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Posted by 4play on 07-29-2020 09:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
But they must be silenced we can't hear from doctors only puppets!
Notice none of these so called studies the so called experts use to discount these therapies do not utilize zinc. Zinc has been used for years to help shorten recovery of the common cold another coronavirus.
Fauci's ties to Bill Gates (not a doctor but the chief expert on all things pandemic and vaccines) look up who Fauci's wife is, more fishy ties.



$20 dollar pill vs fauci/gates $1,200 per treatment of remdesivir.Is why

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Posted by micooner on 07-30-2020 03:58 AM:

I'll take my advice from Fauci anyday over a dr from the slums who preaches that we are manipulated by alien DNA and preaches women's gynecological problems are caused by astral sexual activity. Meaning spacemen from out of this galaxy. Look up some of her sermons.


Posted by Bob Hennessey on 07-30-2020 05:19 PM:

My name is Dr. George Fareed. I am a physician in Imperial County, California, that has been hit hard by the COVID-19 pandemic. I take care of patients on both an outpatient and inpatient basis, as well as nursing home patients, the most vulnerable among us.
In this letter, I am proposing a medical strategy that can help us not only through this current crisis, but also that will enable us to approach outbreaks of COVID-19 that may occur in the future.
In my attempts to keep people alive, I have had an opportunity to use many different types of treatments — remdesivir, dexamethasone, convalescent plasma replacement, etc. Yet, by far the best tool beyond supportive care with oxygen has been the combination of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), with either azithromycin or doxycycline, and zinc. This "HCQ cocktail" (that costs less than $100) has enabled me to prevent patients from being admitted to the hospital, as well as help those patients that are hospitalized. The key is giving the HCQ cocktail early, within the first five days of the disease.
Not only have I seen outstanding results with this approach, I have not seen any patient exhibit serious side-effects. To be clear — this drug has been used as an anti-malarial and to treat systemic lupus erythematosus as well as rheumatoid arthritis, and has over a 50-year track record for safety. It is shocking that it only now is being characterized as a dangerous drug.
Moreover, I am in my seventies, and I (as well as some other older physicians in the hospital) use hydroxychloroquine and zinc as prophylaxis. None of us have contracted the disease despite our high exposure to COVID patients nor have we experienced any side-effects.
Despite the characterization in the mainstream media as the drug being “ineffective” and “dangerous,” the evidence in the literature tells a different story. I am not only an “MD,” but a former Harvard Medical School assistant professor and UCLA School of Medicine associate professor as well and am very competent at evaluating studies. There is ample evidence now that the HCQ cocktail is effective and there is no good evidence that there are significant side effects.
Yet, like many of my colleagues in the trenches treating COVID, I find myself being obstructed on different levels from treating my patients with hydroxychloroquine. The next option is remdesivir, which in my opinion is inferior and very expensive. Moreover, that drug is not readily available and is rationed by hospitals. Despite the representations by Dr. Fauci and others, there is less evidence supporting the use of remdesivir than hydroxychloroquine.
To be clear — hydroxychloroquine is normally not helpful when given to very ill patients. Unfortunately, most of the studies have evaluated this drug only in that context. The HCQ cocktail is best used to prevent patients from getting to that dire stage.
This is all so tragic because the use of HCQ cocktail would solve some of the very basic problems we are now facing:
The HCQ cocktail can be used for outpatients to prevent hospitalizations and thus keep our hospitals and ICUs from being overrun with COVID patients.
The HCQ cocktail can be used early on in hospitalization to prevent patients from requiring mechanical ventilation and reducing the length of hospital stay.
HCQ/zinc can be used for prophylaxis for high risk individuals including front line health providers, first responders, and even teachers who are at high risk for COVID.
As a physician, I am committed to my patients as well as doing my part to solve the COVID crisis. It has been deflating to see how the “science” has been corrupted and manipulated in an effort to disparage hydroxychloroquine. The fact that both Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine had to retract articles relevant to hydroxychloroquine due to gross manipulation and mischaracterization of data goes to the heart of what is best characterized as a smear campaign.
As an example of the faulty science, one study (University of Minnesota) was cited in the mainstream media as disproving the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine as “prophylaxis,” yet the patients received the drug one to four days AFTER exposure. That is not prophylaxis at all — the drug must be taken PRIOR to exposure. This is just one example of the non-scientific way the drug has been evaluated and the subsequent mainstream media mischaracterizations.
I am writing to you out of the frustration of knowing that there is a solution, but watching as our country flounders in dealing with COVID-19. In my opinion, tens of thousands are dying unnecessarily. Our current approach of waiting for these high-risk patients to become ill and then hospitalizing them is failing. The answer is early diagnosis of the high-risk individuals, and then treating them as outpatients with the HCQ cocktail to prevent hospitalization.
So, what I am proposing is a drastic shift from our current approach: we need to ramp up our outpatient efforts of treating COVID-19 to decrease the burden on hospitals and save lives. Such an approach requires an effective outpatient treatment — we have that in the HCQ cocktail.
How do we get there? I propose that the Task Force allow myself and a few other clinicians/researchers who have used and/or studied the HCQ cocktail present our plan that focuses on outpatient treatment and prevention as opposed to a hospital-based approach only treating patients when they become ill. The FDA and CDC should be there as well given that they are the agencies that formulate the drug policies.
We need a medical strategy, not only for now while we are in a crisis, but for the future. There is no guarantee that a vaccine will rid us of COVID-19. If we had a strategy, we would not have to shut down American life, especially schools, every time there is an outbreak.
We should be seeking a solution that will save as many lives as possible, and the outpatient-based approach that I and some other doctors have been advocating will best accomplish that goal.
I hope you consider my proposal, and I look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely yours,
George C. Fareed, M.D.

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Posted by micooner on 07-30-2020 05:28 PM:

Now I could believe that. Start it at the beginning of treatment and try it. Not recommended though if you have any kind of heart ailments.


Posted by Bob Hennessey on 07-30-2020 06:45 PM:

An epidemiology professor at the Yale School of Public Health said hydroxychloroquine could save 100,000 lives from the coronavirus but added that the controversial anti-malaria drug has instead been used in a “propaganda war.”
"I think 75,000 to 100,000 lives will be saved," Dr. Harvey Risch said.
“It's a political drug now, not a medical drug, and that's caused the complete population's ignorance. And I think we're basically fighting a propaganda war against the medical facts, and that color is not just the population of people, how they think about it, but doctors as well,” Risch said earlier in an interview.
Risch also addressed colleagues who have denounced using the drug as a treatment for coronavirus patients.
“There are many doctors that I’ve gotten hostile remarks about, saying that all the evidence is bad for it, and, in fact, that is not true at all,” Risch said, claiming the medication can be used as a "prophylactic" for front-line workers.
“All the evidence is actually good for it when it is used in outpatient uses. Nevertheless, the only people who actually see that are a whole pile of doctors who are on the front lines treating those patients across the country, and they are the ones who are at risk of being forced not to do it,” Risch said.
"A lot of good things have come out. And you'd be surprised at how many people are taking it, especially the front-line workers, before you catch it. The front-line workers — many, many are taking it. I happen to be taking it," he said on May 18.
Public officials and media pundits have been highly critical of the drug's use during the pandemic because of a dearth of evidence that it has the ability to combat or ward off the coronavirus.
"Despite positive results seen from the use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine in some patients hospitalized with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), concerns have begun to mount worldwide about how these drugs affect patients’ cardiovascular health, specifically the heart," a notice that appeared on the peer-reviewed American Journal of Managed Care website in April said. "The drugs’ safety and efficacy in this area have come under fire due to the lack of actionable data from large-scale clinical trials."
The Food and Drug Administration even issued a warning about using the drug to treat the coronavirus outside of a hospital setting or clinical trial, saying it could cause heart rhythm problems. The FDA issued an emergency use authorization that allowed hydroxychloroquine samples donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be used to treat COVID-19 patients while a clinical trial was unavailable, but it was revoked last month. The FDA said its legal criteria for the emergency use authorization were no longer being met because it determined the drug was unlikely to be effective in treating the coronavirus. The FDA also noted that the drug may cause other hazardous health effects.
One peer-reviewed study published this month from the Henry Ford Health System found that coronavirus patients who took hydroxychloroquine while being treated in a hospital were more likely to survive. "In this multi-hospital assessment, when controlling for COVID-19 risk factors, treatment with hydroxychloroquine alone and in combination with azithromycin was associated with reduction in COVID-19 associated mortality," the study's authors wrote.

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 07-30-2020 07:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by micooner
I'll take my advice from Fauci anyday over a dr from the slums who preaches that we are manipulated by alien DNA and preaches women's gynecological problems are caused by astral sexual activity. Meaning spacemen from out of this galaxy. Look up some of her sermons.

She was not the only Dr there yet the news media has laser focused in on her because of her out there religious beliefs instead of a GROUP of doctors who have been treating patients. Guess what we are treated in hospitals every day who have all sorts of religious beliefs that do not align with mine Hindus, Muslims or Buddhists to name a few. Look up the Church of Scientology if you want to get on the alien subject. It seems to be acceptable to many in Hollywood and the MSM.
Fauci is a big pharma shill who has changed his mind about what we should be doing so many times I can't even keep up anymore. His latest wear googles. The eyes are a mucus membrane and disease can be transmitted through them, any person with any medical training at all knows this so why 7 months in he has came up with this new suggestion for the general public. So we are to wear mask to protect others from us and goggles to protect ourselves from others. Where in the world is my plastic bubble I seem to have misplaced it!!!

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Posted by 4play on 07-30-2020 08:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by micooner
Now I could believe that. Start it at the beginning of treatment and try it. Not recommended though if you have any kind of heart ailments.


Fauci has talked out of both sides of his mouth since day 1 !!!!

If you get to watch ENTIRE video.Every Doctor there supported HydroxyChloroquine {I'm sure I spelled it wrong}
Just watched another video.Guy claimed Hydroxy turned him around in less than 1 day on it.If i can find it,i'll put link in the post.

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Posted by micooner on 07-30-2020 08:26 PM:

I don't know who the other people in the pic are but she was the spokesperson. Also don't forget the tea party rounded up these people or forwarded this message to the media. Church of scientology is a cult religion as far as I'm concerned. Really the only alien DNA is found in the hopi Indian tribe if I'm not mistaken. Lol. Here's my take on conspiracies. The local township supervisor got a load of left over gravel from a township park project, now that's a conspiracy. Total of 3 people involved. Now big pharma, Fauci, Bill Gates, plus thousands of others. I don't waste my time even considering that's a conspiracy. Remember back a few years ago the ammo shortage, and sightings of military trains on the move through the cities. This forum was full of this. Whatever happened with those conspiracies?


Posted by shadinc on 07-31-2020 02:20 AM:

Fauci says Hydroxychloroquine needs more testing. It's been approved since 1955. Results should be in shortly. In all that time it's not been proven harmful, so why the big push against it?

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 07-31-2020 03:07 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by micooner
I don't waste my time even considering that's a conspiracy. Remember back a few years ago the ammo shortage, and sightings of military trains on the move through the cities. This forum was full of this. Whatever happened with those conspiracies?

Obama left office and Hillary didn't get elected lol.
"Contingency plans" and "Continuance of government" that suspend the Constitution are not conspiracy theories they are real and have been around for decades if not longer. Our military does war game all sorts of scenarios. And for the record some now closed Walmarts have become detention facilities others who knows what is going on with them but wire fencing built to keep people in as opposed to out though they may be empty now does raise some eyebrows. The trains moving large amounts of equipment way more often than normal also was not a conspiracy it was happening. Now I can't tell the last time I saw one and just today like nearly every day I've waited on twice on trains to pass through our little town. Cheyenne goes to work at 4am this movement was frequently happening at the early hours a few years ago and very rare now. Where was it all going idk but it was going. Various gov agencies that really little to no use for ammo were buying up large quantities none of this is conspiracy either, you can look it up.

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 07-31-2020 03:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
Fauci says Hydroxychloroquine needs more testing. It's been approved since 1955. Results should be in shortly. In all that time it's not been proven harmful, so why the big push against it?

Follow the $$$$ same as always

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Posted by honalieh on 07-31-2020 06:59 AM:

COVID-19

Trump: 15 Confirmed Cases soon going to zero. I heard it from a Re-LIE-able source. So, why are we even talking about this anymore.

News: The media is reporting (in the U.S. alone) 4.6 M+ Confirmed Cases. 155K+ Confirmed Deaths. Both counts growing massively on a daily basis. Experts suggesting that both of these counts are understated. More to come. Haven't hit the second wave yet.

Just can't trust the news, the hospitals, the doctors and healthcare workers, the state reporting agencies, the people getting sick and/or dieing, the family members that have lost loved ones. The rest of the world that is also reporting cases and deaths at historic levels (and still growing).

Hard to believe that so many are getting infected, getting sick, even dieing just to make Trump look bad.

When you have a president that knows more than the generals about ISIS, more than the Pope about Christianity, more about global warming than environmental scientists, and more about infectious diseases than Faucci, who you gonna believe???

You gotta believe Trump. Right??? LMAO.


Posted by oklared on 07-31-2020 03:10 PM:

Re: COVID-19

quote:
Originally posted by honalieh
Trump: 15 Confirmed Cases soon going to zero. I heard it from a Re-LIE-able source. So, why are we even talking about this anymore.

News: The media is reporting (in the U.S. alone) 4.6 M+ Confirmed Cases. 155K+ Confirmed Deaths. Both counts growing massively on a daily basis. Experts suggesting that both of these counts are understated. More to come. Haven't hit the second wave yet.

Just can't trust the news, the hospitals, the doctors and healthcare workers, the state reporting agencies, the people getting sick and/or dieing, the family members that have lost loved ones. The rest of the world that is also reporting cases and deaths at historic levels (and still growing).

Hard to believe that so many are getting infected, getting sick, even dieing just to make Trump look bad.

When you have a president that knows more than the generals about ISIS, more than the Pope about Christianity, more about global warming than environmental scientists, and more about infectious diseases than Faucci, who you gonna believe???

You gotta believe Trump. Right??? LMAO.



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Posted by T Felderman on 07-31-2020 04:44 PM:

So we had a co-worker test positive a few days ago. We sent two other people who work directly with this employee to get checked. They filled out the paperwork and it was a four hour wait to get tested, so they left. Got a call yesterday from the doctors office saying they tested positive. I asked how the test was "positive" since they left and didn't get tested. All I got for an answer was our records show they are positive. True Story!


Posted by shadinc on 07-31-2020 05:33 PM:

The fact that NONE of these "reputable'" doctors are testing hydroxychloroquine makes me wonder. Are they afraid it's going to work? It's been approved for 65 years. It's as safe as aspirin.

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Posted by shadinc on 07-31-2020 05:43 PM:

Re: COVID-19

quote:
Originally posted by honalieh
Trump: 15 Confirmed Cases soon going to zero. I heard it from a Re-LIE-able source. So, why are we even talking about this anymore.

News: The media is reporting (in the U.S. alone) 4.6 M+ Confirmed Cases. 155K+ Confirmed Deaths. Both counts growing massively on a daily basis. Experts suggesting that both of these counts are understated. More to come. Haven't hit the second wave yet.

Just can't trust the news, the hospitals, the doctors and healthcare workers, the state reporting agencies, the people getting sick and/or dieing, the family members that have lost loved ones. The rest of the world that is also reporting cases and deaths at historic levels (and still growing).

Hard to believe that so many are getting infected, getting sick, even dieing just to make Trump look bad.

When you have a president that knows more than the generals about ISIS, more than the Pope about Christianity, more about global warming than environmental scientists, and more about infectious diseases than Faucci, who you gonna believe???

You gotta believe Trump. Right??? LMAO.

If you're laboring under the misconception that Nancy Pelosi wouldn't let you die to make Prsident Trump look bad, you need to wake up.

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Posted by 4play on 07-31-2020 07:16 PM:

Re: Re: COVID-19

quote:
Originally posted by oklared
TRUMP OR DEMOCRATS




That is what it 100% comes down too!!

Same as '16
If Hillary had been a Republican,I'd voted Democrat
Same for Biden today.NOT good for USA

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Posted by 4play on 07-31-2020 07:19 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
Fauci says Hydroxychloroquine needs more testing. It's been approved since 1955. Results should be in shortly. In all that time it's not been proven harmful, so why the big push against it?


$$$$$$
Hydrochlorqiune $20 a pill

Fauci's Rendesivir $1,200-$1,500 per treatment

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 07-31-2020 10:24 PM:

Honalieh, did you run out and buy your goggles yet? The beloved doctor who told us for a so long that mask weren't needed for the public then changed his mind and admitted he intentionally lied so there wouldn't be a shortage now wants you to wear goggles or face shields in addition to your mask.
Sometime years from now if we ever make it out of this mess with any sort of our freedom intact people will begin to analyze the social psychological ramifications of all this.

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Posted by shadinc on 08-01-2020 01:13 AM:

Did anybody see Jim Jordan questioning Fauci on whether or not he thought it would be a good idea to ban protesting until it's safe to go to church or a restaurant? Jordan tried 5 different ways. He never got an answer.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-01-2020 03:09 AM:

Is there any doubt as to whether Fauci is a dumrat or not now? Do you think that maybe he had been coached on what to say and what not to say?

For the last couple of weeks all the main stream media has talked about is how the number of Carona cases were spiking. They didn't say a word about the number of deaths staying the same. Now that the number of Carona cases are starting to drop, all that they are talking about are the number of deaths rising. Why is it that they only want to give us the bad news?


Posted by hillbilly56 on 08-01-2020 02:19 PM:

because this is a trail run to see how the citzens are going to act when they continue to take our rights away i belive the virus is out there but don't belive thier numbers i could be wrong


Posted by Bob Hennessey on 08-02-2020 06:35 PM:

Obama tells a room packed full of people, that "rooms packed full of people" are unsafe and that's why we must "vote by mail" 🤦🏿‍♂️😆 You can't make this stupidity up

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Posted by Robert Johnson on 08-03-2020 12:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bob Hennessey
Obama tells a room packed full of people, that "rooms packed full of people" are unsafe and that's why we must "vote by mail" 🤦🏿‍♂️😆 You can't make this stupidity up


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Posted by 4play on 08-03-2020 05:43 PM:

Lol

Want to see how fake the virus numbers are?
Google any series of 3 numbers and new cases.

example;
google 330 new cases
or 555 new cases
999 new cases

no matter the 3 digit number you google it comes up with results...lol

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