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Posted by Pioneer on 11-05-2010 04:14 PM:

Steve

I know what you mean Steve. However, that litter is starting really early. All the reports back from guys seem to say something similar. It is hard to believe I know. I would have told ya you are crazy myself! Another thing, where that pup is being hunted at is at the holy grail of coon hunting! Mel has some great hunting up there for starting pups.
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Posted by crazy chasers on 11-05-2010 07:38 PM:

steve

Stroker the young male u have I sold terry. Stroker was treeing his own 6.5 months. With and without help. I have about half dozen people that seen scouty do it young and alone split. Steve called nautural early starting coon hounds this not in everyhound. Most blueticks take a year or so lol.
Randy when u want to get together and hunt let me know. And congrats on the reproductive side of that cross

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Posted by smmm302 on 11-06-2010 11:54 PM:

Fellas,

to answer some of the questions, Randy and I went hunting last night we took my 2 yr old and a 6 month old out of joker x kate. at first she didnt do a whole lot, took her awhile to go out, then they both split, she had two coons and mine had a den, then we shot the coon to her, she fought it, and we went to another spot, and they spilt again, she had a den and troop had a coon, the we truned loose again, and they treed together. Aint saying she will tree all night long yet, but looked real good and aint afraid of coons. I have seen alot less out of nt ch and grntch. Trust me Steve I have been the biggest critic of a dog that age doing it on its own. But the walker men have been beating their chest for years about making dogs nt ch and gr nt by 9 mnths, 1 yr etc. now I have finally seen that potential out of an english dog.

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Posted by tom edwards on 11-07-2010 01:39 PM:

Randy

Charlie is home sick, going to give him a while to get used to me. BOATER had his first nite hunt last nite .Had second strike first coon ,they caught it on the ground. Redbone kept strike open had to strike back in for 25, first tree had the coon . Fist strike on next coon ,track blew up withdrew him had alittle rough dog on the cast and he don't need that rite now. Give us this coon season and we will be in the winner circle. Steve those JOKER X KATE pups are really something aren't they ? I have had two people call me wanting to buy this one ,she is not for sale at any price now. Joe what I have seen they don't get any better,they are outstanding for thier age. One more week and our season starts and I know of two dogs that will be losing some weight along with thier owner.Mark ,I hope I can kill a big one for you but who knows. And again good luck to you and Randy with OLD JOKER he's a good one SEE YOU ON DOWN THE ROAD TOM

Posted by TERRY GOFORTH on 11-08-2010 10:22 AM:

post

This post is like ready a Timthy Ball ad!!

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Posted by Steve Raleigh on 11-08-2010 04:36 PM:

Re: steve

quote:
Originally posted by crazy chasers
Stroker the young male u have I sold terry. Stroker was treeing his own 6.5 months. With and without help. I have about half dozen people that seen scouty do it young and alone split. Steve called nautural early starting coon hounds this not in everyhound. Most blueticks take a year or so lol.
Randy when u want to get together and hunt let me know. And congrats on the reproductive side of that cross

Chase,
Not really sure how to take your post, but I have a blue dog that if Stroker would ever make half the hound he is I will be happy...and I wouldnt care how early they do or do not start....its the finished product that counts...

Aside from that blue dog comment I have been hunting Stroker since the zones and I have seen nothing that would validate your comments out of the dog!! With or without company.

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Posted by Steve Raleigh on 11-08-2010 07:18 PM:

Re: Randy

quote:
Originally posted by tom edwards
Charlie is home sick, going to give him a while to get used to me. BOATER had his first nite hunt last nite .Had second strike first coon ,they caught it on the ground. Redbone kept strike open had to strike back in for 25, first tree had the coon . Fist strike on next coon ,track blew up withdrew him had alittle rough dog on the cast and he don't need that rite now. Give us this coon season and we will be in the winner circle. Steve those JOKER X KATE pups are really something aren't they ? I have had two people call me wanting to buy this one ,she is not for sale at any price now. Joe what I have seen they don't get any better,they are outstanding for thier age. One more week and our season starts and I know of two dogs that will be losing some weight along with thier owner.Mark ,I hope I can kill a big one for you but who knows. And again good luck to you and Randy with OLD JOKER he's a good one SEE YOU ON DOWN THE ROAD TOM

Tommy,
I don't have the slightest clue how the "JOKER X KATE" pups are....But you people that sit on here bragging them up and telling us how great they are and treeing coon consistently by themselves and that they "ARE NOT FOR SALE AT ANY PRICE NOW" is just feeding the rest of these coon hunters that read this thread with a boat load of hot air....This is not my first rodeo Tommy!!

Not sure if you guys have never had pups that have "started" young or what to get you all excited and exaggerating like this....With the breeding of hounds these days its not difficult to get pups to start at the 5-6month old age BUT there is a big difference between a young dog at that age that runs and trees with an old dog and one that does it by itself.

Posted by jacie on 11-08-2010 10:04 PM:

Steve

Come over for a hunt and i will show you. I very happy with my two pups. Ryan Ramey finished Rosie too nite champion sat nite. Thank Ryan and Mark .

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Posted by Thomas Echelberger on 11-09-2010 12:27 AM:

Steve Raleigh

What ? I met you in mineral and walked along with your cast , and you road with us , do you remember Chase and im his father . Ok you have Stroker he came from my female , half the liter was treeing at 7 months old and split treeing . I used to have Blue tic's the Vaughn breed and Chase and us had plenty of Blue dogs . So how can you honestly claim they will hunt even close to the quallity of these English dogs ? Man you are funny , Stroker was hunting good before you got him . If Chase would not have had to move he would have not been for sale . We seen what he can do , so if he won't hunt now maybe it's you . Randy and Tom Edward have some fine , young starting hounds . Show me a Blue Tic that can tree one at 8 months old and it would be a very , very special one , even with help .

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Posted by smmm302 on 11-09-2010 01:04 AM:

Steve R.

quote:
Originally posted by smmm302
to answer some of the questions, Randy and I went hunting last night we took my 2 yr old and a 6 month old out of joker x kate. at first she didnt do a whole lot, took her awhile to go out, then they both split, she had two coons and mine had a den, then we shot the coon to her, she fought it, and we went to another spot, and they spilt again, she had a den and troop had a coon, the we truned loose again, and they treed together. Aint saying she will tree all night long yet, but looked real good and aint afraid of coons. I have seen alot less out of nt ch and grntch. Trust me Steve I have been the biggest critic of a dog that age doing it on its own. But the walker men have been beating their chest for years about making dogs nt ch and gr nt by 9 mnths, 1 yr etc. now I have finally seen that potential out of an english dog.

Steve, I know you can read, and I know you seen where I said she split treed twice. and had two coons in one tree and a den in another. So I am gonna assume you are calling me a liar. Not sure why? I do not own any part of that female and give two shits less what she does or is, I am just stating the facts. Tell ya what, If I am wrong and you arent calling me a liar, then correct me. otherwise come up and hunt and you can see, the way I see it as of right now you aint no different then the guys you are saying "blowing smoke" you are talking crap about something you have knowledge of it to be truth or not. And in the process you are calling people liars that have no beef with you and not sure why you would have beef with me? maybe you can help me understand.

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Posted by phillipedwards on 11-09-2010 01:39 AM:

young dogs

smmm302 my buddy had aenglish female that was from his stock of 15yrs that he made gr nite at 12 months old so it can be done by english myself i like to start them young then lay them up then back at at about 1.5 yrs old like i have done my sons joker pup shes little over 3 now and doing great .

Posted by smmm302 on 11-09-2010 02:13 AM:

Oh I love them

And i seen that six month old do a real nice job the other night. But some people on here like to think their **** dont stink and they have the only show in town. Joker is throwing some nice hounds, his half brother Bo is also. Seems some people just like stirrin up crap, stead of just getting along. I will always hunt english and will always hunt the line I am hunting now. Joker is throwing some early startin COONdogs.

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Posted by TERRY GOFORTH on 11-09-2010 09:43 AM:

smmm302

Steve I dont think Iam the only show in town. I didnt see you at the last two hunts. Only ten miles from our house. You call me and said you was comeing. I know why Randy wasnt there. I also know that Joker is throwing some dogs. But you and Tom make Joker look bad when you do nothing but blow. Just like a Timthy Ball ad. His pups will do the the talking if they get in the the hunts and not on the key board.

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Posted by Turman_Creek on 11-09-2010 12:39 PM:

Who do i call to edit what I say on RANDY post!

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Posted by smmm302 on 11-09-2010 01:21 PM:

Terry,

never said you thought you was the only show in town, but your handlers act like you are. You might want to put a muzzle on them as all they do is stir up crap, all I do is blow? I got junior qualified for the world and put another place on him. As for the not being at the hunts, you know I have been having family problems cause I told you that the day we talked. I am a husband, brother and son first, and a coonhunter second. My family takes priority over my dogs. or putting a dog on the reproducing list.

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Posted by smmm302 on 11-09-2010 01:29 PM:

Terry.

You need more handlers like Ryan WHittaker, he doesnt say much but wins. I give him the utmost respect for that. and Steve R. you might wanna do some more winning with the english dogs before you start calling people out. and I will tell you as I have always told Terry, you are welcome to hunt with me anynight, I dont think a nite hunt shows how good a dog is, it a combination of the handler and the dog. A good pleasure hunt is when you can see how good a dog is. Terry, I dont know why you cant just relax and get along. I have always been nice to you and when I seen bo was on the reproducing list I even called and congratulated you.

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Posted by TERRY GOFORTH on 11-09-2010 02:50 PM:

summ302

Steve,If you read the past post when you said lets go hunting. I try to get you to go for two weeks. You never show up. Thats all right. You call me and was cry about Jr and Randy. You sold him and Randy didnt pay you. Randy works his butt off on his dogs. Try to get them in hunts every weeken. It mite take him 40 nt.ch. cast to gr. them out but he still did it. Give him some help. All you have been doing the last year is Blowing. Ready our post from the past. Joker pups will talk for them selfs, if you do right. Not blow.

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Posted by Steve Raleigh on 11-09-2010 04:23 PM:

Re: Steve R.

quote:
Originally posted by smmm302
Steve, I know you can read, and I know you seen where I said she split treed twice. and had two coons in one tree and a den in another. So I am gonna assume you are calling me a liar. Not sure why? I do not own any part of that female and give two shits less what she does or is, I am just stating the facts. Tell ya what, If I am wrong and you arent calling me a liar, then correct me. otherwise come up and hunt and you can see, the way I see it as of right now you aint no different then the guys you are saying "blowing smoke" you are talking crap about something you have knowledge of it to be truth or not. And in the process you are calling people liars that have no beef with you and not sure why you would have beef with me? maybe you can help me understand.

First of all Steve I'm really not sure why you are directing your comments to me as I said nothing to or about you in my previous posts...My posts were directed to Tommy and Chase...Not sure if you are reading into or making conclusions that there were subliminal messages in my post? Honestly Steve I am not calling you a liar...I don't care what breed you hunt, you can change breeds every 8-12months like you have in past makes no difference to me hunt what you like.

Posted by Steve Raleigh on 11-09-2010 04:40 PM:

Re: Terry.

quote:
Originally posted by smmm302
You need more handlers like Ryan WHittaker, he doesnt say much but wins. I give him the utmost respect for that. and Steve R. you might wanna do some more winning with the english dogs before you start calling people out. and I will tell you as I have always told Terry, you are welcome to hunt with me anynight, I dont think a nite hunt shows how good a dog is, it a combination of the handler and the dog. A good pleasure hunt is when you can see how good a dog is. Terry, I dont know why you cant just relax and get along. I have always been nice to you and when I seen bo was on the reproducing list I even called and congratulated you.

Once again Steve I am not sure why you are reading into my posts and twisting my words....I have said nothing about Joker or questioned his reproducing or called people liars or whatever it is you can possibly fathum about my posts. Or how you think I need to win more with the "English breed" before I call ppl out...Plain and simple show me these 5-7month old pups doing it on their own and I will adjust and correct my comments. Show me the fire and not the smoke. And Steve if you have a 5-7month old pup out of ANY dog in ANY breed that is doing it on its own, then I want to go hunting with you and will do so ANY night....Unless you have that then you have no business directing or saying anything to me about this matter.

If your claim is about an older pup doing nice or doing it on its own well then thats wonderful, I could really care less to be honest with you...the whole point of my comment is pups doing it on their own at the age mentioned above.

Posted by Steve Raleigh on 11-09-2010 04:47 PM:

Re: Steve Raleigh

quote:
Originally posted by tooooe
What ? I met you in mineral and walked along with your cast , and you road with us , do you remember Chase and im his father . Ok you have Stroker he came from my female , half the liter was treeing at 7 months old and split treeing . I used to have Blue tic's the Vaughn breed and Chase and us had plenty of Blue dogs . So how can you honestly claim they will hunt even close to the quallity of these English dogs ? Man you are funny , Stroker was hunting good before you got him . If Chase would not have had to move he would have not been for sale . We seen what he can do , so if he won't hunt now maybe it's you . Randy and Tom Edward have some fine , young starting hounds . Show me a Blue Tic that can tree one at 8 months old and it would be a very , very special one , even with help .

Nobody is questioning Stroker treeing or hunting I'm not sure where you can possibly fathum I made any comments like that...Maybe if you knew the facts you would not have made this post.

Facts: I have seen the dog on 42 trees alone and under 0 coons...thats hunting with or without company, I do not and am not counting any trees that he was treed on with an older dog.
So....from those facts that I have mentioned I have seen nothing to validate this pup treeing his own coon at 6.5months old....BUT what I can validate is that there is no doubt in my mind he was treeing at that age even treeing alone.

Posted by Steve Raleigh on 11-09-2010 06:54 PM:

Re: Steve R

quote:
Originally posted by tom edwards
I don't own any part of JOKER anymore, but still think JOKer is as good of a reproducer as there is out there. And no she is not for sale at any price.do not really care about money just what is right and she is right . Now on the other hand do'nt ever say anything about CHARLIE he is still half mine and allways will be unless I get sicker and can't hunt him. In which case I will give him back to Randy. And these pups do tree real live coons by there self,like Dave says throw your wallet or purse on the hood and we will take you hunting TOM So leave the old man alone

Well Tommy I'm not sure why you are bringing up Joker or Charlie for that matter??? I really didnt want to get into this about Joker or Charlie or say anything about the two dogs buuuuuut I guess ya just couldnt keep the trap shut and the opprotunity looks waaaay too rewarding for me

.... since you got defensive and couldnt leave those dogs out of it I will take any bet you are offering with YOUR dog Charlie that YOU own half of.....Lets make the stakes 100 bucks a coon

Posted by Steve Raleigh on 11-09-2010 07:04 PM:

Re: steve

quote:
Originally posted by crazy chasers
Stroker the young male u have I sold terry. Stroker was treeing his own 6.5 months. With and without help. I have about half dozen people that seen scouty do it young and alone split. Steve called nautural early starting coon hounds this not in everyhound. Most blueticks take a year or so lol.
Randy when u want to get together and hunt let me know. And congrats on the reproductive side of that cross

As most of you can see I am rather bored at work today lol...

Chase,
For what its worth I like Scouty wish he could get in the right hands and be promoted the way he deserves.

Posted by Steve Raleigh on 11-09-2010 07:09 PM:

Re: Steve

quote:
Originally posted by jacie
Come over for a hunt and i will show you. I very happy with my two pups. Ryan Ramey finished Rosie too nite champion sat nite. Thank Ryan and Mark .

Randy,
If you have a 5-7month old pup or pups doing it alone I will be up by Bradford this Sat. and would be more happy to come on over for a few dumps and see these pup/pups do it alone. You know my number. Call me Friday and we can get everything set up.

Posted by smmm302 on 11-09-2010 09:54 PM:

Steve R.

How many dogs have you gone through in the last 4 or 5 year. I hunted walker, then black and tans, now English. Been coohunting since i was four. SO am not sure how I change breed every 8 to twelve months. Bottom line is this. not sure why you and Terry are awlays chiming in and putting your nose where it dont belong. Terry you said for the past two weeks you have been trying to get me to go hunting??? Dont make me pull my phone bill Terry. Cause I will copy and past it and people can see who is BLOWING

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Posted by TERRY GOFORTH on 11-10-2010 12:02 AM:

summ302

Steve if you would have looked in some past post. You said you would take me hunting any time. I try for two weeks to get you to go. And you now show. Thats all right. By the way you call me, cry about Randy. I didnt call you !! Take Troop to the hunts and show every one what the Joker dogs can do!!!

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