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Posted by T Felderman on 10-15-2024 05:19 PM:

11(c) Handling Dogs

“Judge SHALL give handler permission to handle dog on split tree”. Does this mean judge has to give permission?

You have three dogs in front of you treed 700 yards and another treed 0.60 mile the opposite direction. I’m sorry there is a small handful of people I’d trust to let handle a dog by themselves in a big hunt that far away from the cast. Not to mention, when cast gets split up that far apart only bad things can happen.


Posted by ScottCK 6 on 10-15-2024 07:32 PM:

Judge has to grant permission!

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Posted by MOcoondogs on 10-16-2024 02:28 AM:

Is that "has to grant permission" before you can or "has to grant permission" can't keep you from doing it?


Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 10-16-2024 03:03 AM:

As long as the cast has a majority to score a tree and or isn't in the process of scoring a tree a judge has to let a handler go to his dog if the tree is dead.

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Posted by huntr987 on 10-24-2024 10:14 AM:

As long as the cast has a majority to score a tree and or isn't in the process of sco

Not true. Trees will be scored in order, unless all dogs are treed and then you can score them out of order. And all handlers have to be at the tree to score the tree, unless a non hunting judge is being used.

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Posted by ScottCK 6 on 10-24-2024 11:40 AM:

Re: As long as the cast has a majority to score a tree and or isn't in the process of sco

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Originally posted by huntr987
Not true. Trees will be scored in order, unless all dogs are treed and then you can score them out of order. And all handlers have to be at the tree to score the tree, unless a non hunting judge is being used.
Look at the definition of shall, either you are wrong or UKC is using the word shall improperly.

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 10-27-2024 03:47 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
As long as the cast has a majority to score a tree and or isn't in the process of scoring a tree a judge has to let a handler go to his dog if the tree is dead.

This.

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Posted by jawscardodger on 11-09-2024 01:45 PM:

Can the judge tell the handler he has to come back to score the tree after he ties his dog up?

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 11-10-2024 03:02 PM:

"Majority of the cast" in a 4 dog cast is 3 so if there are only 3 handlers to score a tree in a 4 dog cast then they all have to agree on the scoring. The same goes for a 3 dog cast. Rule doesn't say "majority of the cast at the tree". When you go handle your dog by yourself you "have" to return to the cast before they can score their tree. Otherwise if there is a disagreement, the tree can't be scored and must be deleted. Or theoretically you could be scratched for not voting but I have never heard of that happening.


Posted by SCOTTSTINNETT on 11-10-2024 10:12 PM:

YOU CANT SCORE OUT OF ORDER UNLESS TIME OUT HAS TO BE CALLED


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