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Posted by Kler Kry on 09-16-2024 06:47 PM:

The Art Of Shining A Tree And Finding A Coon

As coon hunters we are blessed with different eyesight, but some hunters always find the coon a higher percentage of the time than others and especially with heavy foliage.
I have never seen a book written on it, but one could be a best seller!
So how do the BEST differ from the rest of us?


Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-16-2024 07:01 PM:

The thing to do is buy the thermal that I sell and remove all doubt 😃

But I do agree , some are way better at finding coon then others.

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Posted by shadinc on 09-16-2024 10:28 PM:

I don't think it's experience. I was better at it 40 years ago.

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Posted by Reuben on 09-16-2024 11:39 PM:

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Originally posted by shadinc
I don't think it's experience. I was better at 40 years ago.


Consuming more carrots will help with vitamin a deficiency which helps you to see better at night but don't know what to tell you about those old eyes…🤔😳

The art of…either your born with it or you do it often enough that it becomes second nature…I’m not a coon hunter but I understand what Kler Kry is saying…

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Posted by Dave Richards on 09-17-2024 01:45 AM:

Eyes/Game eyes

Foremost, I want to discuss the difference between eye sight and game eye sight. Years ago I read a article on sheep hunting where a guide was telling the hunters how many rams where located on a distant mountain. One of the hunters happened to be a eye doctor and knew the guide could not possible see that far. The doctor called the guide out and demanded a explanation on how the guide came to his conclusion. The guide admitted that he definitely could not actually see the rams in question, but explained that he could see the black Dots on the snow covered mountain, the dots were the horns of the rams and by his experience he knew what the dots represented. The doctor later wrote a book that explained game vision vs eye sight itself. Game vision tell the experienced hunter things such as a horn in a thicket belonging to a buck, when the deer is hidden by the brush. Little things such as a blinking eye, a thicker spot on a tree limb, a darker area on a tree limb or fork in a tree. Game vision is being able to spot things that do not belong. Game vision is seeing things that represent the game we are looking for. Those of us that are able to find game others do not see look for little things that are out of place. A tip of a ear above a limb, a dark spot, something that is not part of the tree, or background of what we are looking at. I hope this explains why game vision is way more important that just having good eyes. We lose eyesight as we age, but game vision helps us locate game that ever better eyesight fails to locate. Dave

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Posted by Dave Richards on 09-17-2024 02:46 AM:

Finding coons

I have had the opportunity to hunt with 2 of the best hunters that could find coons where others could not. If the coon was there they would find it, especially if there were no leaves on the trees. We mainly hunted in late fall, winter and early spring when the leaves were off the trees. Many times they would find the coon and then try to show the coon to other hunters in the cast to no avail. They would then shoot the coon out much to the others hunters surprise. These 2 hunters looked for little things such as a thick spot on a limb, a ear sticking above a limb, a dark spot that did not match the tree color. They knew what these little things represented. Anyone can see the whole coon or the eyes if the coon looked at them, but the little things they looked for helped them to find hidden coons that most hunters could not find. I used to squirrel hunt with dogs and you better look for little things if you expect to find many squirrels as they are matters at hiding. Learn to search for little things that do not go with the background or seem out of place if you want to developer game vision. Dave

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 09-17-2024 11:49 PM:

Cheyenne says you have to think like a coon lol. Was it a hot track the dog ambushed on? If so coon is probably lower and closer to the tree hanging on for dear life. Hot night with not much breeze look way at the top. Ect, ect ect, but some how he seems to know where to look most of the time and is really good at finding them.

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Posted by buff1978 on 09-18-2024 03:55 AM:

Re: Eyes/Game eyes

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Richards
Foremost, I want to discuss the difference between eye sight and game eye sight. Years ago I read a article on sheep hunting where a guide was telling the hunters how many rams where located on a distant mountain. One of the hunters happened to be a eye doctor and knew the guide could not possible see that far. The doctor called the guide out and demanded a explanation on how the guide came to his conclusion. The guide admitted that he definitely could not actually see the rams in question, but explained that he could see the black Dots on the snow covered mountain, the dots were the horns of the rams and by his experience he knew what the dots represented. The doctor later wrote a book that explained game vision vs eye sight itself. Game vision tell the experienced hunter things such as a horn in a thicket belonging to a buck, when the deer is hidden by the brush. Little things such as a blinking eye, a thicker spot on a tree limb, a darker area on a tree limb or fork in a tree. Game vision is being able to spot things that do not belong. Game vision is seeing things that represent the game we are looking for. Those of us that are able to find game others do not see look for little things that are out of place. A tip of a ear above a limb, a dark spot, something that is not part of the tree, or background of what we are looking at. I hope this explains why game vision is way more important that just having good eyes. We lose eyesight as we age, but game vision helps us locate game that ever better eyesight fails to locate. Dave
years ago me and a buddy was driving g down country road during deer season.there was about a acre of grass with small scrub trees in it as we drove by I noticed a white spot in the grass that kind of reminded you of a milkweed.i stopped and started backing up my buddy said what are you doing I said there's a deer laying back in that grass patch and it's probably a buck.as we backed up and stopped for a few minutes I pointed the white spot out to him he said that ain't no darn deer.i got out and slammed the door and a nice buck jumped up and ran off he couldn't believe I had spotted that white spot and knew it was a deer.


Posted by Dave Richards on 09-18-2024 10:42 PM:

Re: Re: Eyes/Game eyes

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Originally posted by buff1978
years ago me and a buddy was driving g down country road during deer season.there was about a acre of grass with small scrub trees in it as we drove by I noticed a white spot in the grass that kind of reminded you of a milkweed.i stopped and started backing up my buddy said what are you doing I said there's a deer laying back in that grass patch and it's probably a buck.as we backed up and stopped for a few minutes I pointed the white spot out to him he said that ain't no darn deer.i got out and slammed the door and a nice buck jumped up and ran off he couldn't believe I had spotted that white spot and knew it was a deer.



Buff, That was a prime example of what I mean by game eyes. Having game eyes mean you look for little things that are out of place or that stand out from the background. That white spot stood out to you in that green grass field. Learning to look at little things not looking for the whole animal developes game vision. Coons and squirrels can hide extremely well and at times are very hard to find. Looking for things like a tip of the ear, a dark spot or thick area on a limb helps you find them. Developing game vision means learning to discern things out of place or things that indicate the game you are hunting. Bling of a eye in a brush pile, flick of a ear, antler in a brush patch, little thing that you associate with the game you are hunting. Dave

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Posted by Georgeb on 09-19-2024 03:52 PM:

Coons are easier to find if they are there.lol


Posted by Georgeb on 09-19-2024 03:52 PM:

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Posted by Dave Richards on 09-19-2024 08:50 PM:

Coons

quote:
Originally posted by Georgeb
Coons are easier to find if they are there.lol


Lol. I have to agree, but when they are there, they ( coons ) can be very hard to find at times. I hunt mountains that have big hemlock trees and the only way you will find a coons in a hemlock is for the coons to look at you and be in a place where you can see those eyes. I have shot many coons that trees in a hemlock, but they looked at me. You could not find a bear in most hemlock if it did not look. I still stress the game vision is more important than just good eye sight. Finding that little something that's out of place such as a dark spot, bulge on a limb and other things not part of the trees can help you find the coons. Dave

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Posted by randywoodard2 on 09-25-2024 09:44 AM:

They got an accurate dog!! Easier to find when it is there.

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Posted by Ricochet17 on 09-25-2024 10:56 PM:

Indian Charlie Lowery was pretty good about finding them .

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Posted by bowling on 09-26-2024 02:57 AM:

If you hunt the right kind they are far easier to find I rather spend the extra money for an accurate dog and use a cheap light and a can of rocks to rattle to make him look if necessary. Figured that out long time ago.


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