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Posted by Sawblade on 04-22-2013 01:34 PM:

The "NEW" List

I got it,I got It. There are definitly some dogs that have moved up and there are some new faces on both lists. Some studs that we better be trying out also. Great to see who owns them and where they came from also.

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Proud Breeder of the following dogs
GrNiteCh Sawblade Fiddle "no.5 historical female
QuadGrCh Yellow River Red Blaze
GrNiteCh Copeland's Red Hot Clyde
GrNiteCh Stone's Midnight Red Jake
NiteCh Brights Choctaw Night Time Sissy
NiteCh Sawblade Red Reckon
NiteCh Brasee Red Penny
NiteCh Nacalus Mandolin
Yellow River Fiddle II " good reproducer"
NiteCh Krasa Sawblade Quikstuf Bone
GrNiteCh Krasa Hair Trigger Hope
GrNiteCH Locked and Loaded Jake
GrNiteCh Moonlight Woody
NiteCh Sawblade Mac Truck " Jake and Hopes' brother"
NiteCh After Dark Spark " brother to Fiddle"
NiteCh Morgan's Boone " sister to Fiddle"
NiteCh High Water June " out of Reckon"
NiteCh Sawblade Timberline Rusty
Sawblade Ribbon,

They are bred with heart and drive included.

From a small kennel with Big results.

Posted by Richard Lambert on 04-22-2013 03:02 PM:

Re: The "NEW" List

quote:
Originally posted by Sawblade
I got it,I got It.

Are you going to post it for everyone to see or are you going to just tease us with it???.......Are the newer dogs on the list out of older dogs on the list or are they just "out of the blue" crosses? Are the newer dogs on the list the result of linebreeding or outcrosses? Can you make any conclusions from reading the list? Do you have any new theories after studying the list? I have lots of questions. Do you have any answers?

Posted by runnin rebels on 04-22-2013 03:06 PM:

how many are over 15 % reproduction percentage?

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NITECH PR. THE RUNNIN REBEL COWBOY JR DOG 2012 World Hunt Qualified

Posted by Richard Lambert on 04-22-2013 03:10 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by runnin rebels
how many are over 15 % reproduction percentage?

A 20% reproduction rate would be 2 pups out of a litter of 10. Is that a good litter?

Posted by Sawblade on 04-22-2013 04:03 PM:

yes

Richard the answer to all of the questions you asked is..Yes !!

The list is for the top reproducing 50 males and top 50 females. The list also reports the current owner and the breeder of the dog in addition to the total number of pups produced. The requirements to make the list were as follows.
Dog must have had at least one offspring make NiteCh or GrNiteCh in the last 5 years, The dogs are listed in order from1 thru 50 starting with the dog that has produced the highest number of GrNiteCh and NiteCh combined and going down from there. Ties are broken based on highest % of titled offspring.

I will post it along with the list from 2 years ago so we can see if we are getting any better at the breeding thing. Just a note; it took 4 titled offspring to make the top 50 male list and 13 of the 50 males had less than the 100 pup limit that is required to make the Bloodlines list. Interesting..

Posted by runnin rebels on 04-22-2013 04:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
A 20% reproduction rate would be 2 pups out of a litter of 10. Is that a good litter?

according to % and the reproducers list yes it is, but if you step back and look at it I think not.

8 of 10 were unable to title out. if you sold the litter to 10 people who competition hunt 8 of them were dissappointed.

I know some have a win and are looking for a first, some got hit on the road, some didn;t get a chance ...bla bla bla

it is the same across the board for all breeds with these excuses.

but the top #$%&&@* Breed males are in the 20% range. Why are the top redbones in 12%-2% on the top 10 reproducers list?

lets get some reproducers in the 20% range redbone people!

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NITECH PR. THE RUNNIN REBEL COWBOY JR DOG 2012 World Hunt Qualified

Posted by Sawblade on 04-22-2013 06:05 PM:

% just as good

We all know we can't compete with the walkers.bla bla bla. as some say
I think we're doing pretty good just looking at % , if we took the top ten by % all would be over 10% and as high as 18.2% we just produce a lot less pups. It may sound like an excuss but it is the truth. Also % tend to go up as more pups finish out at least for the good reproducers that is how it has worked.

Posted by rickp on 04-22-2013 06:21 PM:

A top producing TW will have about as many pups as the top ten Redbones combined. With many top comp .type bred females .But % arent much better . But you take a dog with 2000 pups 10% titled pups and half of those titiled pups are females thats still 100 chances to breed to a top female out of one stud dog . If they are bred twice 200 chances and so on .

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GRNITECH GRCH PRUITT'S REBEL RED(GRNITECH GRCH PR KEYS OUTLAW RAZOR RED XGRCH CCH TREE RIZIN SOME KINDA WONDERFUL)
GRNITECH PRUITT'S BUCK (NITE CHAMPION PRUITT'S CHIEF X PRUITT'S MISS MOLLY)
NITE CHAMPION PRUITT'S CHIEF ( GRCH GRNITECH T-TOP DARK TIMBER MOOSE CH SOGGYBOTTOM LOCKET DOWN )
NITECH CH 'PR' TREE RIZIN' RAZOR'S RUSH ( RIP )(GRNITECH GRCH' KEY'S OUTLAW RAZOR RED X GRNITECH GRCH'PR' SOGGY BOTTOM T-TOP SHADOW)
NITECH PRUITT'S MAGGIE MAE (GRNITECH THE RED ROCKER X GRNITECH CH PR GUITAR'S GHOST MISSISSIPPI )
PRUITT'S MISS MOLLY ( CH YELLOW RIVER RED COPPER X FICKEN'S LATE NIGHT STAR )

Posted by wade lucking on 04-22-2013 08:56 PM:

Are all dogs on the list currently living or available for frozen semen.

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"A FAMILY OF DUAL PURPOSE HOUNDS THAT CONTINUES ON GENERATION AFTER GENERATION"
Home of:

'Pr' Lucking's Code Red Mountain Dew ( Owned by chad porter and myself) ( Daughter of Desperado) 2 1st place wins ukc nite hunt. 1 best of show with comp , bench show.

'Pr' Lucking's Northern Red Tucker

AND THE PAST:
NT.CH.CH.LUCKING'S KN. LAKE TROOPER
NT.CH.GR.CH.LUCKING'S RAISIN KANE(son of trooper)
NT.CH.CH. LUCKING'S MAD MAGGIE(niece to tornado)
GR.CH.NT.CH.LUCKING'S RED TORNADO(son of trooper)
NT.CH.GR.CH.L&I RED HOT WYLIE(son of tornado)
'pr'lucking's northern red cowgirl (daughter of wylie)(needs just a 1st given to mark barnett)
nt.ch.gr.ch.Lucking's Midnite Desperado (son of cowgirl)(sold to bill tabler)
Nt.Ch.Ch. Desperado's Midnite 3 D(son of Desperado) (given to larry tabler)

Posted by Sawblade on 04-22-2013 09:46 PM:

read

I listed the requirements. living isn't one of them . Offspring that have earned a hunt title GrNiteCh or NiteCh in the last 5 years is what is required.

Posted by rickp on 04-22-2013 11:40 PM:

Are all the current and historical dogs on the UKC list on the new list ?

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