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SWITCHING FROM COON TO LION OR BEAR?

I may be moving to Arizona or Wyoming in the near future. How hard is it to transition a coondog into a Lion or Bear dog. My dog WCH GRNITECH GRCH DILLARD'S WHITE OAK PRIDE rigs very well from a truck or boat on coon. Please feel free to share opinions and experiance. I have zero experiance on Lion or Bear. Thanks.

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Re: SWITCHING FROM COON TO LION OR BEAR?

We start all of our dogs on coon. My buddies like to put them on cats next and the bear after a year old. I personally skip the cats because I don't hunt them. If you are in far east wyoming there are hunts in Nebraska as well. No hunts in western wyoming. You won't have any problem switching over. Feel free to call me I'm off through Saturday. I have some buddies in the Utah/Arizona area.

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Originally posted by Chris Dillard
I may be moving to Arizona or Wyoming in the near future. How hard is it to transition a coondog into a Lion or Bear dog. My dog WCH GRNITECH GRCH DILLARD'S WHITE OAK PRIDE rigs very well from a truck or boat on coon. Please feel free to share opinions and experiance. I have zero experiance on Lion or Bear. Thanks.

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KEN

Thanks for the information. I interviewed for the Page AZ. position yesterday and should be hearing something in 7 to 10 days. I think that area has more Lion than Bear, but Im not sure.

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Chris,

I was wondering the same thing.I'm glad you posted this thread.I lived in Utah for 3 yrs. from 2000-2003.I would love to move back there or western Colorado in the next few years.I loved it out there.Almost wish I woulda never left.Any more input on this subject would be greatly appreciated.Good luck gettin' the job Chris.
Rob Gregory

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Re: Chris,

Usually changing critters is least of your worries. The biggest obstacle is usually scenting picture changes. Going from place of high humidity to dry dust and rock can take forever to acclimate dogs.

Getting dogs from CA was always a 2 season chore for lion in Idaho. Dogs could catch the hell out of cats and lions in bear season, but ran around like idiots first season or two in the snow. Took em a while to learn to stick heads in snow up to their collars and blow in tracks. Some older dogs never acclimated.

Same with bringing dogs use to wet snow down to dry dusty snow. Or bringing dogs use to a lot of ground scent in wet areas down to the dust. They don't tend to lick rocks to grab scent.

Seen many 'broke' dogs take to other critters with a little help and encouragement. Seen quite a few broke dogs bought by guys that had no idea what they were doing turned into really trashy dogs over the years, lol.

I have also encountered dogs that would run cats and coons that flat out wouldn't run bear. They have been the minority, but does happen. Not all dogs run all game well. Some of the best bear dogs I have had couldn't catch a bobcat that was caught for them. Some were marginal cat dogs. Some were flat out impressive no matter what game they were put on.

Hope this helps some.

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Thanks man, I hope to land somewhere soon. My position with TVA is non existant as of 4/24/12.

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Originally posted by starplott
Usually changing critters is least of your worries. The biggest obstacle is usually scenting picture changes. Going from place of high humidity to dry dust and rock can take forever to acclimate dogs.

Getting dogs from CA was always a 2 season chore for lion in Idaho. Dogs could catch the hell out of cats and lions in bear season, but ran around like idiots first season or two in the snow. Took em a while to learn to stick heads in snow up to their collars and blow in tracks. Some older dogs never acclimated.

Same with bringing dogs use to wet snow down to dry dusty snow. Or bringing dogs use to a lot of ground scent in wet areas down to the dust. They don't tend to lick rocks to grab scent.

Seen many 'broke' dogs take to other critters with a little help and encouragement. Seen quite a few broke dogs bought by guys that had no idea what they were doing turned into really trashy dogs over the years, lol.

I have also encountered dogs that would run cats and coons that flat out wouldn't run bear. They have been the minority, but does happen. Not all dogs run all game well. Some of the best bear dogs I have had couldn't catch a bobcat that was caught for them. Some were marginal cat dogs. Some were flat out impressive no matter what game they were put on.

Hope this helps some.

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Chris,

You are certainly welcome.Keep me posted if you land the job.
Rob Gregory

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Chris .

I think pride will be pearty much set in his ways as a coon dog but good news there is pockets off coon in AZ and there is a club that has ukc watter races in AZ so you will be able to finish pride to watter champion. What i woud do is breed ya a good bitch or 2 to pride and bring ya some young dogs out to AZ or breed um in az . Then buy ya the best dry ground lion dog you can find and traine your pride pups whith him or her then you will have you a good lion catching pack in time . Also there is a man that traines lion dogs in AZ for customers you might send 2 pride pups or 2 young english females to that you latter want to breed to pride to him to traine on lion for ya if you need his number just pm me .. Hope this helps .

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Melson's Big Game kennels. home to some decent English dogs ,one leopard and 2 red dogs who are nice dogs to . We hunt bear and coon also a few bobcats and a few grey fox . I am not color blind.

Great hound hunters of the past quotes I like and live buy .
"Its not the legnth off the ears it whats betwen the ears "- lester Nance
" "If you did not see it in the tree it did not happen" -Herb kennedy
" I live to hunt and I hunt to live " - Henry McIntyre

Joe thanks for the advice. If I get the chance to move out there Im going to take it, your advice sounds very good!!

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I did not get the position in northern AZ. Guys I appreciate the information. Thanks.

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Sorry to hear it Chris. Keep trying!

Ken

Thanks wildman, Im going to hang in there like a rusty fish hook!!!

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Chriss I don't know what you do or if you can cross it into things the oil field needs but the oil belt is needing about everything right now. Okla. the Dakotas, Texas about all of it and it pays well.

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Thanks for the info on the oil field jobs, my grandpa was a graduate of Oklahoma University. He was a Geologist, he traveled across America for the oil companies in the late 40's - 60's.

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The oilfield is booming most places, and related work can about always be found by a person willing to learn and work. I've been in Oilfield related work for over forty years and never been out of a job very long........

We use to live where we work, and many of us still do. However, lots of companies hire all over the country and people fly back and forth to camp jobs..

I moved West (from the mid-west) as a young man and have never regretted it.....

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