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Posted by Troy Arnold on 02-10-2015 03:27 PM:

Re: Re: Check this out

quote:
Originally posted by ahallada
Looks good Joe! I'd like to see an extended pedigree.

........................................CH GRNITECH PEEL'S RED PEPPER
.............................GRCH GRNITECH STEPPS LITTLE PEPPER
........................................WHITES LITTLE JILL
................GRNITECH THE RED ROCKER
........................................GRNITECH CH REEDS SALINE RIVER RATT
.............................GRNITECH NIGHTY NITE MOONLIGHT KATE
........................................GRNITECH WAPSI RIVER COOKIE
..NITECH GRCH HEADS CREEK MOONSHINE (DuelCH at 11months)(dob 8/23/2012) needs 1 win for grand
........................................NITECH PRATTS RED ROCK
.............................GRNITECH TAYLOR'S GUITAR'S GHOST
........................................PATCH CREEK RAG-ANN
................GRNITECH GRCH GUITAR GHOST'S MISSISSIPPI
........................................CH GRNITECH SANDY CREEK JAKE
.............................GRNITECH TAYLOR & GOUDE'S DAWN
........................................GRNITECH TREE SLAMMING BRANDY

PUPS

..........................GRNITECH PR T-TOP ROCKEY
...................GRNITECH T TOP TREE TALKIN RED RAT
..........................PR SOLBERG'S T TOP RED ROXY
............GRNITECH GRCH T-TOP RABBLE ROUSER
..........................GRNITECH HOFFMEISTERS RED BOMMER
...................GRNITECH GRCH T-TOP ROCK-N-RED RAVEN
..........................GRNITECH MORIETTA'S TREE RINGIN RED BELL
.....GRNITECH BRANCH RIVER ICE AGE RAGE
..........................GRNITECH CH PR TO THE MAXX
...................GRNITECH SOUTH BRANCH MIDNITE PETE
..........................PR WIESMAN'S RED RUBY
............GRNITECH CH ZUKS RED PRIDE PAGE
..........................NITECH PR BURKDOLL'S BONE
...................NITECH BRANCH RIVER ICE AGE SAGE
..........................NITECH PR BURKDOLL'S SUE
GRNITECH GRCH FELDMANNS BRANCH RIVER TAMMY
..........................GRNITECH CH PR TO THE MAXX
...................GRNITECH SOUTH BRANCH MIDNITE PETE
..........................PR WIESMAN'S RED RUBY
............GRNITECH CH CENTRAL WISCONSIN RED CEDAR
..........................GRNITECH CH PR DAWNS TIMBER JACK
...................GRNITECH RINEHARTS CENTRAL PAGE
..........................GRNITECH BUSSROW BOTTOM BRANDY II
.....GRNITECH GRCH S&RS TREEIN RED MISS RUBY
..........................NITECH PR ALL NIGHT BRUSH BUSTER
...................GRNITECH GRCH ALL NIGHT BRUSH BUSTER II
..........................PR SHIRLEY'S LITTLE RED RUBY
............GRNITECH CH FLATTENS BUSSY ANNE
..........................GRNITECH PR CEDARFORK VALLEY WOODPECKER
...................NITECH SNOWS IZZY
..........................PR LITTLE RIVER SISY

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Posted by ahallada on 02-10-2015 03:34 PM:

Thanks Troy. You are the official pedigree guru here.

Great stuff. I owned 4 dogs in that pedigree, although they are all in the 4th and 5th generation. Now I'm feeling old!

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Gr.Nt.Ch.Ch. Dawns Timber Jack
1988 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner
1989 UKC World Champion Redbone
1989 Purina Outstanding Redbone Coonhound
#2 Historic Redbone Sire/ Top 20 All Breeds
American Redbone Coonhound Assoc. Hall of Fame

Gr.Nt.Ch. Bussrow Bottom Brandy II
1991 American Redbone Days Champion
1992 AKC World Champion Redbone
1992 ACHA World Champion Redbone
1992 Wisconsin State Champion
1994 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex
Produced 2 Nt. Ch. , 1 Gr.Nt.Ch. out of 2 litters and two Redbone Days Winners

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. PKC Gold Ch. Layton's Classy Cali
2012 UKC World Champion Redbone and 7th Place Overall
2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 UKC World Champion Redbone Female
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - Goodsprings, AL
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Series Race - 3rd Place Overall
2016 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - New Albany, MS
2016 PKC Texas State Race Winner
2016 PKC Redbone Breed Race Winner
PKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

PKC Ch. Gr.Nt.Ch. Coffman's Smokin Red Buck
2016 UKC World Hunt 5th Place and World Champion Redbone
2016 National Redbone Days Overall Winner

Gr.Nt.Ch. Reinhart's Central Page
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Brandy II)

Gr.Nt.Ch. Too the Maxx
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Jenkins Crying Katie)
1992 National Redbone Days Champion

Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Ambraw River Rock
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Hersh's Huntin Red Kate)
1992 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex

Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle
1986 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner

Nt.Ch. Timber Mace
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack X Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle)
Mother of Gr.Nt.Ch. Babb's Hazel

Nt. Ch. Timber Shock
(Gr.Nt.Ch.Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Jessie)

Gr. Ch. Nt. Ch. Squaw Mountain Goldie
(Direct Daughter of Gr.Nt.Ch.Smokey Mountain Brandy)
1990 Autumn Oaks Best of Show Winner
1988 Indiana State Champion

Posted by Richard Lambert on 02-10-2015 03:36 PM:

Oh my goodness talk about an outcross, there is something for everyone in that pedigree.

Posted by mmarshall on 02-10-2015 03:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nickkauffman
Nighty Nite Moonlight Kate was a grand daughter of his Fast Pitch dog who probably has a lot of Talker in there..)

Kate was off ratt ratt was off burning Ben x tj daughter

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Grnt moonlight ky Kate (grnt ranger x grnt moonlight Kate
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Posted by Richard Lambert on 02-10-2015 05:23 PM:

Long Tall Sally was a grand pup of TC's Jackhammer. Sally's grandad and Kate's grandmother were half brother/sister. Does that make Sally and Kate cousins? Goose is out of Moose X Deanna which makes Kate and Sally her grandmothers and puts TJ on the top and bottom. I wonder what the 7 gen pedigree of a Moose X Outlaw Billy Jean cross would look like? What does the 7 gen pedigree of the BTK X Willow (Rabble X Sally) pedigree look like?

Posted by Danny McCleskey on 02-10-2015 05:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ahallada
Yep, Ratt was off Ben and Timber Rose. I think Rose was out of one of the better crosses from TJ. Her mother was owned by Bill Anderson and her name was Andersons Kate. Kate won US Redbone Days and came really close to winning it again the following year where she won opposite sex. She was a daughter of Henning's Chief and granddaughter of Hayes Rambling Red Ace. The litter by her and TJ threw many good coon dogs and show dogs including TC Jackhammer that won some big shows in his time including a redbone days multiple times, the Winter Classic, Autumn Oaks, and UKC World Ch.

Timber Rose was owned by Bill Wallock and to my knowledge was finished to Nt Ch at a year of age and sold back to Bill Anderson. I noticed that the pedigrees don't show her as a Nt Ch so I'm not sure why that is. There may have been a conflict at the hunt she won her first place at. I hunted with her a few times and she was a really early starting dog treeing at 4 months of age and on her own at 6 months. She won her first hunt before a year of age. Classy little tree dog but not a quick strike dog. I think Bill sold her because of her lack of strike power and Bill Anderson wanted her more. She was a nice looking dog with that solid dark red coat that Ace was known for. More reproducing red power infused in this bloodline.

There were two females off GrNiteCh Dawns Timber Jack named Dawns Timber Rose. One was out of NiteCh Bill's Red Kate and the other was out of NiteCh Bosley's Little Kate. GrNiteCh Reeds Saline River Ratt's mother was out of the one from GrNiteCh Dawns Timber Jack & NiteCh Bosleys Little Kate. Ratt's mother was not a NiteCh.

Posted by Richard Lambert on 02-10-2015 05:46 PM:

So, Jackhammer and Ratt's mother were only half brother/sister both being out of TJ, but not full brothers.

Posted by ahallada on 02-10-2015 06:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Danny McCleskey
There were two females off GrNiteCh Dawns Timber Jack named Dawns Timber Rose. One was out of NiteCh Bill's Red Kate and the other was out of NiteCh Bosley's Little Kate. GrNiteCh Reeds Saline River Ratt's mother was out of the one from GrNiteCh Dawns Timber Jack & NiteCh Bosleys Little Kate. Ratt's mother was not a NiteCh.

Ya after I wrote that above I was wondering about that too. I wasn't involved with this breeding but I remember it well now. Bill had too many Roses over there. This Rose was owned by our friend Jordan Rathke (owner of Moon). He also owned a Nt.Ch. littermate to Rose named Annie who was a good one. He got Rose back from a friend who was using her only for hide hunting. Rose was a tripod after she lost one of her legs but she was still a good coondog. I hunted with her one time only. We had her, Molly, Maxx, Moon, and my Brandy II female that night. We weren't lacking in tree power that night.

Rose's mother was Nt. Ch. Bosley's Kate who was a line bred Timber Chopper top and bottom female with really concentrated breeding. I think Bill Wallock got her from Roger Shabel. She was out of Nt. Ch. Bower's Timber Hawk who was out of Gr. Nt. Ch. Timber Scanning Radar. The reason we liked her breeding though was because she was bred just like TJs mom on the dams side (Timber Chopper 3 times up close). She had Timber Chopper 4 or 5 times in her pedigree. Most of the the breedings on Timber Scanning Radar were line bred so I'm pretty sure Bower's Timber Hawk was from a Timber Chopper line breeding.

We had big hopes for this litter, and I was supposed to get a pick of the litter male from this cross. Only one male was born and it died. Annie had a big muscle frame like the Radar dog and had a white patch on her chest too like Radar. They were really gritty dogs and didn't take crap from anyone. Solid well balanced coon dogs from strike to tree and good pressure tree dogs. I hunted with Bosley's Kate one night and she was a really hard tree dog. Reminded me alot of TJs mom Dawn. Very tight built frames (little buffalo) and gave this line of dogs a lot of muscle and grit.

Bill had both TJ and Ben in his kennel at the same time for awhile. He was putting a hide season on Ben for Roger Shabel when he was about 3 years old. He was later sold to a friend of Bill's, Jack Roe, in that area of Wisconsin. Bill bred a few females to Ben including TJs full sister Nt. Ch. Dawns Timber Kate. Kate was one of my favorite dogs to hunt with and one of the hardest tree dogs I've ever been in the woods with. When her and TJ treed together it was pretty intense and loud. I kept her at my place for a summer and hunted her and TJ together almost every night. They pushed each other really hard and I put alot of miles on that summer. If I could own one pair of dogs, I'd want them back.

There is no wonder this line of dogs reproduced the way they did with all of this concentrated Timber Chopper breeding. Just this cross alone brought TC in the equation 8-9 times. Cross this on Ben and you got it 5 more times. I think Max Hunter would be proud!

Posted by Joe Maitland on 02-11-2015 03:34 PM:

Troy

Thanks Troy. You nailed that pedigree. Ive got 22 years of breeding and campaigning behind me putting together that cross. But it would not have been possible without all my friends top and bottom who helped put it together. Up close- Bill Feldmann is the man to blame for this most reason mating!

Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 02-11-2015 09:19 PM:

That is one impressive pedigree. Just the right mix of old blood and new with each generation produced by a big winning previous generation of top redbones. These are the kinds of crosses that will change the competition side of the redbone breed. To be good coon dogs they must be able to tree coons consistently....but to win and achieve what the dogs in this pedigree have ....generation over generation something more is needed.
That something is competitiveness or a competitive edge. That is the difference between a solid coon dog and a big winning solid coon dog who can compete and beat most of dogs it is hunted against.
Congrats on what looks to be a real next level type proven competition winner bred cross. I am sure we will see a few of these in the winners circle down the road.

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Dual Grand Nighty Night Amber
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Big Time Britt
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Billy Jean
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Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Mac
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Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Cat Scratch Fever
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Posted by bridger80 on 02-11-2015 10:51 PM:

Shane
would offspring from the tammy/moonshine litter be potential in your breeding program?

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Posted by Joe Maitland on 02-12-2015 12:05 AM:

Consistence-

One thing Ive been proud of is the consecutive string of 9 straight generations of Grand Nite Champions dating back to Timber Chopper.

1. GrNtCh Hunter's Timber Chopper
2. GrNtCh Lumpkins Timber Chopper Jr
3. GrNtCh Toussaint Red Talker
4. GrNtCh Dawns Timber Jack
5. GrNtCh To The Maxx
6. GrNtCh South Branch Midnite Pete
7. GrNtCh Zuks Red Pride Page
8. GrNtCh Branch River Ice Age Rage
9. GrNtCh Feldmanns Branch River Tammy
10........???????

And on Tammys bottom side:
6. GrNtCh South Branch Midnite Pete
7. GrNtCh Rineharts Central WI Red Cedar
8. GrNtCh S&R's Treein Red Miss Ruby
9. GrNtCh Feldmann's Branch River Tammy
10..........??????

Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 02-12-2015 01:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bridger80
Shane
would offspring from the tammy/moonshine litter be potential in your breeding program?

Yes, moonshine's sire is out of Moonlight Kate who is a grand daughter of Billy the Kid....which everything I have is line bred on. Tammy is very heavy Timber Chopper Bred on back just like most of my dogs and I like that there are some outcrosses in this pedigree that worked and no doubt added some traits that make the parents what they are. T-top is a line I am trying outcrosses on and this cross also has others that are interesting that are not found in the dogs I am breeding like Sandy creek Jake , buster II, Ghost, Bone, and C.V. Woodpecker. Success can be tricky at least high % success when you outcross to try and add some desirable traits. It is much easier and more effective in my opinion when you dont do it directly...but to a related line that incorporated the outcrosses previously with success into a line that is already similar to your own. Most of my dogs are related to the dogs that Joe and others have been breeding over the years in that they go back to Timber Chopper a lot. Joe has worked more through the Timber Jack side while I worked more through the Burning Ben side but both share a lot of common ancestors. Joe outcrosses to Rabble with success several years back and I am working it in more recently. My first two redbones that everything I own or am partnered on go back to two key crosses on the same female.....Outlaw Jessie. The Timber Jack x Jessie cross and the Burning Ben x Jessie cross.
Both were good, proven, big winning crosses and both have produced many big winners on down the line to this day. I consider most of the dogs in this cross between Tammy x Moonshine to have similar breeding to lines I promote with the added benefit of a couple of lines incorporated in from outcrosses that should work very well. It is an outstanding cross on paper and should prove so in the woods as well. Good luck to those fortunate enough to get a pup

Posted by jbiggert on 02-12-2015 08:35 PM:

RICH YOU ARE LETTING OUT THE BIG SECRET ON GOOSE. JUST THINK OF THE STUDS SHE CAN BE BRED TO JUST IN MY KENNEL. THAT HAVE TIMBER JACK IN THEM UP CLOSE. DO YOU THINK SHE CAN MAKE KELLYS LIST. THE STUDYS SHOW THAT GOOSE WILL REPO. TIME WILL TELL. THAT IS WHY SHE IS REPLACING PEPPER ANN. THE RIGHT FEMALE MAKE THINGS WORK.

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Males

1) Ch. Gr. Nt. Ch. Nighty Nite Little Red - (Semen) (Gr. Nt. Yellow River Rocky X Nt. Ch. Gr. F Grw. Maggie)

2) Gr. Ch. Nt. Ch. Nighty Nite Red Cloud - 4 Years Old (Ch. Gr. Nt. Ch. To The Max X Gr. Ch. Gr. Nt. Ch. Moonlight Pepper Ann)

3) Nighty Nite T - (Gr. Ch. Gr. Nt. Ch. Moonlight After Shock X Gr. Ch. Gr. Nt. Ch. Moonlight Pepper Ann)

Females

1) Gr. Ch. Gr. Nt. Ch. Moonlight Pepper Ann - 9 Years Old (Gr. Ch. Gr. Nt. Ch. Steps Little Pepper X Gr. Nt. Ch. Nighty Nite Moonlight Kate)

2) Gr. Ch. Nighty Nite Little Red Sky - 3 Years Old (Gr. Ch. Gr. Nt. Ch. Outlaw Red Moon X Gr. Ch. Gr. Nt. Ch. Moonlight Pepper Ann)

Posted by Richard Lambert on 02-13-2015 04:58 PM:

It sounds like the Alabama Pepsi Man sure knows what he is doing.

Posted by jbiggert on 02-13-2015 08:20 PM:

Rich you are right on that. Glad old Joe stuck to the timber jack line. MR. Hallada you may have a pup any time, but when you get that that pup I know my chaces of being in the winners circle will be slim. Hope you come back. YOU ARE ONE OF THE OLD TIMERS NOW. ha.ha.ha. john

Posted by Joe Maitland on 02-13-2015 09:20 PM:

Goose

Johnny what is Goose off from?

Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 02-13-2015 09:41 PM:

Re: Goose

quote:
Originally posted by Joe Maitland
Johnny what is Goose off from?

Goose is off of the Moose x Moonlight Deana cross....I think only a couple of them lived out of that litter.

Posted by ahallada on 02-14-2015 05:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by jbiggert
Rich you are right on that. Glad old Joe stuck to the timber jack line. MR. Hallada you may have a pup any time, but when you get that that pup I know my chaces of being in the winners circle will be slim. Hope you come back. YOU ARE ONE OF THE OLD TIMERS NOW. ha.ha.ha. john

Hey John
What's going on with that Little Moon dog?

Posted by jbiggert on 02-15-2015 11:54 PM:

MOON IS JUST A HIDE DOG NOW TO MANY GOOD YOUNG DOGS TO HUNT. I WILL USE HIM IN MY FEMALES. I HAVE GOOD BLOODED STUDS THAT HAVE OLD JACK UP CLOSE. AND THEY WILL BE BRED TO THE BEST FEMALE I HAVE. JUST NOT A STUD MAN. RON SWAN OWENS THE CLOUD DOG THAT IS OUT OF TO THE MAX. JUST GOIN TO MAKE LITTERS I WILL HUNT AND SALE THE REST TO LUCKY REDBONE MEN , MAY EVEN GIVE TOO....JOHN

Posted by ahallada on 02-19-2015 05:47 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by jbiggert
MOON IS JUST A HIDE DOG NOW TO MANY GOOD YOUNG DOGS TO HUNT. I WILL USE HIM IN MY FEMALES. I HAVE GOOD BLOODED STUDS THAT HAVE OLD JACK UP CLOSE. AND THEY WILL BE BRED TO THE BEST FEMALE I HAVE. JUST NOT A STUD MAN. RON SWAN OWENS THE CLOUD DOG THAT IS OUT OF TO THE MAX. JUST GOIN TO MAKE LITTERS I WILL HUNT AND SALE THE REST TO LUCKY REDBONE MEN , MAY EVEN GIVE TOO....JOHN

Kate and Pepper Ann are finding their way on many pedigrees. Pepper Ann crossed well on just about everything she was bred to. We just made a cross that will have Kate and Pepper Ann 3 times up close and Timber Jack 5 times.

Posted by bfeldmann on 02-19-2015 06:27 PM:

Tammy had 5 little bootlegger's yesterday only 1 female hope the little girl makes it

Posted by ahallada on 02-19-2015 06:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by bfeldmann

Tammy had 5 little bootlegger's yesterday only 1 female hope the little girl makes it

Congrats Bill,
There should be some winners in that litter!

Posted by ahallada on 02-24-2015 06:23 PM:

Re: Consistence-

quote:
Originally posted by Joe Maitland
One thing Ive been proud of is the consecutive string of 9 straight generations of Grand Nite Champions dating back to Timber Chopper.

1. GrNtCh Hunter's Timber Chopper
2. GrNtCh Lumpkins Timber Chopper Jr
3. GrNtCh Toussaint Red Talker
4. GrNtCh Dawns Timber Jack
5. GrNtCh To The Maxx
6. GrNtCh South Branch Midnite Pete
7. GrNtCh Zuks Red Pride Page
8. GrNtCh Branch River Ice Age Rage
9. GrNtCh Feldmanns Branch River Tammy
10........???????

And on Tammys bottom side:
6. GrNtCh South Branch Midnite Pete
7. GrNtCh Rineharts Central WI Red Cedar
8. GrNtCh S&R's Treein Red Miss Ruby
9. GrNtCh Feldmann's Branch River Tammy
10..........??????

Hey Joe, why aren't you going back to RC more? How much semen you got stored on him? Man I'd have a barn load of well bred females lined up to breed to him if I were you. So many great females out there right now. The picking is ripe man! I'd take a pup off of him right now!

We don't know what we got until it becomes a memory!

Posted by ahallada on 02-24-2015 09:17 PM:

Here is a cross we are making now:
Timber Jack 5x and Timber Chopper over 50x

....................Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. Outlaw Jessie James
..........Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch Outlaw Jessie James Jr.
....................Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. Wright's Litlle Girl II
Nt.Ch.Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man
....................Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. Outlaw Billy The Kid
..........Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Billy Jean
....................Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. Nighty Nite Amber

Pups

***********GrNtCh 'PR' Wrongway Ace
*******GrNtCh 'PR' Moonlight Aftershock
***********GrNtCh 'PR' Nighty Night Moonlight Kate
All Grand Timber Macy
***********GrNtCh 'PR' Stepp's Little Pepper
*******GrNtCh 'PR' Moonlight Pepper Ann
***********GrNtCh 'PR' Nighty Night Moonlight Kate

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