedly...futures in front of you if your smart enough to see it..if not..You live in the past.

It's those with that sustained thinking..that continue in the past,blaming someone or anything but not changing the practice of their own doings.

We been blessed with another good month of dogs...another red one titled..,another red one gets 1st place and a couple off colored dogs win...one thing for sure...good one do well and make us look good...month after month yr after yr watching winners go on and proving over and over who tells the truth and who lives in a illusion.day and night we work to give opportunities to the good ones to do what the traits allow. Get a better bred dog so you don't have to have excuses..blame others for your short comings and insucurities...takes more than talk.

Futz of Zach Maxeys

Raven of Shane Smith's

Whammo

Octane of Paul Bennett..Alan holding

Hiker of Doug Jackson's

Jake appell..curly

Posted by tylerman on 06-12-2018 04:32 PM:

Here we go again....night after night..work work work...go Dave go

Tizzy

Easy..brad hile. Chad McCoin

Posted by tylerman on 06-15-2018 07:18 PM:

Signs of a toxic narsassit

They create separation blame it on others.

They criticize anyone who won't let them win or proves them wrong

They are jealous of anyone who they feel a threat

They disappoint the majority with a knowittall attitude

They will argue about almost anything and wake up looking for that opportunity.

Everything is dramatic

They are always the victim

They are self centered and only need you when they can gain...after that they become very hard to contact. People are only pawns to them.

They will never change because the believe everything they do is best. They can't be fixed mentally.

Now let's move on to a little night time work...we love to see so many dogs come here green and because of good quality breeding go on to become good ones...the good ones make us look good but it takes reps of real work

Doug Jackson's hiker

Hiker and beara

Tilley

Tilley and shoes

Posted by tylerman on 09-05-2018 05:30 PM:

Look how easy it is to borrow someone else's work and claim it...easy

Takes a lil effort but making em in numbers from green to treeing on their own....not taking 1 a yr...not started and running with em..but several green ones a month..a month...month after month..yr after yr without having to beg for em. to running and treeing with others and a great many own their own...don't let those who have no idea...don't know jack...confuse you with twisted fact and illusions. This is reallity. The good ones make us all look good and natural is said way more than it is...enhance traits...don't try to train it.

little dark work

Posted by tylerman on 09-27-2018 11:17 PM:

The trash talkers ain't never started a dog that got this far did they...another cage trained phenomenon...the good bred dogs make us all look good...get a good one

Well..congrats to Ron cumberland..earl everette..Shane hutcheson with i think a 6th place win at ukc world

Walker overload

Kevin rowe ..sugar

Kevin rowe..Dixie

James bodkin...sky..flirt

Posted by tylerman on 10-03-2018 04:15 PM:

Everyone and anyone can tell you they hunt the hardest,,are the best...know the most...they may tell you they will feed..water..and hunt em..some don't all tell the truth..the whole truth. We don't beg for dogs never have...we have a waiting list...we start em. The good ones make us look good.we give em opportunity.you have to get em outa the kennel for that chance.

James bodkin...sky

Del Hudson..bear a

Brent peel

James B odkin..flirt

Keith bowling...John delcamp

Dan

Posted by tylerman on 10-22-2018 04:20 PM:

We been lucky to have some good ones here..they make us look good...top u kc world placements...top pkc state races....and you won't see us begging for dogs or posting we have openings...You will need to call ahead so we can work you in...most times way ahead. Some people's greatest achievements..the pinnacle of their dog career will be to be on a list with common dogs....anyway possible. To feel like a sorta big fish in a tiny pond...don't get caught in the illusions or falseness...it won't last..never has. You shouldn't have to work that hard to achieve shortcomings.

It takes work..reps of successful lessons gradually improving...we work on tree here..love a track dog but if they won't tree and stay...we both need a new prospect

Bear a
Tank

Trooper
Ghost

Trooper

Ghost

Dan

Wired

Jack

Posted by tylerman on 10-29-2018 03:54 PM:

There's still a few haters that stalk you..try to control your freedom of speech...DO NOT want you telling the truth cause it dont benifit them..and they get to looking a fool everytime the proof rises..,

The methods work...several dogs a month and month after month of reports of dogs getting titled....it takes more than talk...more than trying to talk us down...hush us up...but..it also takes better dogs than some are willing to pack...trying to make sub par dogs look good has to get tiring. Look at the last 10 yrs of dogs in the top 20..in u kc world and other registry....truth is what it is. There are lines that look good on paper...but never ever get there...ever.

Here is another cage trained phenomenon....we start em..run em off feeders..try em alone,,then to the wild some...then it's time to go home get hunted hard..singled out...then onto the hunts...the good ones show out and make us look good..always been that way...we thank the men who believe in us..month after month.

We ain't done...and truth don't go away

Posted by tylerman on 10-31-2018 01:54 AM:

Still working...not 1 dog....it's still fun to start a few every month..and until it ain't or I can't anymore I'll be at it just about every day...bring me the good ones...let the others talk big...we work big..there is a big difference.

Posted by tylerman on 11-09-2018 03:17 PM:

Truth won't hurtcha unless you got something to hide...but some believe different...some twist facts...some try to stifle the man telling truth.Cause they can't build their ego on it....its a weakness. But it's all they got. Sad but some won't ever be more.

We start dogs..love em when the come raising heck with a coon..shows us they
Are ready. That's the ones seem to do the best in the short time we have with em. Some think you gonna make a top hound from a green pup in 30 trips...not likely...but we almost always see improvement. Had some dandy here through the yrs..a well bred dog makes it look easy when it's given the right reps of work. A common bred dog is real hard to get greatness from...although some still sell common as great..it's the ego..not a betterment of dogs or the would truly be better and be in big hunts winning...not another..almost there..just a few more yrs..just a few more crosses. Do your research.dont believe just any salesman

Posted by tylerman on 11-12-2018 04:32 PM:

Guess who still working...just like before kill season only less bugs....

Some talk..some do the work...some tell ya..others are really doing it

Not everyone tells the whole truth...if you don't know the man for sure...whether your buying a pup or dog..or getting one hunted...you better find one you sure enough can trust..cause the whole truth is hard to come by. And a man's word don't mean much to some.

Feed,, water,,,shovel,,,check bedding...hunt dogs..daily...

Don't get a lot of company at night for the fair share of abuse but an old friend stopped by for part of the night

Del Hudson's beara...

Beara...
Crazy...Brent peel

Carl coleman...dan..Sadie

Katana

Storm..nic Guevara

Posted by tylerman on 11-15-2018 02:13 PM:

Still after it...

Just be clear..we don't have a pen...where dogs run unsupervised..coon and dogs eat outa same feeders...or a high fence full of coon...we run feeders some in all wild hunting..we do have some caught coon to create tracks when some nights none seem available because we like to give every dog an opportunity at a goid track and a tree every night...we work on tree...short tracks and reps of tree with a coon. Dogs learn in reps. Reps of success. And if they can't tree an easy one and stay..they may never get better. But you have to get off your butt and do the day work..then get into the timber at night..its no magic.

Shane Smith

Carl Coleman

Duell Murphy

Will casselbury

Posted by tylerman on 11-16-2018 03:02 PM:

Lil snow on the ground...wind getting stronger as the night went on

Trooper

Jack

Dan

Crazy

Garmin and I both bout outa juice

Posted by tylerman on 11-22-2018 03:47 PM:

Good reports on some of the dogs that have went home...we still hunting..working... we can help you with a good one...the good bred ones make us all look good. Believe the truths...not those with versions of it....some only have illusions and that's all they have to sell

Shane Smith's OG...outa Chad mccoins dog I belibelieve

Duell murphy...wired

Posted by tylerman on 11-29-2018 03:50 PM:

New ones in..we making friends and already to move to dark hunting....

Great reports from several of last month's dogs...month after month..yr after yr...but we still have a very simple minded few that don't like us cause we won't bring their dogs here...low percentage dogs are worth any of our time..yours or mine...and if you get to close to the real truth and fact they gonna tell false storys..try to create false facts....do you want to work that hard to make common or less tree a coon and call it great. Most see through the smear and know the difference in real truth and real numbers....if it's about the betterment of dogs...why are some more interested in their ego....yeah....yrs later and they still paddling in a circle. Just get a better line of dog..you don't have to work so hard...or create numbers to improve your ego at real betterment of dogs expense

Here is the part the haters cringe at...but is an important part of starting a dog or testing things..in minimal use..with minimal sight of coon usage.

Posted by tylerman on 12-05-2018 11:10 PM:

Lotta talkers..bunch of internet hunters...even men who quote wick phases...but don't start dogs...they don't tell the truth. The great illusion is what they want you to see. We wont take the low production dogs and they have repeatedly trie d to sneak em in here...yet try to talk bad about our training methods...see through the smoke yet. If they can't use you they will try to destroy you but truth keeps outperforming them month after month..yr after yr. And we been booked for yrs. Why do you think that is..with mostly repeat customers. So careful who you listen to and consider the source. They ain't accomplished much their whole lives by most anyone's stanards..but sure to judge the rest of us by a higher standard than they can ever hope to reach.

We start the good ones that are bred right and the good ones make us all look good...the others that are bred weak..not so much

Jayne russo..Hartley
Ray waltz . Jipsey

Shane Smith's O.G outa Chad mccoins stock

2 nice red pups bred right coming on

Posted by tylerman on 12-10-2018 11:24 PM:

They weak ones try to silence you...your freedom of speech...the truth..it hurts them. They claimed the cage training would hurt em..they claimed hunting em like we do would make mee too dogs....never be a ntch....now yrs later the truth keeps pouring out. They can't nor will they ever produce dogs like we do month after month yr after yr...they wanted to count titled dogs till that was so high they couldn't beat it....it takes work but it's much much easier when you work with much better bred hounds....the dogs make you look good. Or you can work the numbers..make false claims...hook.. screw..cheat and be a lawyer for your dog...really though who has that kinda time when it is much easier to get a better line of dogs...they hate it bad..but we keep proving em wrong day after day..night after night..ntch after ntch

We work...in reps...and progress the dogs as they gain confidence...you have to get off your but and do it. You do what you say.

Hartely

Diamond

Otis

Wired

Jack

Posted by tylerman on 12-14-2018 10:12 PM:

Just got a call from Carl Coleman and his 2 dogs that just went back to Mississippi...he said he was very happy to see the way the dogs hunted and treed...said his grandsons couldn't guilt talking on how happy they were with the dogs now. He is gonna send some pics and vids....that is what we start dogs for. Tickles me right down to my core

Posted by tylerman on 12-18-2018 03:27 PM:

Over and over..the cage trained phenomenon keeps showing up...the methods work....the haters still cringing cause they are on the outside watching it happen without them...cause we don't need them....it just eats at em cause truth outperforms the lies...month after month..yr after yr. The proof is here so the burden is only on the man that can't tell the truth. They want you to start theirs too..they just don't want anyone to know cause for you to be right...they would be wrong...

Here is one

And yet another

A lil day work

Diamond

Jipsey almost there

Otis

Posted by tylerman on 12-20-2018 04:12 PM:

Well..just got news about another cage trained phenomenon

Katana
Storm

Boom
Stump

Boom

Diamond

Posted by tylerman on 12-31-2018 11:18 PM:

How many gotta leave and go home and tree their own coon..how many gotta win..,b4 the few that want to believe a self claimed false phrophet... fools enough to believe 1 man that don't tell truth..never has..never will...some men were born weak..and never grow out of it....truth is a fact that don't have to justify itself...

The haters can't make this happen in a lifetime of work...unless you are happy..complacient.. to sell yourself as great..,when your not rated even common

Happy New yr....we will be working dogs and making another great yr of top dogs with our methods...remember..the good ones make us all look good...

Posted by tylerman on 01-11-2019 08:20 PM:

We work hard...daily..consistently. That's why we get results and keeps the haters watching,folowing..worried over our success. They can try to deny it but they can't outperform it. And time tells truths that some try to hide. Lies never become truth and the man telling truth doenst have to justify his every move...people know truth...fools follow fools.

Day and night till they get it right....progressing as they show in lessons

Mark Netherys hammer

Shane Smith..monkey

Monkey

Gregg huffine....Smokey

Posted by tylerman on 01-15-2019 02:34 AM:

What drives you to work in the worst of weather..when many men to talk of being great trainers and want to tell you just how it is done...DO NOT START DOGS...they borrow em...

I enjoy good bred pups that challenge me to help them become a better hound, I don't enjoy overselling a common dog as great.Some men are lacking inside and need to make it about themselves..pics of themselves.,make everything about themselves because they are weak..you will seldom see pics of me...people care about dogs..and if we are truly trying to improve hounds..then why is it...some talk more about themselves than a dog...ah...cause their ain't enough dog.

Bring me the good ones and let's keep talking about dogs and making better hounds...

Leon....Patrick allen

Mark Netherys hammer

Brian Baxter bill

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