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Posted by Billy George on 07-09-2007 03:47 AM:

Question on a Mt Loin Kill

Do they usually carry off parts of a kill ?

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Posted by cougar on 07-09-2007 04:30 AM:

no , they bury it , to come back later to eat again , almost as a bear would , however i guess it could be possable if they had a den of kittens and was introducing meat for the first time. but also they generaly kill , eat there fill and move on to another. a cougar wont eat rancid meat , always fresh , unless it got kicked out of its area by a bigger cat and or it is sick... been my experiance with them anyways.. hope it was helpfull to you... happy hunting

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Posted by pete on 07-10-2007 02:14 AM:

a bear will carry it off sometimes lol

one time i ran a sow bear a very short half circle and treed her in a single bushy balsam tree in a hayfield --maybe whole run was 300 yards -and under the tree was a still warm and limp dead fawn-- dogs were stepping on it - like it wasnt there -- and it hadnt been dead more than a few minutes --
cant prove it --- but i think bear dropped it at bottom of tree -- didnt want to leave it and thats why treed so quick--

course thats my story-- my buddy told me dogs were chasing deer and just happened on bear in the tree





did you read about the lil boy in utah that was killed- ?

bear snatched him out of tent and lugged him off 400 yards--


Posted by Family on 07-10-2007 09:26 PM:

yea ....didnt the parents...leave the child behind in camp...to come back and find what happened ? rough life this is. gotta be prepared and watchin your back . Sad story.

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Posted by Gary Roberson on 07-10-2007 10:48 PM:

lion kill

I have found a couple of lion kills through the years and have visited with other lion hunters in the Southwest concerning lion kills. None of us have ever seen a lion "part out" a kill. I have seen a mature lion drag a mature mule deer buck over 500 yards and over 300 feet in elevation from the floor of a canyon and tuck him under the rim of a canyon. The kill was initiated at a water trough and the lion had the buck on the ground almost instantly. After the kill was made and the buck stopped flopping, the lion drug him down across a wash and appeared to have gutted him, eating almost all of the everything except the contents of the stomach. After this process was completed, he commenced dragging and climbing. He tucked the carcass under some thick brush just under the rimrock and appeared to have stayed there until he was finished. I have found other kills where the lion never attempted to move the victim and appeared to eat the whole thing without moving it or covering the kill at any time.

I have found a few cases where large bobcats would cover their kills. On two occasions, I have received phone calls from folks thinking that they had found lion kills. Upon dumping my hounds, I caught large "pot bellied" tom bobcats and was unable to find any lion sign. We do not have any bear in this part of Texas.


Posted by Kyle W. Graf on 07-11-2007 02:13 AM:

I know for a fact that large tom bobcats will burry their food. I bait them with road kills in the winter and they cover them with snow.
Kyle


Posted by Gary Roberson on 07-11-2007 02:25 PM:

lion kill

Since it rarely if ever snows in South Texas (once every 10 years or so) the large bobcats use brush to cover kills similar to a lion. We have to dry land hunt in this part of the world and that is why I got out of the Treeing Walkers. They could help once you got a critter running but just did not have the nose to trail on dry dirt and rock.


Posted by Travis Stirek on 07-12-2007 12:12 AM:

Gary ya just didn't have the right line.

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Posted by Billy George on 07-12-2007 03:30 AM:

Thanks for the reply's

A neighbor had a calf killed. All that was left was the head,and hide. The bigger bones,and such were scattered around the kill site. The reason I asked was I found some lion tracks along the creek behind my house. Probably sounds like a coyote kill, but who knows..... Thanks again..

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Posted by Gary Roberson on 07-12-2007 02:39 PM:

lion kill

Billy, when you discover a kill that is not fresh, it is difficult to say who the culprit was. Coytoes will clean up kills several days old as they are not as picky as a cat. I found a lion kill along a sandy wash in West Texas just north of Big Bend National Park. Murry Burnham and I studied the kill for over an hour and it was pretty obvious what had happened. The lion had rushed the doe at a water trough and after running her through heavy brush, made the kill. The lion drug her approx. 10 steps and tucked her under a blowdown. It was August and hotter blue blazes. The lion had guarded the kill from the coyotes as the area around the kill site was covered in coyote tracks. You could see where the coyotes had walked around and around the lion. When Murray and I found the kill, about the only thing remaining was the head and part of the spinal column. The coyotes had scattered and eaten the remainder.


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