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Posted by superdog__2008 on 05-15-2007 04:38 PM:

how good wood a pitbull be for a kill dog for bobcats

I am a coonhunter but i wood like to got a pup out of my two coondog and start it on bobcats but i have a lot of time and $ in my dog to get one of there pup killed by a cat so i was going to take one of my pitbull pup for a kill dog what do you thank.

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Posted by pete on 05-15-2007 05:30 PM:

i dont think that theres any need for a kill dog for bobcats-if your hound will bay a big boar coon he will do the same with bobcat- hardest thing about cats is for a dog to get near them


Posted by mudman on 05-15-2007 05:49 PM:

the only thing i can tell ya is you better have a deep pocket cause a pit has fight and doesnt give up and the bobcat is teh same way and after the first cat you will probly have a half dead or dieing pit just get you a old bob cat dog and start you a pack of 3-4 hounds because if you go in and a bob is bayed he will stay long enough for a shot or if its treed most of the times they bail just as you get to the tree id just get me a old bob dog and a pup if your new to trainning bobcat dogs dont fill your list with pups because to do it right you can only train one pup at a time (JMO)

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Posted by superdog__2008 on 05-15-2007 06:13 PM:

i breed pitbulls i have 3 female and one male and i have a male and female redtick but i do not wont my tree dog geting cut up by a cat that is way i was going to have a pit to run with my redtick and put a hogdogvest and cut collar on the pit.

just goting started need some help. you still thank no on the pit.


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Posted by mudman on 05-15-2007 06:19 PM:

the vest seems to cause them to over heat faster your in teh wrong life if you think your going to have a good cat dog and it not get in a fight with one you cant be on there heels every sec things happen its the way of this life we love

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Posted by P.S PLOTTS on 05-15-2007 08:52 PM:

i dont think u need to worry about the vest for a pit, as long as ur other dogs have a bit of grab they should be ok, coyotes are worse then bobs for dammage JMO and we get some tore up plotts but nothing real bad or a couple stitches and a shot of penisilun cant handle, unless its a one on one fight with a young dog, then things can get messy but i dont hunt bobs so..and if u are killing them for pelts u might just want to find a gritty started hound, the pit will tear it to ba jeezus

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Posted by David Boggs on 05-15-2007 09:56 PM:

you

dont need a pitbull to kill a bobcat,your coon hound wood be better,,and when bit bull cikes out they lock on aney part of the animal they can,and mite your hounds,,


Posted by Kelli on 05-16-2007 12:03 AM:

I don't hunt bobcats, but I have bred pit bulls in the past, and some of them have had run-ins with bobs.

A pit bull is likely to lock down on any part of the animal if they can't get the throat. And it's not easy to get the throat of a bobcat. They could end up grabbing a leg and getting their eyes clawed out. Their pain tolerance is high, and the madder they get and the more they hurt, the harder they hold on.

Like ky huntter said, once a pit bull gets fighting mad, it's a possibility it may grab a hound in the middle of a squabble with the cat. There was an incident once where I had a pit bull on a chain and the neighbor's dog was standing just out of his reach barking at him. My dog had gotten so mad that, when I walked up to run the other dog off, he turned and nipped my leg. First and last time it ever happened, and he was a good dog, never mean towards humans, but they were originally bred for fighting, and sometimes they go nuts when the opportunity arises. The only way to avoid them grabbing a hound would be to tie the hounds back away from the cat, and then that isn't exactly fair to them.

As P.S. Plotts said, if you're hunting for pelts, a pit bull may rip it up.

It's really up to you. I see where you get the idea that a pit bull would make a great kill dog. They would. BUT, a hound is a tough creature as well. Your going to get a cut up dog either way.

JMO,

Kelli


By the way, what are the bloodlines on your pit bulls?


Posted by Vance M. on 05-16-2007 12:06 AM:

I am no way a bobcat expert but I have raised pit bulls for over ten years and I agree with psplotts. A good pit will ruin the pelt quick as sh!*

I would stick with a hound


Posted by Jeremey on 05-16-2007 01:37 AM:

Re: how good wood a pitbull be for a kill dog for bobcats

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Originally posted by superdog__2008
I am a coonhunter but i wood like to got a pup out of my two coondog and start it on bobcats but i have a lot of time and $ in my dog to get one of there pup killed by a cat so i was going to take one of my pitbull pup for a kill dog what do you thank.


Man if you got a dog worth that much i would not let it out of the house... I have not see any one that ha had a kill dog for bob cats.. after you treeum you umm well use a gun most of the time but if one gets cought on the ground A couple honds can take on a bobcat...

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Posted by superdog__2008 on 05-16-2007 02:51 AM:

the male i have 700.00 in and is out of sire ch grnitech'pr'michigian swamp rooster and the dam is 'pr'southeastern's&cedar mt.candy and the female i have 200.00 in and is ukc and pkc and is out of sire hardtime cody'jar and dam hardtime swamp sadie and go's back to rooster on the dams side. two good coon dogs and are pricess to me and eney pup out of them i wood not sale for lase then 250.00. that is way i ask about the pit


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Posted by P.S PLOTTS on 05-16-2007 09:17 PM:

if they can kill a big boar coon like a big 30+ pounds they should be able to handle a bobcat, maybe not kill it but keep a good handle on it, like i say if u want the pelts and are like me, when i go coon hunting i rarely take a gun, lol i use a stick, i like to keep good pelts i wouldnt try that with a bobcat tho lol. i have 800 bucks into my plott bitch and well i have expectations, maybe not fight a yote by herself but she had better be in its face.

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Posted by IDbluecat on 05-16-2007 09:35 PM:

I'm gonna agree

with most to the others. I personally have never needed a kill dog on Bobcats. They are worth way too much money in their pelt to be chewed up by the dogs. If your dogs get one treed, just slide in and tie back the dogs and let the 22 do the rest. Your hounds should have no problem with a bobcat bayed on the ground either. Just like coon hunting, once you turn out you don't know what's going to happen til you get there...and you may have a couple stitch bills from the vet, but that's part of the game and reality. If you are afraid of getting a dog chewed up, what's the point in turning out? I personally don't see the point in owning a pit for a kill dog on bobcats. Just my thoughts though.

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Posted by Jim Balash on 05-16-2007 11:59 PM:

I've hunted bobs for alot of years and by no means am I an expert but if you need a catch dog for bobs something is really wrong. My experience has shown me that time and time again a bob will tree, regain its breath, jump from the tree, and could do this numerous times before you finally get to the tree. Your hounds will learn cat since if they desire to. Lets say my old blue dog used to tree coon and be paws up trying to get after a coon and with bobs she would stand back about 10-12 feet with a fast chop watching the bob knowing that it was going to jump to the ground and she didn't want to look like an idiot when I arrived so she was ready to chase the bob as soon as it hit the ground. Now my Plott sits down about 20 feet or so and does the same thing never have I bayed one on the ground. Exception to this was once a bob jumped down and I had a hammer/ jet bred female that caught it on the way down. But remember that this could even happen with a coon in the water. Just remember your hounds and you will not live forever.
Jim


Posted by Jeremey on 05-17-2007 12:23 AM:

Wow

I dont mean to be a smart ass but if you have a hound. That you are scared to hunt. You better just take your house dog out there insted. Because Every one takes a risk when they take the dog out. It could fall off a bluff or get ran over ect. Why buy a hound that you your self donot wan to take out of the yard. I only have one hound my self. And she is a nice lil dog. BUt i would run here on any peace of game by here self and have no worrys. But thats just me.

And i have seen some hounds work a bob by them self and i must say. I feel sorry for any bob cat that will push its luck with that dog.

And even a terrier i know of can take one its self.

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Posted by branch505 on 05-20-2007 12:36 PM:

this topic is like using a 50 cal to hunt quail. sure you can take a quail with the 50 cal but would you really want whats left of the game?


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