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Posted by BawlsDeep on 01-18-2017 02:41 AM:

Question

Put the producing aside a moment and answer this question: Back then hunt time was 3hrs......Who wins a Two dog cast Lipper or Rattler? Bhaa ha ha ha ha lol I recon we all know that answer!


Posted by yadkintar on 01-18-2017 02:45 AM:

Back then ? Depends witch dogs handler the judge rides to the woods with $$$$$$ you know what I mean Vern !!


Posted by BawlsDeep on 01-18-2017 02:57 AM:

lol that's the best possible answer without a pick. You did well dodging that bullet HaHaHa!


Posted by V. Cannon on 01-18-2017 06:29 AM:

I saw Lipper in a 2 dog 3 hour cast. It wasn't impressive.


Posted by Mike Knuckols on 01-18-2017 09:40 AM:

Lipper wasnt really hunted much by the age of two . How many 2 year olds today could hang with him i wonder

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Posted by CONRAD FRYAR on 01-18-2017 12:14 PM:

You can Hate, whine and cry but very few hounds can sire hounds that sound like this And then roll into a steady chop.
(This was Paulding Forest Bubba's brother)

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Posted by Triple K Kennel on 01-18-2017 12:34 PM:

Video ?

quote:
Originally posted by CONRAD FRYAR
You can Hate, whine and cry but very few hounds can sire hounds that sound like this And then roll into a steady chop.
(This was Paulding Forest Bubba's brother)




If it's a Video, I am Not seeing it ?
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Posted by yadkintar on 01-18-2017 12:34 PM:

Bad thing about it that's what they sounded when they was after a deer or hog too just before they caught it lol ! ( I am trying to keep this thread going so y'all can get the last of that seman sold were you can't hold it over our head no more lipper gona get hot , hot , hot lol )


Posted by rob thompson on 01-18-2017 12:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CONRAD FRYAR
You can Hate, whine and cry but very few hounds can sire hounds that sound like this And then roll into a steady chop.
(This was Paulding Forest Bubba's brother)


i thought they all were supposed to sound like that?


Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 01-18-2017 12:55 PM:

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The House line of dogs I have a lot of respect for. I hung my hat on them back in the early 70's a couple generations before Lipper was even born. I liked how they tracked and their temperament. I got some chocolate colored ones and I got some blue eyed ones in litters form that stock of hounds.

Lipper was an individual I could never explain in a line of dogs loved. His offspring were different than the House Line of hounds I was use to hunting. Almost like they were two different lines of hounds. I saw a lot of difference in his offspring but also a lot to things I didn't like.

I will say perhaps the best competition female I ever owned was a very heavy inbred Lipper female that treed with that loud bawl mouth but squeaked on track but very tight mouthed. I would take a dozen like her any day of the week as she made barking on the ground and trailing hounds look stupid when she sat down in the middle of them with a coon.

One Lipper hound I would of loved to own and I don't think he got a fair shake as a stud dog was "Cade". I had a pup out of him from Flynn Welch's female and he was pretty nice hound. Then again also was Flynn's female. Looked and sounded like a hound should.

In no way am I saying there weren't some good ones out of Lipper because there were some Great ones out of him.
I just don't see the need of chasing a ghost that I couldn't explain when he was here, alive and well.

I think we improve the females we are breeding to any of them and you will improve the pups you get.

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Posted by rob thompson on 01-18-2017 12:59 PM:

Female off cade ate my dog plum off a tree one night, but she was loud!!!


Posted by yadkintar on 01-18-2017 01:00 PM:

Tim tap the picture it will go to it.


Posted by Cory Highfill on 01-18-2017 01:29 PM:

Re: .

quote:
Originally posted by Bruce m. Conkey
The House line of dogs I have a lot of respect for. I hung my hat on them back in the early 70's a couple generations before Lipper was even born. I liked how they tracked and their temperament. I got some chocolate colored ones and I got some blue eyed ones in litters form that stock of hounds.

Lipper was an individual I could never explain in a line of dogs loved. His offspring were different than the House Line of hounds I was use to hunting. Almost like they were two different lines of hounds. I saw a lot of difference in his offspring but also a lot to things I didn't like.

I will say perhaps the best competition female I ever owned was a very heavy inbred Lipper female that treed with that loud bawl mouth but squeaked on track but very tight mouthed. I would take a dozen like her any day of the week as she made barking on the ground and trailing hounds look stupid when she sat down in the middle of them with a coon.

One Lipper hound I would of loved to own and I don't think he got a fair shake as a stud dog was "Cade". I had a pup out of him from Flynn Welch's female and he was pretty nice hound. Then again also was Flynn's female. Looked and sounded like a hound should.

In no way am I saying there weren't some good ones out of Lipper because there were some Great ones out of him.
I just don't see the need of chasing a ghost that I couldn't explain when he was here, alive and well.

I think we improve the females we are breeding to any of them and you will improve the pups you get.



When I was young and impressionable, I drew Cade and a Rat Attack pup on the same cast. Cade ran a haint all night and the Rat pup treed every bush we passed. Looking back I think I formed a lot of opinions I hold today on that one cast. The night before Cade had demolished a cast one of my buddies had been on, and he still talks about how good he looked. He sure had a good mouth...


Posted by John Carroll on 01-18-2017 02:07 PM:

When I was a kid I hunted a lot with a guy who was big buddies with Joe House.

He had a bunch of House bred dogs, including a few Lipper dogs.

If my memory serves me correctly, Joe wasn't a big fan of Lipper.

I sure liked the Clint dogs.

They were sensible dogs with big mouths and wanted to tree real live coons.

The Lipper dogs had that distinctive screaming mouth, and a whole different gear.

The ones that would tree,and that could be broke were dandies.

My impression was that Lipper threw a few freakishly good ones,and a ton of culls.

But the good ones were a nightmare to break and had to be hunted to death in order to get it out of them.

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Posted by John Carroll on 01-18-2017 02:21 PM:

One thing is for sure...the sucker has been dead a long time, and we are still talking about him.

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Posted by nitehunter2004 on 01-18-2017 02:32 PM:

Bruce i also owned Cade but only for a very short time!!

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Posted by yadkintar on 01-18-2017 02:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by John Carroll
One thing is for sure...the sucker has been dead a long time, and we are still talking about him.


I had a case of the chicken pocks a long time ago too but I still remember how bad they itched.


Posted by John Carroll on 01-18-2017 02:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
I had a case of the chicken pocks a long time ago too but I still remember how bad they itched.


That's funny.

Seriously, I'd hate to have to train one like some of those broncs I hunted with back then.

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Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 01-18-2017 02:52 PM:

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Tim if I had ever owned him, it might of only been for a short time also. lol But he is one I would have liked to of tried.

Out of all the good males out there he is the only one, of two or three, that I would have liked to of owned. Maybe my respect for the old line House dogs and I was looking for some of that.

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Posted by CONRAD FRYAR on 01-18-2017 03:04 PM:

Bruce I am with you on that, He is one of the few, I don't care how he hunted, he gave me what i needed in pups, I believe he was one of the best reproducing sons of Lipper period.

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Posted by CONRAD FRYAR on 01-18-2017 03:24 PM:

A 1/4 to 3/8 Lipper blood will do you good, mouth ,looks, hunt.

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Posted by nitehunter2004 on 01-18-2017 03:33 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CONRAD FRYAR
A 1/4 to 3/8 Lipper blood will do you good, mouth ,looks, hunt.

That's exactly how cade hunted and produced, like a watered down version of the Lipper traits that is talked about on this and every other Lipper thread.

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Posted by C Zink on 01-18-2017 03:46 PM:

Never hunted with him but always heard rank was pretty nice .

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Posted by Triple K Kennel on 01-18-2017 03:49 PM:

Video

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
Tim tap the picture it will go to it.


I had tried that.....didn't work.
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Posted by BigContry on 01-18-2017 06:46 PM:

BTT

Keep Lipper alive.
I enjoy reading all these Lipper post.

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