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Posted by Kler Kry on 09-23-2019 05:33 AM:

Can your dog count coons?

Can your dog tell one coon from another?
Deer cameras show that coon seldom travel as singles.
Does your dog have the ability to tree every coon in a litter that go up separate trees or do they tree one coon per litter and go on to tree another entirely different coon?


Posted by sleepy head on 09-23-2019 10:10 AM:

Yes and yes

Scent-matching dogs have previously been used to identify caged individual Amur tigers (Panthera tigris altaica) by fecal material (scat), but this technique has not been tested in the wild. We tested the hypothesis that trained dogs can identify individual tigers by unique characteristics present in scat. To conduct this work, we used 5 dogs and 58 scats from 25 known individual tigers in independent trials. Dogs correctly selected matched test scats at an average rate of 87% (SE ± 1.4%, n = 521 trials). The average accuracy rates for 4 dogs increased to 98% (SE ± 1.6%, n = 86 sets of repeated-trials) using repeated-trial tests. Each of 5 dogs made correct choices better than expected by chance (dog 1 χ21 = 507.9, P ≤ 0.001; dog 2 χ21 = 882.1, P ≤ 0.001; dog 3 χ21 = 374.1, P ≤ 0.001; dog 4 χ21 = 379.2, P ≤ 0.001; and dog 5 χ21 = 103.9, P ≤ 0.001). Four dogs were able to match 11 scats deposited over a 4-year period from one tiger with an accuracy of 100% (n = 40 trails). This method may be a useful alternative to genetic analyses that are used in conjunction with scat-sampling schemes in studies for which DNA genotyping is impractical or ineffective. Used with mark—recapture surveys to estimate species abundance, scent-matching dogs have the potential of being important tools in the study of wild Amur tigers, as well as other wildlife species.


Posted by Dogwhisper on 09-23-2019 12:42 PM:

Yes...but not all can "count" , but above average one I swear they know theirs two sumtimes 3 coons up one tree....
Knock one out ,it'll mouth it then go back ta treeing, like it knows theirs more up their.
Then I seen dog tree every coon in a litter....just cutt-m from tree .....the latter is something ta behold.


Posted by CHEWBACH on 09-23-2019 04:14 PM:

that's why I like hunting when leaves are off. when he makes 5 trees in 50 yrds of me I can see what hes got. instead of him holding up 5 toes and showing me I can see whats up there. but he does a bang up job. Count AAAh think he just smells them. knows the difference from the one he just treed and knowing another is out there running together.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 09-23-2019 05:05 PM:

I had a dog once that could do that. When kittens were out, he would go from tree to tree and tree a whole litter. And he wouldn't put his nose on the ground between them. I let some buddies take him up to Wisconsin to hunt him. They called him, "The Census Taker". He would show them every coon in a patch of woods.


Posted by Robert Johnson on 09-23-2019 05:33 PM:

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
I had a dog once that could do that. When kittens were out, he would go from tree to tree and tree a whole litter. And he wouldn't put his nose on the ground between them. I let some buddies take him up to Wisconsin to hunt him. They called him, "The Census Taker". He would show them every coon in a patch of woods.


Richard was that before you started with the redbones and hunted them walkers? LOL ...I could not resist. sorry

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Posted by shadinc on 09-23-2019 10:52 PM:

I don't think a dog can count. But I do think he can smell. How do you think a dog knows when a coon is in a tree? And even the slick treers know. Lots of people believe they can be broke from slick treeing. If they didn't know they were wrong how could you break them? We read on this forum this week about a female that went 150 yds across a river to tree a coon. If a dog can smell a coon from 150 yards he surely can smell one 30 feet over his head. Some dogs have enough savvy to know another coon is in the tree. He can smell him.

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Posted by JB Cobb on 09-24-2019 12:03 AM:

Mine has it all.... Smartest I've ever seen .... Just need to slow him down a little.... Keeps beating the coons to the tree... All I can figure is he knows what tree they going to climb before they get there... 😎


Posted by shadinc on 09-24-2019 12:56 AM:

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Originally posted by JB Cobb
Mine has it all.... Smartest I've ever seen .... Just need to slow him down a little.... Keeps beating the coons to the tree... All I can figure is he knows what tree they going to climb before they get there... 😎
Train him to hide in the bushes and wait for the coon to get there. It sounds like with a little training you might have the next world champion.

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Posted by Clif Owen on 09-24-2019 03:35 AM:

I don't know but think one can definitely smell the difference. I had one that on several occasions would trail through an area and another dog tree one behind him. He would then go on to tree a different coon. I've also seen him go through an area running, tree the coon and when released; run back through that area and just fall treed with a coon. He was a long way from tight on track so I think he smelled where one was up and then fall back and tree it on the way back. I'm not real smart so I'm probably wrong but I think that was what was happening.


Posted by sleepy head on 09-24-2019 01:23 PM:

If it's to much for a dog to comprehend a trail of multiple coon with his nose I suppose a visual would destroy his brain


Posted by Preacher Tom on 09-24-2019 04:14 PM:

Some nights my dog seems to know where every coon in the woods is and other nights he doesn't know where any of them are but that's just my sorry dog.

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Posted by Bill(Chew) on 09-24-2019 06:57 PM:

Didn't you ever notice that when you tree one coon the dogs don't take the same track again when you recut them?

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Posted by yadkintar on 09-24-2019 07:32 PM:

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Originally posted by Preacher Tom
Some nights my dog seems to know where every coon in the woods is and other nights he doesn't know where any of them are but that's just my sorry dog.



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Posted by Reuben on 09-25-2019 03:44 AM:

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Originally posted by shadinc
I don't think a dog can count. But I do think he can smell. How do you think a dog knows when a coon is in a tree?


Some dogs are cold nosed and run a track but usually don’t wind...they you have hotter nosed dogs that don’t take cold tracks but have decent winding ability...so is it a natural inclination to wind as mentioned?

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 09-25-2019 05:33 AM:

Why do some dogs tree on an empty bush or sapling when all they have to do is look up and see that there is no coon there?


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