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What's he worth

Turned a year old earlier this month. He has made 7 trees all by himself. Coons in 5, 1 legit den and I big gum still full of leaves. Med sized dog with an outstanding mouth. Black and Tan with brindle trim. Out of good stock. Curious as to what y'all will give. I've got plenty of references on the dog. Nowhere near a coon dog but better than most his age. You won't hurt my feelings just want an honest appraisal. (731) 610-2349 Wes Holmes

whats the bloodline, i'd guess if good blood probably 5 to 7 hundred would be a fair price

Alot of folks still want a coondog for $500 .. and they can eventually find some old plug that will tree a coon for them and the team works.

But for a young dog that is started and has looks , pedigree and potential ... a grand is the minimum .... but if you start getting up to $1,500 or more then the pup better be super , duper classy and strapping it on the average older dog .

I've been told by some ol time leopard men that this pup is well ahead of the curve. I like the sound of $1500 a lot better than $500. Thanks for the appraisals.

What's he worth

Whether it's my dog or your dog or anything else that's for sale. It's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Usually you don't have to advertise a good dog for sale because someone local will grab him before he's sold on the internet. You want the truth well that's the truth.

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I'm looking for a fair price, not a buyer. I've got 4 of those. None local. You can't give a leopard away in my country. I guess that shoots a hole in your theory awe sum.

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Originally posted by Awe Sum Mass
[B]Whether it's my dog or your dog or anything else that's for sale. It's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Usually you don't have to advertise a good dog for sale because someone local will grab him before he's sold on the internet. /B]

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I'm just trying to get an idea of what he is worth. I have sold a dog or 2 in my lifetime. Never a leopard and folks that have hunted with him think he's a lot nicer than I do. People stating the obvious is no help at all.

I agree and reiterate that anything is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Realistically I'd say somewhere between $400 & $800 would be a fair 'today's market" price for a registered, good blooded, well started young coon dog around that age, regardless of breed, at least here in my part of the country.

I agree wholeheartedly that $1500 sounds a lot better, and I hate to sound negative, but I sincerely doubt you'll actually find anyone willing to pay that much. It would be awesome if you could, and I hope that you can, but frankly I just really doubt it.
Between $400 & $800 is a much more realistic & fair price in today's market, depending on how good the young dog is, provided that the potential buyer likes what he sees.

There was a time when I would have agreed with dirtdevil- that "for a young dog that is started and has looks , pedigree and potential ... a grand is the minimum .... but if you start getting up to $1,500 or more then the pup better be super , duper classy and strapping it on the average older dog"

However, speaking realistically, with the economy in the tank like it is and has been for quite some time, At $1500. you'd likely have a hard time selling anything less than a young finished broke dog (with some wins) or an older titled dog, and that's if sold on trial or "under the tree."

You asked- and I'm genuinely trying to help you here. Please understand that these are just my opinions based on my own personal experiences. I'm sure there are many who would agree and also many that would disagree with me. Take it for what it's worth.
Eric

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Thank you Eric that is the kind of information I needed.

agree

I agree with eric myself. Hard to say what the next ten hunts will be. Could be unreal could be long nts. I think his estimate was fair. Im thinkin around the 550 mark but if he shines the nt you show him and the buyer sees a lot of potential then 8 wouldn't be out of line for a dog that age lookin good. My thoughts only and im no expert.

$200-300 for pups .... but after a year of starting them and you have one that represents going through a dozen to get because he's special .. and he's worth only $500 or so ?

I agree

Eric and Corey I agree that what your saying is correct. Dirt Devil I agree with you that it's not right. This pup is nice. The leopard folks that have hunted with him put him in the upper 95% and say he has the best mouth they have ever heard on a leopard. If he was this exceptional and a Walker he would be 3500 plus. I can't understand why this market is so soft.

soft

My thoughts are the market is soft because no one has the extra money to spend rt now and also I think some have ben screwed so mayt times there arnt as many lookin anymore. I would rather have a leopard myself but I do like any good hound.

For me 2 schools of thought.....title/promote him. Maybe make allot on stud fees and pups! He is worth more.

Just an ole pleasure hunter, I ain't coming off a grand!!!! Dogs can die young and we don't have enough coon to sell that many hides.

But at the same time, If I was you, I wouldn't take a penny less than 1000$ Why? Well, if the dog is all you say it is....that dog don't have a drivers license to transport himself to da woods! In other words, What is a mans time and energy worth??????? I like what was said, pup 200-300$/ treeing by there self 500$ You won't get it from me that cheap!!!!!

Far as the market/economy...did ya see the Walmart parking lots the last few Decembers/Black friday? Don't look like a bad market to me! Either that or everyone is living in debt cause of the all mighty Credit card. Thats 1000% there own fault!!!!

Paul

P.S. I have seen "JUNK" sell for a grand!

Your right Big Dog

My thoughts are this. I can't replace the dog for $2500 -$3000. It would cost me that much in gas riding and looking. I guess my point is: if your gonna put the time and energy in on a pup like this you've got $$500 plus in him to start with and like you said big dog he can't drive himself to the woods. Spent 14 mos looking for him. Drove 1000 plus miles to find him, took a chance on him being something nice enough to spend time with. I know the estimates of his worth on here are honest and based on past experiences. I think this is a go broke deal. I'm never made any money off dogs. I like to hunt and train that's the reason I do it. I've sold some pretty high and I've given a bunch away, I've went through a bunch the last year and he's the cream of the crop. I've got $2000 plus in him (all my fault) he's the best that I can come up with and he'll bring $800. May be time to retire.

Don't waste your time titling and promoting him for stud fees , they will all find a reason not to breed to him anyway. JMO John

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I'm not looking for a stud dog John. Go broke deal there too. Nt ch title is easy to come by. I personally don't put much significance in that anyway. As hard as a good young leopard is to come by I don't understand why they are so cheap.

Wes...

I would venture to say that if you took him to a larger leopard hunt and buddy hunted him with some guys to show his ability he would sell himself...you'd probably be able to get the price you wanted. I know that just to buy and dog and pay a hauler is a minimum of $500 for an untrained pup...depending on what part of the country it comes from. I have used a hound hauler to pick up dogs to send to buyers...it ranges from $250.00 up.
I know that of the hounds I've sold, I stay on my price...post pictures and pedigree.
I don't think that $800.00 is unreasonable...more like $1000.00.

John: It's a shame that Bolt is overlooked...he has brains and top performance wrapped up in a solid package...I'll be looking to him in the future...men are missing out by not using him to breed to...

Sorry Wes...not trying to hijack your post.

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Hijack away mike no big deal. I like the way Bolt is bred myself. I know we are getting off topic again Mike but you seem to know what's going on. I understand how Jug was a divisive force along with the UKC registry thing but there sure seems to be a lot of underlying tension among the Lep men. I wonder if you could shed a little light. (731) 610-2349 thanks Hacksaw is not for sale and he hasn't been. I'm just curious why these dogs won't bring what they are worth.

Wes...

I'll call you tonight or tommorrow after work...

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Leps.

I sure don't know why leps. Don't hold a higher value! I'd say cuz many still just consider them just an ole cur dog! But even then it's like,I seen my self dogs that wer top coon&sq.dogs that wer part Shepard,collie,fiest,elkhounds, what ever hienzs 57 .go for $1000's. My first sq.dog looked like a ole lab& redbone cross,grade no papers,and my ole man paid 1500 for him! But now my wife and I have a beautiful,Ukc show champion,top bloodlines,bluemerle lep.female that has a loud ringing chop mouth on the wood,can tree all the sq.'s a man could carry! And can't get $800 for her! Oh well guess she will set in the kennel and get hunted 2 or 3 times a month!,cuz I ain't giving her away!

lep.dogs

The reason is simple these dogs are considered crossover dogs to most hunters fair or not also look at all the type of pups out of the same litter most hunters consider them treeing cuts xbreds

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Originally posted by eric4dei
I agree and reiterate that anything is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Realistically I'd say somewhere between $400 & $800 would be a fair 'today's market" price for a registered, good blooded, well started young coon dog around that age, regardless of breed, at least here in my part of the country.

I agree wholeheartedly that $1500 sounds a lot better, and I hate to sound negative, but I sincerely doubt you'll actually find anyone willing to pay that much. It would be awesome if you could, and I hope that you can, but frankly I just really doubt it.
Between $400 & $800 is a much more realistic & fair price in today's market, depending on how good the young dog is, provided that the potential buyer likes what he sees.

There was a time when I would have agreed with dirtdevil- that "for a young dog that is started and has looks , pedigree and potential ... a grand is the minimum .... but if you start getting up to $1,500 or more then the pup better be super , duper classy and strapping it on the average older dog"

However, speaking realistically, with the economy in the tank like it is and has been for quite some time, At $1500. you'd likely have a hard time selling anything less than a young finished broke dog (with some wins) or an older titled dog, and that's if sold on trial or "under the tree."

You asked- and I'm genuinely trying to help you here. Please understand that these are just my opinions based on my own personal experiences. I'm sure there are many who would agree and also many that would disagree with me. Take it for what it's worth.
Eric

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what am i worth

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