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Posted by tylerman on 06-22-2022 02:54 AM:

Hot..worse than its been..but we still working...promises kept...winners still winning. You got a pup raises heck with a coon...it's ready for us. We work on short tracks and tree while moving with progression as dog shows it's potential

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Posted by tylerman on 08-03-2022 07:29 PM:

Hot..

Brian dickey....your lil male is getting workouts

We are working on tree....coming along

Posted by tylerman on 09-19-2022 02:27 AM:

Still working daily

Go to dave collins..Camden Indiana

Or neon red kennels

You can see videos

Daily working lessons of starting g dogs and progressive repetition.

Posted by tylerman on 10-17-2022 09:47 PM:

Brian dickey went home and his dog is treeing real coon in the wilds of Michigan

Month after month

Yr after yr

The good ones make us look good

Posted by tylerman on 11-06-2022 02:15 PM:

Kill season is upon us...

Coon are abundant

Day or night pups will have more opportunities at coon daily than many dogs or men can ever do....

Real coon...real coon tracks

You want a dog wore our or ruined with shock systems go elsewhere

You want a dog kept and not fed watered or hunted...go elsewhere

You want a dog beaten...go elsewhere

You want told your dog is a world beater if it's common
.go elsewhere

You want someone who takes every dog...every dog and puts their all into it..everyone..everytime

Not just the easy ones..the greats..but every dog..work through issues and try to save everyone...

Not every dog is gonna make a top contender...but effort has to be made to know...the whole 30 days...

We have been blessed with many good men and great dogs to pass through here...honesty and hard work..doing what you say you will is the key

Anyone can take your money and say they will...

I you don't trust that man...do not take that dog to him...credentials are built on promises kept over yrs...yrs...with everydig..the good ones and the bad.

Posted by tylerman on 12-04-2022 02:33 AM:

We can't install traits..they have to be born with the Grey matter between their ears. We will enhance the traits they are born with.

Go to my Facebook page..dave collins..you will see videos weekly and you can watch dogs as the improve through progressive reps and lessons with live coon.

Bring me a pup that will raise heck with a coon..if t has the goods we will work short fun easy lessons to help it be successful and improve its confidence.

It won't sit here and get wasted. Many Many a great dog has been here.

We ain't new at this and we handle dogs dareaily with care of feeding water and dry bedding.

Dogs don't run free here to fight get bullied or end up hard to catch...they are Kenneled and handled with care. Emphasis on tree...tracking is only important if they can tree the game.

Posted by tylerman on 02-06-2023 07:30 PM:

We still working..with the effort always being to get a dog to tree on its own and with others

Day and night work...30 actual days of work

Go look at my page..dave collins..Camden Indiana

Or neon red kennels ..mad puppy pack

All your answers on videos...all the proof and references there as winner after winner fter winner goes on the win..local to state to worlds...

Posted by tylerman on 02-19-2023 11:48 PM:

2 more dogs went home and treed their own this weekend.....

Day and night till they get it right..month after month...yr after yr

Posted by tylerman on 03-14-2023 03:05 AM:

Go to Facebook ..dave collins..Camden Indiana

See vidoes..real life..day and night training..watch the progress of many dogs. Every month...month after month...not a story...real video progress...yr after yr.

It takes effort..knowledge...and Correct progression of a dog.

100s of dogs later..we still here.making winners

Posted by Joseph Nalley on 03-24-2023 06:37 PM:

Took a pup up there to Dave a few yrs back. He did a great job for me. He treated me right.

Posted by tylerman on 04-16-2023 12:39 AM:

Thanks Joe for trusting us with your dog

Jeff dile just wrote home with his dog..treeing real coon for him

Posted by tylerman on 05-17-2023 04:18 PM:

Go look at our neon red kennels page or dave collins page on Facebook

See videos and progress of dogs when they come till they leave..I prefer they come raising heck with a coon...you get you best money outa me when they do...

Many come very green..most leave running and treeing with others..a great many tree easy ones on their own

We have been starting pups for 40 yrs...for others...yes..that's a fact...we try to remain affordable but finding I'm working dog..feeding watering and shoveling kennels..making feed..filling feeders..chasing down coon..for more than 30 days.and dog haulers are often charging more for a couple days haul....nothing against the haulers we all need to make a l8ving..but our prices won't remain this low for ever.
I likely won't last forever either

We have proved our methods work..we actually do the work and care for dogs and no one can do what we do..we have also proved the truth against the liars...and most of them are gone from the scene altogether...truth always outperforms the liars

Posted by tylerman on 06-06-2023 08:53 PM:

We have had dogs come to us...after being at other facility's

And made good ones after being called culls

Some men can't do much with dogs that need a lil more effort..if it don't do it natural in 2 or 3 nights or lessons...they ain't gonna do much or put in real effort in em

No one can save em all..but talk don't do the work...

You can't just work with only the freaks or all naturals..why?..cause they ain't all freaks...

And the don't learn much following other dogs all their lives..it takes some single time and reps of good tracks to build confidence

Kitten coon are moving and the mulberry tres are plum full or ripe fruits...

You want a dog to get honest work...a full 30 trips...at a real chance at real coon..

True houndsmen are not born...like dogs..experience...makes em better...after many many many dogs..many many yrs...you learn something...

Talk is cheap

Posted by tylerman on 07-05-2023 09:35 PM:

Still the same..work work work..prove the liars wrong..month after month...where are all the neigh sayers now...gone..because liars get caught up in time...their dogs are weak as their lies

You bring us a good one..we will enhance those traits with steady work and progressive repetition that makes em learn why the traits are in em

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Originally posted by tylerman
Still in the timber with young dogs....not old dogs..or old dog pup trainers...young dogs trying to get em to tree on their own

These methods work for the good ones...the good ones bred right make us all look good.

Why do some get to were others have not and will never be....reality...yes reality. Some can't see it..others don't want to see it...and some will try to convince others of what is not true.

Truth is always truth...not distorted facts...and it haunts those that chose to not tell it....watch the dogs leave here and go on to win ..over and over..month after month...bring us a good one...

Crash..Dillon graves

Neon Red Blood

Crash and blood

Matt Goetz...Rosie

Charlie Miller..Trump

Shane Smith flash

Flash and Trump

Posted by tylerman on 07-24-2023 12:11 AM:

Getting warmer here but working on lowest heat times day and night

Lots of coon..lots of coon ..still have mulberry producing fruit

Feeders...good tracks...but mostly we work on tree here..tracks is important but they gotta tree or they ain't gonna make it..we enhance it..we can't install it.

Tree work..coon..repetition

Bring me one that hates a coon...

Anybody can tell you how..not everyone can do it or even understand why when and how

Any one can tell you they will feed and water and actually do the work with your dog

Facebook is the avenue to ser vids..pics..we try to post regularly..go to dave collins or neon red kennels on facebook...Camden Indiana. Search for either page

Posted by tylerman on 08-15-2023 03:24 PM:

Had some nice ones go home..couple new ones came in

Going to be a lil cooler for a couple days

Got a phrogger pup coming on Good and a dog of Ike rainey..Heather Island looking like gonna make a nice dog

We just keep working dogs...along with feeding..shoveling kennels..filling coon feeders..and real live coon..

Dogs get a few chances everyday at tracking and treei g live coon

No coon..no coon dog

I want a track and tree...not just trees...

Some talk...we train...

Posted by tylerman on 09-14-2023 08:37 PM:

Why do so many dogs come here month after month for yrs...because I don't brag I'm the best for every dog...I do my best with every dog..every dog. I tell the truth ...that is what scares those trying to hide from and have to seek out the flying monkeys to do the work and tell the lies they are led to believe...and use people as they need them...research narsassit...e lies

Those people have never met me and have not a clue what we do here or how we do it...and we keep on working and help make dog after dog win prizes that they have never and will nevers win.

You will never see me post I have several opening or begging for dogs...that would scare me

Look us up on Facebook and neon red kennels..we work every day and most nights

It takes more than talk and following a dog around or having your following a dog around

We need progress and reps...thats how they learn...we can't install traits..but we can enhance them

Posted by tylerman on 10-23-2023 10:52 PM:

Work work work

Look up dave collins on facebook for videos of dog work day and night...

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Originally posted by tylerman
What does it cost....what is the worth...400 divided by 30 equals 13

13 bucks a day to kennel...feed..water..shovel...and work your dog

And we actually hunt the dogs....just like yesterday and last night

Day and night till they get it right...proving the nay sayers wrong...beating the liars with proof they eats at em still everyday....people know real truth....and all credibility is lost for those who chose the be fool enough to lie about us and try to tell you about how to start a dog...that which they do not do..proof will always outperform...and we will always tell the truth.

Over and over...day after day...month after month....winner after winner

Last night...

Chad Mccoins..sage

Neon Red Blood

Matt Seeleys...fog

Marvin Nash...strum

Sadie

William Durstine....Mike Zavada ..Tank

Shane Smith ...Bryan Whitted...flash

Posted by tylerman on 11-05-2023 10:11 PM:

Season is upon us..we work dogs..yes we actually work with the dogs...together and test alone..alone

The goal is to get every dog to tree easy ones on their own or better

Takes more than talk and false promises

Not story time here..go look us up on Facebook
.dave collins or neon red kennels...videos of different dogs in different progressions of training
.the dog will tell you what they need if you know what to watch for

I read somewhere once that said a man should not be able to train a dog with a collar until he can train a good one without....wisdom..true wisdom

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Originally posted by tylerman
Work...Work...WORK ...in steady progression of reps...who actually hunts the dogs...with real live coon....some people actually do what they say...bring us a good one...we will put the time in...they don't all make it and we don't have magic wands or magic potion to pour in the ears to make the grey matter between the ears be what genetics want allow....if it's in em..we will find it.

Don't be like the wannabes who can't get anywhere in a lifetime of telling others how to do what they never have....1st step...don't let pride get in the way and get a better bred dog...don't be fooled by lines of no hunt mee too dogs that were never independent and have to be trained to be what they never were bred to be...look for lines of winners...world placements lined in pedigrees

Here is one

And another

And another

And another

And another

And even more

Posted by tylerman on 11-19-2023 01:28 AM:

And we still working....day and night till they get it right

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Originally posted by tylerman

Posted by tylerman on 12-24-2023 02:45 PM:

We still working..go to my Facebook page..dave collins or neon red kennels..mad puppy pack..

See videos of dogs that come here just recently pretty green and already treeing easy ones on their own out back...this is not a free run pen..dogs ate kenneled until they are worked daily...not a dozen free running dogs getting bullied or building bad habits...we are in eyesight of dogs...we work hands on..

If your dog will raise heck with a coon..it's likely mature enough and will do well here...go look at the videos..it's not magic..it's work..daily in repetition with progression as the dog improves

Remember..if they can't tree an easy coon..they likely never going to get better..we work on short tracks and emphasis on tree...dog has to learn to finish..bring me a good 9ne with bred in traits..we will both look good ...cause no dog j7st lays in the kennel here...

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Originally posted by tylerman
2 groups last night...walking..working...

Chad Mc Coins Spook and Brad Woodmansees Mad Marge

Don Eisenhuts Gunner and Wade Kuhns Daisy

Posted by tylerman on 01-11-2024 01:55 AM:

And yet another cage trained phenomenon goes home to tree his own in the wild on state land

A nice male duell Murphy brought over for Ike rainey..Heather island that I liked working with.

The good ones makes us all look good

Posted by tylerman on 02-12-2024 02:09 AM:

Wow...good young ones coming in..good reports of young ones going home...

I just turned 60...not a pup my self anymore..never had the need to buy a dog..always started my own and learned early on there are people who tell truths..and people ether ignorant or absolute liars...good bred dogs need less excuses...and too many weak men call common great.

Bring me a good one that is raising heck with a live coon and it will likely go far here...if it has tree instincts...it has to tree or I loose intrest...the good ones make me look good..period..but every dog get opportunities here..fact...it will see live coon

Foolish men don't understand they don't have enough time in their life to make enough bredings of a weak line of go hunt and weak tree leavers and mee too dogs and create great performance hounds..

But don't lave that good one in a pen...get it the real opportunity to be at its best potential with real work and progressive training

Go look us up on Facebook for videos...if I puc says a thousand words..then a videos should say more

Dave Collins ..Camden ind

Or Mad puppy pack ..neon red kennels

We got NOTHING TO HIDE.

Posted by tylerman on 03-16-2024 11:53 PM:

Real good reports from last months pups that have left here

Month after month..yr after yr...the goal of the day work turns into night work in reps till they can tree on their own is always the goal

Real coon...real work..effort daily

Posted by tylerman on 04-17-2024 12:05 AM:

We survived the weather blast...working through another batch of dogs this month...real coon ..real tracks..real trees

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