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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 03-22-2022 05:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Neo-Nazi??? You do know that he is Jewish, don't you? What country invaded Ukraine? Who are they fighting against? What country was backing those political parties that he banned? Their candidates were Putin puppets. Wasn't one of them tried and convicted of selling Ukrainian military secrets to Russia? Yes I did read the article.
No country has as much freedom as our country. It is hard to compare them to ours. Why should the Ukrainian people have to suffer because their government doesn't meet your standards. They are at war and have no police departments left. I would expect them to turn to martial law and curfews.

"Neo-Nazi"... oh my goodness, that is right up there with "weapons of war"... You have been listening to Putin's propaganda.

The Neo-Nazi's are there and you seem to be one of the only ones who do not admit their existence. You may want to do a little bit of research before you post. The US, UN, Ukraine, EU ect, ect all know. Heck even Facebook lifted a ban on them the day of the Russian invasion.
As for Ukraine and these groups they are both using each other. How does the saying go .... the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
As for Zelensky banning political parties, 11 of them, he is a tyrant/want to be dictator! He's using this war to rid Ukraine of voices and groups that don't agree with him, that is not democracy, in fact far from it. The one party he banned holds 47 seats in their parliament! It also denounced the Russian invasion, these are not traitors they are his biggest opposition. Compare it to many of us with Biden's agenda and that of liberal democrats. Martial law and curfews is one thing but banning 11 political parties and combining all news under one government given narrative is another. He is no better than Putin and being propped up by the globalist who have their own agenda.

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 03-22-2022 05:56 PM:

https://youtu.be/oifqp1bJp8Y
Tucker on this very subject last night.

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-22-2022 06:47 PM:

Oh my goodness, have you forgotten 2016-2020? Did the opposition party not try to have their opposition, our President impeached and arrested with absolutely no credible evidence of wrongdoing? Did they not attempt to control the news media and disseminate false propaganda? Everything that you are accusing Zelenski of, the democrats have done or attempted to do. If they had at least a 55% majority, they would have succeeded. Forty per cent of Americans even think that they rigged the election in 2020. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Oh yeah, I wonder how many Neo Nazis there are in the US and if they have any influence whatsoever on anything?

Is this about Ukraine's politics or the fact that Russia invaded a smaller country that is our friend and ally. This is about Russia killing innocent civillians and cemetery destroying their country.. Are you forgetting that we promised to protect them if anyone attacked them in the 1994 Budapest Agreement?

Posted by 4play on 03-22-2022 07:19 PM:

Go to

RT Tv website

You'll hear plenty about 'New world order"

Putins reason for invading Ukraine.

All around Sleepy Demented Biden and his corrupt family

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-22-2022 07:23 PM:

Some people keep talking about "Neo-Nazis". Putin said that the Ukrainians were Neo-Nazis. I guess that I don't understand. Exactly what is a "Neo-Nazi"? Now I know that Nazi's were a political party in Germany back before and during the War. But why are some calling people "Neo-Nazis" now?

Posted by Redneck Mafia on 03-22-2022 07:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Oh my goodness, have you forgotten 2016-2020? Did the opposition party not try to have their opposition, our President impeached and arrested with absolutely no credible evidence of wrongdoing? Did they not attempt to control the news media and disseminate false propaganda? Everything that you are accusing Zelenski of, the democrats have done or attempted to do. If they had at least a 55% majority, they would have succeeded. Forty per cent of Americans even think that they rigged the election in 2020. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

That was my point. Far from the democracy they all preach about. Zelensky is not the Saint he's being made out to be.

What separates us and the other Nato nations from leaders like Putin?
We cry democracy and oh the poor people when it suits our powers that be agenda. They use our heart strings to further it.

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-22-2022 10:13 PM:

There is no such thing as a "perfect" democracy, whether it is USA, England, Canada, Mexico, France, Germany or Ukraine. I don't think that anyone ever implied that there was. I also don't think that because Ukraine does not have a perfect democracy is any reason to go back on our promise to protect them.

If you don't think that there is a difference or can't see the difference between the US and Russia/Putin, then there is no hope. It is no wonder that you are so afraid of the Big Bad Reset Boogy Man.

Posted by 4play on 03-25-2022 02:41 PM:

Hmmm

Tucker Carlson said last night Russia took over BIO LABS that USA has in Ukraine.

Sounded like we left whatever 'we' were doing in them.

Didn't know or even know why USA would have 'Bio Labs' in Ukraine.

Putin gonna throw USA under the bus on this?
There is more to his reason.
Check out RT TV website you'll hear a different view.I didn't want believe it until I looked into it myself.

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Posted by Triple K Kennel on 03-25-2022 03:12 PM:

Re: Hmmm

quote:
Originally posted by 4play
Tucker Carlson said last night Russia took over BIO LABS that USA has in Ukraine.

Sounded like we left whatever 'we' were doing in them.

Didn't know or even know why USA would have 'Bio Labs' in Ukraine.

Putin gonna throw USA under the bus on this?
There is more to his reason.
Check out RT TV website you'll hear a different view.I didn't want believe it until I looked into it myself.

Another Fake story started by Putin and his Cronies & now being pushed by Tucker & Fox News.........All Fake.
Putin also said that Russia had destroyed 7 of the 11 Bio Labs.....Also Fake.

Tucker needs to stop listening to Putin......😉😁😁

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Posted by 4play on 03-25-2022 03:32 PM:

Re: Re: Hmmm

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
Another Fake story started by Putin and his Cronies & now being pushed by Tucker & Fox News.........All Fake.
Putin also said that Russia had destroyed 7 of the 11 Bio Labs.....Also Fake.

Tucker needs to stop listening to Putin......😉😁😁

Tim

You need to get off USA 'filtered' news and media

Go to RT TV website.Different view than what we are spoon fed

Btw; I'll believe Tucker/Hannity over ANY USA news/media outlet

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Posted by Triple K Kennel on 03-25-2022 10:28 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Hmmm

quote:
Originally posted by 4play
You need to get off USA 'filtered' news and media

Go to RT TV website.Different view than what we are spoon fed

Btw; I'll believe Tucker/Hannity over ANY USA news/media outlet

Nope.....I don't listen to any of the News....Especially Tucker & Fox News.
There aren't any Good News Channels like were around when I grew up. All of them nowadays are just like Politicians.....they only tell you what they want you to hear....😉🙄
Tim

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-26-2022 04:04 PM:

Doesn't RT TV tell you what they want you to hear? You just agree with them. You have to listen to all of them and pick out the facts and filter out the opinions. They all want to report their opinions as facts. News shows are just entertainment now.

Posted by JesseJ on 03-26-2022 06:36 PM:

Not entertaining to me I don�t watch any of them!😁

Posted by Reuben on 03-27-2022 03:27 PM:

Dr. Oz was in the Hannity show the other night�and in less than five minutes he said exactly what needed to happen in the USA to take this country back to the top�

What�s working against us is huge and many of us are like sheep with blinders�

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Posted by Robert Johnson on 03-28-2022 12:59 PM:

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Originally posted by Reuben
Dr. Oz was in the Hannity show the other night�and in less than five minutes he said exactly what needed to happen in the USA to take this country back to the top�

What�s working against us is huge and many of us are like sheep with blinders�

would one rather follow sheep or be in the company of the sheep dog? Ask yourself that when you go to the polls in next election. I promise you i know which one the wolf will tell you to vote with, and yes, the wolf is at our door.

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Posted by Reuben on 03-29-2022 03:48 AM:

The sheep are many�the sheep dogs are few and the wolves outnumber the sheep dogs 10 to 1�

I say we can rid ourselves of the wolves�we just need unity and change a few laws that insures transparency and the ability to prosecute white collar criminals and politicians who break the law�

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Posted by Reuben on 03-29-2022 10:23 PM:

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-30-2022 03:35 AM:

I wonder why Biden doesn't sanction the Russian Mafia? Maybe they are part of the Great Reset.

Posted by Rex Ridge on 03-31-2022 12:42 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Reuben
Dr. Oz was in the Hannity show the other night�and in less than five minutes he said exactly what needed to happen in the USA to take this country back to the top�

What�s working against us is huge and many of us are like sheep with blinders�

Dr Oz is running for Senator here. Haven't made up my mind on who I'm voting for yet, but we did like what he was saying when he was campaigning here early this month.

Posted by Reuben on 03-31-2022 02:49 AM:

Shaun Hannity said tonight what I been saying�the Bidens have their hands tied on account of their underhanded dealing with Russia and China�if they are getting blackmailed then that explains all the smokescreens�smokescreens to keep the blackmailing at bay and at the expense of our nation�the Bidens should be in prison..

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-31-2022 04:24 AM:

Hands tied behind his back??? What did Hannity say about Joe saying that someone should take Putin out? What did Hannity say about the sanctions against Putin and the Oligarchs personally? Now I don't disagree that Hunter for sure and maybe Joe should be prosecuted but Joe is definitely going after Putin. I bet that Putin realizes that he has been double crossed.

Posted by sleepy head on 03-31-2022 12:34 PM:

Why would someone one think that China, Russia doesn't know Biden has to talk tough? And go off script to do it, Biden has been playing ball with these people for 40 years, they all know the game

Posted by Reuben on 03-31-2022 04:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepy head
Why would someone one think that China, Russia doesn't know Biden has to talk tough? And go off script to do it, Biden has been playing ball with these people for 40 years, they all know the game

But the sheep are catching on�🧐
The polls will reflect that�

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 04-06-2022 02:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
The Neo-Nazi's are there and you seem to be one of the only ones who do not admit their existence. You may want to do a little bit of research before you post. The US, UN, Ukraine, EU ect, ect all know. Heck even Facebook lifted a ban on them the day of the Russian invasion.
As for Ukraine and these groups they are both using each other. How does the saying go .... the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
As for Zelensky banning political parties, 11 of them, he is a tyrant/want to be dictator! He's using this war to rid Ukraine of voices and groups that don't agree with him, that is not democracy, in fact far from it. The one party he banned holds 47 seats in their parliament! It also denounced the Russian invasion, these are not traitors they are his biggest opposition. Compare it to many of us with Biden's agenda and that of liberal democrats. Martial law and curfews is one thing but banning 11 political parties and combining all news under one government given narrative is another. He is no better than Putin and being propped up by the globalist who have their own agenda.

Russian soldiers have now set up mobile crematoriums to burn and destroy the bodies of all the civillians that they are killing. Who are the neo nazis? Can you say genocide? The Ukrainians that are not being raped, tortured and shot are being starved to death.

Posted by Richard Lambert on 04-14-2022 03:36 PM:

Oh my goodness, the Ukrainians blew up a Russian Naval ship that was shelling civilians in one of their coastal cities. They used a missle that we gave them. Go Ukranians....

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