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Posted by indiana1 on 06-17-2023 05:22 PM:

Joy 24/20

Started feeding 24/20 after winter was over. (Was feeding 30/20 super meal. I have a female within last month that does not care for it. I am starting to notice the males are eating grass seems there stomachs are upset. The dogs are wormed regularly and seem healthy otherwise. Just curious if anyone else is seeing the same thing.

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Posted by AndyMiller on 06-17-2023 09:45 PM:

Re: Joy 24/20

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Originally posted by indiana1
Started feeding 24/20 after winter was over. (Was feeding 30/20 super meal. I have a female within last month that does not care for it. I am starting to notice the males are eating grass seems there stomachs are upset. The dogs are wormed regularly and seem healthy otherwise. Just curious if anyone else is seeing the same thing.

i feed the same with great results
But I highly recommend this top dressing
It’s unreal what this does to my dogs

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Posted by indiana1 on 06-18-2023 10:06 AM:

Thanks appriciate it

Posted by indiana1 on 06-28-2023 02:28 AM:

Dogs are doing better The female is eating. I did however notice that the new bag of 24/20 I opened was back to the smaller pellets and a lighter color. I assume they made a change in the recipe.

Posted by JohnnyRingo20 on 06-28-2023 11:30 PM:

Guy I buy from had a pallet deliverd and 23 bags got fed to the hogs because it was so rank a dog wouldn't touch it. Was months from expiration date.

Posted by Josh Michaelis on 06-30-2023 04:51 AM:

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Originally posted by indiana1
Dogs are doing better The female is eating. I did however notice that the new bag of 24/20 I opened was back to the smaller pellets and a lighter color. I assume they made a change in the recipe.

The recipe has not changed. Your new bag is actually older than your old bag. It was made before we switched plants. There is a best buy date on the back of the bag. Check it to be sure it's not expired because that is older feed

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Posted by ssgied on 06-30-2023 08:07 PM:

Two weeks ago I bought a bag of maintenance cause dealer didn’t have 24/20, smelled horrible. Dogs wouldn’t eat it and I don’t blame them. Good date. Never fails, I switch to a new feed, dogs like it and do good, then it all goes to crap!

Posted by Josh Michaelis on 06-30-2023 08:46 PM:

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Originally posted by ssgied
Two weeks ago I bought a bag of maintenance cause dealer didn’t have 24/20, smelled horrible. Dogs wouldn’t eat it and I don’t blame them. Good date. Never fails, I switch to a new feed, dogs like it and do good, then it all goes to crap!

I'm feeding the maintenance. Usually feed it to two females I have during the summer that are easy keepers and get along great with it.

What was the date code on the bag? We would gladly replace it if you contact us.

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Posted by JohnnyRingo20 on 07-01-2023 02:38 AM:

Thanks. He contacted them when he had the issue.

Posted by indiana1 on 07-01-2023 09:18 PM:

The date says best by feb 2024. So is the lighter pellets the current recipe?

Posted by Josh Michaelis on 07-02-2023 10:37 PM:

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Originally posted by indiana1
The date says best by feb 2024. So is the lighter pellets the current recipe?

Those are from the old plant. The formulas have never changed, no matter the plant that makes them. Some just did better than others. Hence the change.

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Posted by OLD TIMER on 07-03-2023 12:56 AM:

Possible

That the color difference is from the “meat” being used.
Beef makes a darker feed then pork or chicken. Having been a buyer for 30+ years of ingredients in the feed business, that would be my guess and could also change the taste. Meat and bone meal has a protein of 48-52% used in the feed business so example: if beef meal is $250.00 a ton and pork meal is $180.00 a ton, which do you think gets used??

Sellers have an old saying, “sell them what they want, deliver what you have.”

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Posted by Josh Michaelis on 07-03-2023 02:33 PM:

Re: Possible

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Originally posted by OLD TIMER
That the color difference is from the “meat” being used.
Beef makes a darker feed then pork or chicken. Having been a buyer for 30+ years of ingredients in the feed business, that would be my guess and could also change the taste. Meat and bone meal has a protein of 48-52% used in the feed business so example: if beef meal is $250.00 a ton and pork meal is $180.00 a ton, which do you think gets used??

Sellers have an old saying, “sell them what they want, deliver what you have.”

The Joy formulas are fixed. We don't change them.

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Posted by OLD TIMER on 07-03-2023 08:58 PM:

Our “formulas” where also fixed—

But that has nothing to do with what ingredients are used to get that fixed formula (or as your nutritionist would call the guarantee analysis)

I use to feed High Standard and would have our lab test it
Dark to light color met the protein guarantee just came from a different source.

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