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Posted by novicane65 on 09-22-2019 12:55 AM:

Because back in the 3rd or 4th hen they added bluetick into the strain. Same as some other good dogs.

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Posted by berger on 09-22-2019 01:21 AM:

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Originally posted by Preacher Tom
Honest question. Not trying to be smart. How or why are 2 dogs shown as TW really crossbred?

Half breed Jessi was single registered as a walker in UKC back in the day before Xbred. Her littermate brother was single registered as a Bluetick. They were out of a Gr Nt Bluetick male and gr Nt walker female.

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Posted by Preacher Tom on 09-22-2019 01:28 AM:

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Originally posted by berger
Half breed Jessi was single registered as a walker in UKC back in the day before Xbred. Her littermate brother was single registered as a Bluetick. They were out of a Gr Nt Bluetick male and gr Nt walker female.

Thanks for the info. I figured that's what it was but wondered if I had missed something.

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Posted by novicane65 on 09-22-2019 01:28 AM:

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Originally posted by berger
Half breed Jessi was single registered as a walker in UKC back in the day before Xbred. Her littermate brother was single registered as a Bluetick. They were out of a Gr Nt Bluetick male and gr Nt walker female.

Correct, and that's the same cross that's back in on Trader.

Posted by Preacher Tom on 09-22-2019 01:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by berger
Half breed Jessi was single registered as a walker in UKC back in the day before Xbred. Her littermate brother was single registered as a Bluetick. They were out of a Gr Nt Bluetick male and gr Nt walker female.

Thanks for the info. I figured that's what it was but wondered if I had missed something.

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Posted by thomasg on 09-22-2019 04:07 AM:

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Originally posted by novicane65
Correct, and that's the same cross that's back in on Trader.

also pinner and starving cull if my memory is still intact '

Posted by Dave Richards on 09-22-2019 04:38 AM:

Ace

Winning 2nd place in the World Hunt, 1st without that bobble on 1 tree. Wish I had one if those xbred junk dogs, I am just happy to see that some don't consider them junk. Lol. Dave

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 09-22-2019 02:55 PM:

Oh my goodness, Ace's great great great granddaddy was a bluetick? I understand why he is a 'PR' dog now. Does an off color dog that far back make him a cross bred? After all, UKC says that he is a Purple Ribbon bred walker. And who in the world ever said that Ace was "Junk"?

Posted by pigsit on 09-22-2019 03:00 PM:

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Originally posted by yadkintar
Unless you enter them in the performance program where you have to dna them nobody will ever know. Many walker breeders had a bird dog on the premises. Those bird dogs could hustle all day long in the heat of summer and could pinpoint a bird from 50 yrds away with accuracy. Wiemeraners bird dogs were mixed with redbones that’s where the Smokey color and natural bob tails come from.

Tar

Tar, you don't really believe this crap, do Ya, it's just something you like to post for the Newbies.

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Posted by yadkintar on 09-22-2019 05:30 PM:

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Tar, you don't really believe this crap, do Ya, it's just something you like to post for the Newbies.

You been at it as long as me I can tell you in the walker bloodlines were some of the hanky panky was ! And sombody let it slide because it would cost them to much to fix it. The dna ain’t right on a lot of dogs.

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Posted by pigsit on 09-22-2019 07:57 PM:

There might have been some shady stuff going on, but it didn't have anything to do with bird dogs.

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Posted by Sgraves on 09-22-2019 08:08 PM:

Grandma would make us pies an cakes . Most the time they were good . She would slip up an make one that wasn’t up to par. We didn’t dare ask what she pup in it . We kept our mouth shut an ate it. Because the good outweighed the bad.

Posted by yadkintar on 09-22-2019 08:15 PM:

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Originally posted by pigsit
There might have been some shady stuff going on, but it didn't have anything to do with bird dogs.

How you know ? If I hadn’t seen it I wouldn’t have said it 😂 I know where one is right now 😂

Tar

Posted by Preacher Tom on 09-22-2019 08:48 PM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by pigsit
There might have been some shady stuff going on, but it didn't have anything to do with bird dogs. [/QUOT

40 to 50 years ago there were quite a few 1/2 and 1/4 birddogs that were real coon dogs. Some didn't open much but hide hunters loved them. I always thought that is where we lost some of the ear off our dogs.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 09-22-2019 08:58 PM:

Tar

Some folks are still in denial about what really went on, it happened in all parts if the country. It was not just behind the barn breeding, false papers were put on dogs just to hunt in the registered hunts. Honest men were often victims of such practices. Dave

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Posted by LoggyBayouBlues on 09-22-2019 09:17 PM:

Re: Tar

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
Some folks are still in denial about what really went on, it happened in all parts if the country. It was not just behind the barn breeding, false papers were put on dogs just to hunt in the registered hunts. Honest men were often victims of such practices. Dave

Were you one of those behind the barn, paper swapping, Dog Jockey's?

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Posted by Dave Richards on 09-22-2019 09:39 PM:

John

No, but I have been a victim buying a dog with false papers. I never traded or sold dogs. When I had one that did not suit me, I gave it away. Dogs were my hobby, I made a very good living in my professional career. Now tell us about yourself, were you a dog jockey? Dave

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Posted by stevwallace on 09-22-2019 10:07 PM:

Riggens White Knight ...think that was his name ..heck of bird dog ..any you guys ever heard of him ...

Posted by LoggyBayouBlues on 09-22-2019 10:47 PM:

Re: John

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
No, but I have been a victim buying a dog with false papers. I never traded or sold dogs. When I had one that did not suit me, I gave it away. Dogs were my hobby, I made a very good living in my professional career. Now tell us about yourself, were you a dog jockey? Dave

No! I'm not an expert, like you are!

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Posted by yadkintar on 09-22-2019 10:48 PM:

Anybody want to go with one that has some bird dog in them ? Trees more coons in the daytime than most dogs tree at night. Looks like a blue English has a big ole bawl mouth come on down I will take you with him ( he’s not mine ). Anouther one wins a lot of $$$ hunts in the northern Oklahoma area.

They just don’t talk about it they just win.

Tar

Posted by Dave Richards on 09-22-2019 11:09 PM:

John

I am no expert, but I am someone that has some knowledge of our hound breeds and how they got where they are. Some folks like yourself just run their mouth without any facts to back them up. Some say ignorance is bliss, not me! Knowledge is the real power, those who choose to believe that shady things did not happen or that their purebred stock is Lily white are in denial. If speaking out on this subject causes some to be butt hurt, then so be it. Dave

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Posted by stevwallace on 09-22-2019 11:55 PM:

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Originally posted by yadkintar
Anybody want to go with one that has some bird dog in them ? Trees more coons in the daytime than most dogs tree at night. Looks like a blue English has a big ole bawl mouth come on down I will take you with him ( he’s not mine ). Anouther one wins a lot of $$$ hunts in the northern Oklahoma area.

They just don’t talk about it they just win.

Tar

Back in 70's We had one of those short ears blue looking hounds; real tree dog. Couple of pups out of him would point. What you guys think going happen when "yote" hunters cross grey hound with their hound and then one of pups goes to treeing coons?? Then gets in "right" or "wrong" hands. Now that's some speed!!

Posted by Dave Richards on 09-23-2019 12:45 AM:

Tar

Lol. The truth will set you free, or might just hurt your feelings. Dave

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Posted by yadkintar on 09-23-2019 12:53 AM:

Re: Tar

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
Lol. The truth will set you free, or might just hurt your feelings. Dave

A lot of my pups are born with back dew claws so what does that mean lol.

Tar

Posted by Sgraves on 09-23-2019 12:57 AM:

Re: Re: Tar

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Originally posted by yadkintar
A lot of my pups are born with back dew claws so what does that mean lol.

Tar

Tar , I was always told that back dew claws were used for getting a toe hold while digging possums an skunk out of ditch banks. Dog locks it into 4 wheel drive so to speak.

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