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Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
I was not referring to my speech here I was referring to big tech censorship of dissenting opinions and information that does not fit their narrative. They have been deleting accounts for years now but this week it has been rampant. Also, I would never refer to free speech as hate speech as you just did to me making my point of those on the left. What exactly is hate speech anyway? Why on earth would anyone who respects the freedoms afforded us by the Bill of Rights categorize speech that doesn't align with their own as hate? Freedoms are inched away until they are gone yours are at stake just as mine is.
Never one time have I ever asked for anyone who thinks differently than myself to be silenced here or anywhere else. My only sadness comes from the thought that so many are still so blind. It is not myself I am concerned about it is my beautiful grandchildren and their future.

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Originally posted by Cotton 1927
No body is stifling you Jen it's the same ole hate speech for almost 5000 post now .......if they have another thought other than yours they must be wrong how sad you must be....but the clock is ticking the people of this country will decide right or wrong it's the way a democracy works if it's not to your liking housing is very affordable in Mozambique !

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Friendly advise, when conversing with people who actually hold the Bill of rights high, and would defend it with their life, don't try to use the term "hate speech" or any other liberal tool to stifle speech, you quickly lose our respect

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Mr Sleepy head, I took that oath Sir to defend the constitution against all enemies.....I took it for people that didn't think like me,go to the same church I went to,who's skin wasn't the same color,didnt interpret the Bible the same way I did,who even ate different foods than I did, I did it for my two Uncles that were at Pearl Harbour on Dec 7 th 1941 and the 3rd who gave his life on the island of Luzon, I did it so hopefully folks wouldn't have to be called stupid,ignorant ,lazy,dumb,sheep like, and criticized for having their own thoughts different from others, So let me be clear with you......I do not care how you vote l just hope you do I may not like the outcome but it's the way a democracy works the people speak maybe you have heard that phrase WE THE PEOPLE.....AND hate speech is not left or right it's not a tool it's a weapon to silence all voices that have a different view, Hate Speech is a prejudice Sir it's comes in all forms even on UKC FORUM. Enjoy your day don't forget to vote! .......Cotton 1927

Mr. Cotton, your service is truly appreciated. My point is "hate speech" is a term used around the world to lock people up. One wouldn't have to drive very far north to find some hate speech laws. You have the right to call anything you want and I'll tell you that it would all bounce off. If any man that is proud of what he is, what he's done, what he stands for, there isn't a word that can offend him. God have mercy if the men and women that have died in combat for this country, did so that I couldn't be called stupid

Who determines what is "hate speech" and what is not?

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( abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group)

So all negative political comments can be labeled as hate speech since everyone is prejudiced in favor of their party , candidate or belief and all negative comments can be labeled as "abusive" by the other party or candidate.

If I say that a politician or his son is corrupt because he took a bribe, is that "hate speech"? It is "abusive" and I am "prejudiced" against them.

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Originally posted by Cotton 1927
( abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group)

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Originally posted by Cotton 1927
Mr Sleepy head, I took that oath Sir to defend the constitution against all enemies.....I took it for people that didn't think like me,go to the same church I went to,who's skin wasn't the same color,didnt interpret the Bible the same way I did,who even ate different foods than I did, I did it for my two Uncles that were at Pearl Harbour on Dec 7 th 1941 and the 3rd who gave his life on the island of Luzon, I did it so hopefully folks wouldn't have to be called stupid,ignorant ,lazy,dumb,sheep like, and criticized for having their own thoughts different from others, So let me be clear with you......I do not care how you vote l just hope you do I may not like the outcome but it's the way a democracy works the people speak maybe you have heard that phrase WE THE PEOPLE.....AND hate speech is not left or right it's not a tool it's a weapon to silence all voices that have a different view, Hate Speech is a prejudice Sir it's comes in all forms even on UKC FORUM. Enjoy your day don't forget to vote! .......Cotton 1927

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Originally posted by Cotton 1927
Mr Sleepy head, I took that oath Sir to defend the constitution against all enemies.....I took it for people that didn't think like me,go to the same church I went to,who's skin wasn't the same color,didnt interpret the Bible the same way I did,who even ate different foods than I did, I did it for my two Uncles that were at Pearl Harbour on Dec 7 th 1941 and the 3rd who gave his life on the island of Luzon, I did it so hopefully folks wouldn't have to be called stupid,ignorant ,lazy,dumb,sheep like, and criticized for having their own thoughts different from others, So let me be clear with you......I do not care how you vote l just hope you do I may not like the outcome but it's the way a democracy works the people speak maybe you have heard that phrase WE THE PEOPLE.....AND hate speech is not left or right it's not a tool it's a weapon to silence all voices that have a different view, Hate Speech is a prejudice Sir it's comes in all forms even on UKC FORUM. Enjoy your day don't forget to vote! .......Cotton 1927

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lot of people may have thought like me trump may have not been what this countryreally needed but was a way better choice than hillary he did a graet job of starting the ecomny back up after the oboma adminastration did about nothing even with all the hate the democrats had towards him they did nothing over the last 4 yrs but try to get him out of office so they could go on with the corupt ways nancy and her puppets all should be in prison for all the coruption they did try to impeach trump wasted millions on charges they made up hopeing others in the goverment would help them frame trump this bunch of democrats are working on trying to take our way of liveing in this country to control us to live like they want us to anybody that thinks anything of this country and our rights will not vote for biden or any democrat till the change thier way of thinking

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
If I say that a politician or his son is corrupt because he took a bribe, is that "hate speech"? It is "abusive" and I am "prejudiced" against them.

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"Kim Jong-Un speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.” An actual sitting US President said that. Let that sink in.

Add another accomplishment to ding dong donnie...

The New York Times editorial board has called President Trump the "greatest threat to American democracy since World War II."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/nyt-e...ce-world-war-ii

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"Kim Jong-Un speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.” An actual sitting US President said that. Let that sink in.

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Originally posted by Wingman66
No that term is called 'liar.'

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Originally posted by sleepy head
I'm glad we have free speech, we'd of never of been able to talk against the clan, nazi, islamic terrorist, king George, China virus etc. You sure we fight for our Bill of rights so that we can't talk negative of others or just the opposite?

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Originally posted by sleepy head
But is this hate speech

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"Kim Jong-Un speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.” An actual sitting US President said that. Let that sink in.

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Originally posted by Wingman66
It's just a typical right wing lie.

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Originally posted by Reuben
Yes Sleepy...the bill of rights in the constitution was put there because of past history...the forefathers of the new USA were trying to protect us from future corruption in our government because they new history repeats itself...

I will tell you that some folks I have met here in the USA that came from other countries said they migrated here to escape what started like socialism that turned to communism...they all sing the same song...communism sucks...

Even the cleaning lady in our office building told me she escaped communism and totally hates it...she also said she came here and has never taken a dime from the government here...she pays her taxes and contributes her share for the betterment of all...

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Originally posted by Cotton 1927
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Originally posted by Wingman66
No that term is called 'liar.'

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It's possible. Ding dong donnie and his comrades may need one also when they haul the entire lot of them out in handcuffs.

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I have to say yall got a good little support group going. Huddle together so yall can keep warm...trackdriver

"Kim Jong-Un speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.” An actual sitting US President said that. Let that sink in.

Literally every conversation I've had with a Trump hater about the upcoming election goes something like this:
Hater: I can't wait to get Donald Trump out of office.
Me: Why?
Hater: Why???? Don't tell me you don't think he colluded with Russia!
Me: According to Robert Mueller's exhaustive, 2-yr multi-million dollar investigation, there was no evidence of that. But we now have evidence that the Obama administration spied on him and his campaign using the FBI. Recently released classified documents from the DNI clearly show that John Brennan, Obama, James Comey and Joe Biden all knew that Hillary Clinton and the DNC colluded with Russians and other foreign agents to create a campaign to destroy a US President. Evidence they spied on and targeted American citizens in the process. Aren't you worried about our government trampling civil liberties and being corrupted?
Hater: Well, he said he'd repeal and replace Obamacare. What happened to that?
Me: Well, he removed the tax penalty which removes the mandate. Congress now just has to move with its replacement. He can't do it by Executive Order. Nancy Pelosi will never allow that. For her it's all political and not what's best for all of America. You do know Obama had very little to do with the writing of the ACA, right?
Hater: Well, he said he'd build a wall and Mexico was gonna pay for it. Haha. What happened to that?
Me: They've built over 300 miles of new wall so far and he's renegotiated NAFTA costing Mexico billions of dollars that were given to them by Bill Clinton through the returning of jobs in America.
Hater: Well, that's not them paying for it!
Me: The new trade agreement with Canada and Mexico has BILLIONS coming to us from Mexico. Did you think he literally meant Mexico was gonna write a check with "Wall" in the memo?
Hater: Well, he's buddy buddy with Putin and Kim Jung Un.
Me: Getting along with your adversaries is not a bad thing. Or would you prefer he antagonize them? BTW, when was the last "test missile" North Korea sent Japan's way? Aren't you aware that Trump has enacted billions in sanctions against Russia?
Hater: Well, he doesn't like the military! He called the dead soldiers "losers!"
Me: You're referring to a report made from "anonymous sources", when over nine people who were with the President have gone on record saying that it wasn't true? That doesn't send up any red flags for you? He's brought our Vets home and taken great strides to improve their benefits. He also tackled something that no previous administration has been able to do - fixing the badly broken VA. Ask any veteran you know. That's a funny way to treat people you think are "losers," don't you think?
Hater: Well, he got impeached for God's sake!
Me: Yes, impeached by a partisan House and subsequently acquitted as there was no evidence that the President did anything wrong (no quid pro quo) in his communication with the President of Ukraine. BTW, you know Joe Biden actually admitted on national TV to doing that exact thing while he was in office as VP though, right?
Hater: Well he handled COVID horribly!
Me: Experts told him we would have between 1.5 and 2 million deaths. So far it has been less than 250,000. What would you have done differently?
Hater: He didn't close the borders in time!
Me: He announce travel restrictions on 1/31 and was called racist, xenophobic, and fear monger for doing so, all the while Nancy Pelosi and Bill Deblasio were walking in Chinatown telling everyone to come on down, the water is fine.
Hater: Well, he refused to wear a mask.
Me: There are pictures and video of him wearing a mask. Do you wear a mask 24/7?
Hater: Well, that was too far after!
Me: After what? He had two of his experts on national TV every day giving updates and telling everyone to wear a mask? No he didn't. Even the "Experts" gave changing opinions and recommendations about wearing a mask.
Hater: Well, he said everything will be fine and this will end!
Me: Did you want him to run around screaming that the sky was falling? Would it be better or more honest if he had said we are never going to beat or defeat Covid-19?
Hater: Well, listen to the way he talks! He's nasty! He's not how I want my President to sound.
Me: Ahhh. NOW we're getting somewhere. You don't like his style or personality. Everything you have mentioned until now is incorrect misinformation. Everything you've mentioned up until now is because you don't like him. So for you it seems personal and not about the job he's done. So listen, if you want a President who will tell you whatever you want to hear, flip-flopping on every issue, not getting anything done his entire time while in office, but who sounds like a "nice guy" (even though he seems seriously impaired), then Joe Biden is definitely your man.

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My typical conversation with a rightwinger...

Rightwinger : but..but..but..her emails!
Me : Nice seeing you. Tell your family I said hi.

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I have to say yall got a good little support group going. Huddle together so yall can keep warm...trackdriver

"Kim Jong-Un speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.” An actual sitting US President said that. Let that sink in.