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Posted by joey on 04-26-2019 02:34 PM:

Rip?????

No one on here knows as much about a thyroid as you do so I have a question. How many thyroids do you see destroyed by meds or outside chemical sources?

The reason I asked is because I have a friend that worked for the University of Arkansas doing field crop studies. He did it for 5 years. Before he did it he was healthy as a horse. Now he has a list of auto immune problems. From celiac disease, unexplained trimmers and a rare form of asthma. He is 55 and never had a health problem before this.

So what are all these chemicals we are giving our dogs to protect them from hart worms, ticks and flees doing to their system? I have a hard time believing that we can give a animal a pill that the makes it where if a tick bites them it dies and not have some sort of problem? Its not like its a one time thing we are doing it every 30 days.

Also a lot of us are running our dogs in these crop fields with no information if the field was just sprayed with a deadly chemical that day or week. No way it isn't doing something to them? Can you give me your thoughts please.

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Posted by MR.RATMAN on 04-26-2019 05:08 PM:

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Posted by yadkintar on 04-26-2019 05:49 PM:

I talked to rip last night it’s easier than on here. He has the same issues everybody else is having. He has three thyroid dogs of his own.

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Posted by Rip on 04-26-2019 08:37 PM:

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Originally posted by yadkintar
I talked to rip last night it’s easier than on here. He has the same issues everybody else is having. He has three thyroid dogs of his own.

Tar

Yep two genetic and one from some other cause. He wasn't a thyroid dog until he was retired from hunting and was 9 years old.

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Posted by Rip on 04-26-2019 08:44 PM:

Re: Rip?????

quote:
Originally posted by joey
No one on here knows as much about a thyroid as you do so I have a question. How many thyroids do you see destroyed by meds or outside chemical sources?

The reason I asked is because I have a friend that worked for the University of Arkansas doing field crop studies. He did it for 5 years. Before he did it he was healthy as a horse. Now he has a list of auto immune problems. From celiac disease, unexplained trimmers and a rare form of asthma. He is 55 and never had a health problem before this.

So what are all these chemicals we are giving our dogs to protect them from hart worms, ticks and flees doing to their system? I have a hard time believing that we can give a animal a pill that the makes it where if a tick bites them it dies and not have some sort of problem? Its not like its a one time thing we are doing it every 30 days.

Also a lot of us are running our dogs in these crop fields with no information if the field was just sprayed with a deadly chemical that day or week. No way it isn't doing something to them? Can you give me your thoughts please.

This is a very complex issue. I know more about humans than dogs because well dogs are different. Humans only need to be dosed once per day and dogs twice and other things. Humans would be dead with the readings that dogs can have and all it does to them is make them feel bad and gain weight where as a human would be in a coma.

That said there is no way to know exactly what is the cause of any particular thyroid problem except to test for known genetic issues with thyroid (MEN I and MEN II in humans as well as other issues). It is my understanding that dogs have certain genetics that cause it as well and some of them can be tested for so if they test positive then they will pass it on to their offspring.

I will give you and example. We know for an absolute fact that radiation causes thyroid dysfunction and thyroid cancer. That is one of the questions we ask when someone has a worry about thyroid cancer. I wear a special collar that protects my thyroid from radiation in the operating room when I am using Xray during a case. It is that important that I put up with a led apron over my chest and waist down to my knees PLUS the special lead collar.

Chemicals cause it, too much or too little iodine.

Yes there is a risk from anything that they are run in, tick diseases we know can cause it in both humans and dogs but I would also bet many of the things they spray on the fields can cause it as well.

As for the medications we give for ticks and things. They are studied pretty well before they are put out there. Could some of them cause it? Never say never but I would put those medications low on my list of suspicions because if it did that in the clinical testing they would come up with a different drug. Sometimes we find out long term effects later (10 years or so) that we didn't know when the drug was released but for the most part drugs in the US are pretty safe.

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