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Posted by yadkinriver on 07-31-2021 03:32 PM:

Thanks buddy you just confirmed my post. lol

Posted by benderb4 on 07-31-2021 03:42 PM:

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Typically, you left out the part about not a single one of them has died or even been hospitalized. Do you work for CNN?

I went back and "fact checked". Sorry but that article was in the Washington Post, my bad. If you read the fine print, it was a "scientific analysis" (by their scientists) of data cherry picked from CDC. Fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts actually account for 0.15% of overall Covid 19 cases. I hope that you aren't one of those mushroom people that Yadkinriver is talking about.

WRONG WRONG WRONG !!!

YES THERE WERE DEATHS !!!!

MAYBE YOU WORK FOR CNN ????

Massachusetts Confirms COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Fatalities

The fact checkers are now giving Bias misleading fact checks. THAT IS A FACT.

When you watch old DEMENTIA on video say something . Then the fact checkers try to dance around it .
It don't take much to figure it out

TWATTER is censoring ALL negative Covid articles even when coming from medical experts because they are not pushing the Jab .

WHY??? has the CDC now stopped recording breakthrough cases ?? BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE GETTING TO HIGH

Censored articles are showing the highest breakthrough cases are occurring at higher rates in the Vaccinated

Massachusetts Confirms COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Fatalities

On July 30, 2021, the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report stated, '
In July 2021, following multiple large public events in a Barnstable County, Massachusetts,
469 COVID-19 cases were identifiedamong Massachusetts residents who had visited the town during July 3–17.
There were 346 (74%) reinfected cases that occurred in fully COVID-19 vaccinated persons.

Testing identified the Delta variant in 90% of specimens from 133 patients. Cycle threshold values were similar among specimens from patients who were fully vaccinated and those who were not.'

According to data provided to MassLive by the DPH, there have been a total of 6,373 confirmed breakthrough cases, which represents 0.15% of fully vaccinated people.

Of that number,
361 fully vaccinated people were hospitalized with COVID-19 in Massachusetts, and
91 (0.002%) of fully vaccinated people with breakthrough cases died, reported Boston.com on July 30, 2021.

Once again you FAILED to fully read / investigate .

They are two completely difference stats

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Posted by Bill(Chew) on 07-31-2021 05:39 PM:

this was posted by Bender, watch and listen to this expert.
https://tv.gab.com/channel/trump_wo...c892ece58987e1d

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Posted by harleydan1956 on 07-31-2021 11:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Typically, you left out the part about not a single one of them has died or even been hospitalized. Do you work for CNN?

I went back and "fact checked". Sorry but that article was in the Washington Post, my bad. If you read the fine print, it was a "scientific analysis" (by their scientists) of data cherry picked from CDC. Fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts actually account for 0.15% of overall Covid 19 cases. I hope that you aren't one of those mushroom people that Yadkinriver is talking about.

Ummm... Post even says BOSTON HERALD... Yahoo news posted it.. and BTW... If no ill effects.. why were they tested? To see if the vaccine wore off? Why does ANYONE GET TESTED? Cause they have symptoms? You fact check about as good as CNN...

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Posted by sleepy head on 07-31-2021 11:59 PM:

Something ain't right when 75 percent of the cases are vaccinated people and percentage of the vaccinated population at the time was around 60 percent.

CDC: 74% of people infected in Massachusetts outbreak vaccinated
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Among 469 COVID-19 infections tied to a number of summer events and large public gatherings in Barnstable County, Mass., about three-quarters of cases occurred in fully vaccinated people, according to the CDC's latest Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report published July 30.

A number of large public gatherings occurred at a town in the county between July 3-17 and beginning July 10, the state's health department started receiving reports of an uptick in COVID-19 infections among fully vaccinated residents. Of 469 infections associated with the events, about 74 percent were breakthrough infections, according to the report.

A total of five people were hospitalized, including four who were fully vaccinated. No deaths were reported.

The outbreak was largely fueled by the delta variant, first detected in India and now the dominant U.S. strain. The variant was detected in 89 percent of specimens that were sequenced from 133 patients.

Additionally, specimens from vaccinated people who were infected had similar cycle threshold values to those who were unvaccinated and infected. "This might mean that the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with SARS-CoV-2 is also similar," researchers said.

Posted by sleepy head on 08-01-2021 01:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepy head
Something ain't right when 75 percent of the cases are vaccinated people and percentage of the vaccinated population at the time was around 60 percent.

CDC: 74% of people infected in Massachusetts outbreak vaccinated
Erica Carbajal - yesterday Print | Email
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Among 469 COVID-19 infections tied to a number of summer events and large public gatherings in Barnstable County, Mass., about three-quarters of cases occurred in fully vaccinated people, according to the CDC's latest Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report published July 30.

A number of large public gatherings occurred at a town in the county between July 3-17 and beginning July 10, the state's health department started receiving reports of an uptick in COVID-19 infections among fully vaccinated residents. Of 469 infections associated with the events, about 74 percent were breakthrough infections, according to the report.

A total of five people were hospitalized, including four who were fully vaccinated. No deaths were reported.

The outbreak was largely fueled by the delta variant, first detected in India and now the dominant U.S. strain. The variant was detected in 89 percent of specimens that were sequenced from 133 patients.

Additionally, specimens from vaccinated people who were infected had similar cycle threshold values to those who were unvaccinated and infected. "This might mean that the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with SARS-CoV-2 is also similar," researchers said.

Even the hospital rate was higher for the vaccinated, hopefully this is just a fluke

Posted by harleydan1956 on 08-01-2021 03:57 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepy head
Even the hospital rate was higher for the vaccinated, hopefully this is just a fluke

Richard will fact this too and tell you that you are wrong. Exactly my point, CDC is advising people to once again, mask up at public gatherings.. even fully vaccinated people. Hospitalizations have been more for vaccinated people.. remember, they believe they are safe.... Probably not as careful.. and are spreading it worse than the unvaccinated...

Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-01-2021 03:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepy head
Even the hospital rate was higher for the vaccinated, hopefully this is just a fluke

You said it yourself, just a fluke. You will always have outliers, nothing is 100%. I still don't understand why y'all are so worried about the fully vaccinated people. Why aren't y'all still warning us about our side effects? Have you seen the figures on the "long termers" who will suffer the effects of Covid for the rest of their lives?

Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-01-2021 03:14 PM:

Main stream media is just trying to scare y'all into getting vaccinated now. Don't listen to them. Stay strong until the bitter end.

Posted by harleydan1956 on 08-01-2021 05:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
You said it yourself, just a fluke. You will always have outliers, nothing is 100%. I still don't understand why y'all are so worried about the fully vaccinated people. Why aren't y'all still warning us about our side effects? Have you seen the figures on the "long termers" who will suffer the effects of Covid for the rest of their lives?

You forgot a very important word, HOPEFULLY it is a fluke.. thought you were done posting on these? And why are you so worried about us not believing you are as protected as you THINK you are?

Posted by sleepy head on 08-01-2021 06:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepy head
Even the hospital rate was higher for the vaccinated, hopefully this is just a fluke

I didn't hear any of the so called experts get asked how this could be by the libtard MSM this morning. Maybe because the only answer that still keeps the vac push alive is that there had to of been even a higher rate of infection in the vaccinated. 6 months from now these same people without a booster may be in a worse place then now

Posted by shadinc on 08-01-2021 06:57 PM:

Vaccinated or not, it's obvious to me the people calling the shots for this administration don't want the pandemic to end yet. Otherwise, the southern border would be closed.

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Posted by oklared on 08-02-2021 01:24 PM:

CNBC, CNN, REALLY

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Posted by 4play on 08-03-2021 04:45 PM:

LMAO

90% vaccinated and now this......
Hurry up get in line for unknown jab

https://gellerreport.com/2021/08/hi...spreaders.html/

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Posted by oklared on 08-03-2021 05:25 PM:

Re: LMAO

quote:
Originally posted by 4play
90% vaccinated and now this......
Hurry up get in line for unknown jab

LIKE WHEN YOU WERE IN MILITARY OR GETTIN VAC TO GO TO SCHOOL, OR LEAVE THE COUNTRY LOL

https://gellerreport.com/2021/08/hi...spreaders.html/

Posted by 4play on 08-03-2021 06:39 PM:

LOL

Those were tested and studied for YEARS and.....ok'd by FDA
Obviously the crap they are trying force on US wasn't and don't.

Did you even read the results,facts in article or just type and click?
90% vaccinated and now are the biggest carriers and still getting the 'plandemic'

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Posted by yadkinriver on 08-03-2021 09:07 PM:

Richard haven't heard anything out of you lately. Are you ok? not feeling bad are ya? Don't be scared we've just been picking on you. Wear your mask and don't go anywhere and you should be ok.

Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-04-2021 02:08 PM:

Actually, the people who are fully vaccinated and do get a breakthrough case are in the best shape. They will only get a mild case with usually almost no symptoms. Then they will have the strongest natural immunity/antibodies and can't get Covid ever again. So if you are fully vaccinated, you need to get out and mingle with the unvaccinated to try and get a breakthrough case. That is a lot better than a booster shot that y'all are so worried about.

Posted by 4play on 08-04-2021 02:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Actually, the people who are fully vaccinated and do get a breakthrough case are in the best shape. They will only get a mild case with usually almost no symptoms. Then they will have the strongest natural immunity/antibodies and can't get Covid ever again. So if you are fully vaccinated, you need to get out and mingle with the unvaccinated to try and get a breakthrough case.

Lol,so now you say it's ok to be vaccinated and know your gonna get Covid regardless? Makes perfect sense......lol

Friend of mine wife is fully vaccinated.Still got Covid and was sick as He.ll. Sicker than he was un-vaccinated.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-04-2021 04:35 PM:

Did she die? Was she hospitalized? There is always that one outlier. More than 630,000 unvaccinated people have died.

What I actually said was that you should go out and try to get Covid. You might not be able to.

Posted by sleepy head on 08-04-2021 05:34 PM:

Here is an example of the stupidity of some, the fully vaccinated guy comes into work Friday, spends the weekend in the hospital with covid, Monday the guy is seen by a friend of mine in the local grocery

Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-04-2021 07:50 PM:

Here is another example... An unvaccinated guy goes into work every day and then goes to the grocery store on the weekend.

If you are worried, get vaccinated. If you don't care don't get vaccinated. But quit griping about everything and worrying about the people who did get vaccinated.

Posted by benderb4 on 08-04-2021 07:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Actually, the people who are fully vaccinated and do get a breakthrough case are in the best shape. They will only get a mild case with usually almost no symptoms. Then they will have the strongest natural immunity/antibodies and can't get Covid ever again. So if you are fully vaccinated, you need to get out and mingle with the unvaccinated to try and get a breakthrough case. That is a lot better than a booster shot that y'all are so worried about.

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Posted by sleepy head on 08-04-2021 08:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Here is another example... An unvaccinated guy goes into work every day and then goes to the grocery store on the weekend.

If you are worried, get vaccinated. If you don't care don't get vaccinated. But quit griping about everything and worrying about the people who did get vaccinated.

That's the problem, being vaccinated in giving the idiots false seen of not getting china virus and becoming the super spreaders they are. The vaccinated with a brain also consider the guy stupid

Posted by Randy Williams on 08-04-2021 08:35 PM:

We were working on a peach farm this am. 18 wheeler came in to get loaded. The driver got out & mingled with probably 50 workers, including us. Then he got sick and told us that his entire family was sick with the covid. I am vaccinated, if that means anything, but my other 2 carpenters are not. I'm not worried at all for me cause I also have plenty of ivermectin on hand and taking vitamin D. P.S., just so yall know, I'M on Richards side,I think the vacs are a good thing for people like me, I also hunt Redbones!

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