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Posted by Kler Kry on 06-09-2025 03:33 PM:

Thyroid Positive Bloodlines

What is the best testing method to assure that a potential stud is not a carrier?


Posted by Sonny Phipps on 06-09-2025 08:17 PM:

Genetic testing . Check with EMBARK

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Posted by Kler Kry on 06-10-2025 04:27 PM:

Which Studs Are Reproducing Thyroid Problems

Females carry defect too.


Posted by fogebotom on 06-13-2025 08:03 PM:

Full thyroid panel through vet. Embark is a joke, most of their tests are generic and not breed specific.


Posted by ScottCK 6 on 06-15-2025 09:44 AM:

Whether someone can admit it or not, they all have the problem, it didn’t start recently !

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Posted by ScottCK 6 on 06-15-2025 09:44 AM:

Whether someone can admit it or not, they all have the problem, it didn’t start recently !

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Posted by shadinc on 06-15-2025 05:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ScottCK 6
Whether someone can admit it or not, they all have the problem, it didn’t start recently !
Before testing they were considered lazy dogs and eliminate them from the breeding pool. Now we give them pills, they win hunts, and we breed them.

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Posted by ScottCK 6 on 06-19-2025 04:51 PM:

Yep, you made my point! It’s not new , 10 cent pill twice a day is cheap to have a good dog!

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Posted by DL NH on 06-20-2025 02:33 AM:

It’s a genetic fault and is carried from one generation to the next. It can be treated with what was an inexpensive oral medication back in the 1980’s. It was 10 cents a day then.

I had a daughter of Vaughn’s Mack II and a Vaughn blooded female that had this issue. Over the years there were several dogs that I knew from the bloodline locally that had this problem. They didn’t do well in cold weather with this condition and several died in the winter months between the ages of 6 and 8 years old. At the time the guys I knew that owned these dogs had no clue what their dogs died from.

I put the one I had down for other reasons. She was making a decent coon dog but was possessive at the tree with other dogs and was mean. I don’t tolerate that behavior and I personally believe that it too is a genetic fault that gets passed on to progeny.

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Posted by Kler Kry on 06-25-2025 01:58 AM:

Which Studs Are Reproducing Thyroid Problems

So who has a stud that isnt a carrier?


Posted by BlueDogTid on 06-25-2025 11:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
Before testing they were considered lazy dogs and eliminate them from the breeding pool. Now we give them pills, they win hunts, and we breed them.






It is irresponsible as a breeder to knowingly breed a dog with hypothyroidism. You should be breeding to improve the breed all around, not just hunting ability but health as well. If you have a dog that has thyroid issues they can absolutely still have a good life & make a great hound for you, but to knowingly include that dog into your breeding program is ridiculous, and should be illegal in my opinion. You are not breeding to improve the breed, and I hope you are at least honest enough to let anyone that buys a pup from you know beforehand. Thyroid dogs should be spay/neuter to insure no chance of being bred. There are serious symptoms that come with hypothyroidism & ensuring proper dosage of T4 replacement drugs such as levothyroxine is critical to avoid serious side effects. You can expect to be going to the vet every 8 weeks or so to have their levels tested. I would definitely not recommend purchasing a pup from any breeder that knowingly breeds a thyroid dogs.


Posted by DL NH on 06-27-2025 02:26 PM:

Re: Which Studs Are Reproducing Thyroid Problems

quote:
Originally posted by Kler Kry
So who has a stud that isnt a carrier?


Good question! If I was someone who was considering raising a litter of Blueticks I’d have them tested for thyroid issues before breeding. That’s no guarantee that there won’t be any issues but at least if it tests positive you know that there is a high probability that some of the offspring will inherit the disease.

I personally would not raise a litter of pups from a thyroid positive hound. Sire or dam.

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Posted by Sonny Phipps on 06-27-2025 03:58 PM:

I will make this statement from personal experience and a lot of money spent (my money) to find answers. I cannot express it enough and people say they hear you and agree, but just continue to give thyroid pills because it’s easy and cheap. MOST OF THESE DOGS ARE NOT TRUE “THYROID DOGS”, I am willing to bet very few really are! A simple T4 test will not determine if it is a “thyroid dog”. You must do a full panel to see if all other variables and hormones are in normal ranges. Research thyroid sick syndrome and other possible stresses your dogs system could be fighting. JMO

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