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Posted by Faithful Hunter on 06-06-2019 05:45 PM:

English Dogs

Why do some English dogs have little to no ticking?


Posted by sleepy head on 06-06-2019 06:13 PM:

Diverse gene pool, several colors are accepted, without looking I think there is around 7 different colors a combos to pick from when reg.


Posted by H DOG on 06-06-2019 07:45 PM:

That is the walker in them 🐒


Posted by Faithful Hunter on 06-06-2019 08:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by H DOG
That is the walker in them 🐒


I was wondering if that was it?


Posted by N Williams on 06-06-2019 09:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by H DOG
That is the walker in them 🐒


The walker came from the English dogs. Back in the day English made up walkers and blutics. The 2 breeds separated from the English to form there own with more color specific traits.


Posted by Ashley Pratt on 06-06-2019 09:37 PM:

I’m pretty sure the walkers came from foxhounds that treed.


Posted by N Williams on 06-06-2019 09:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ashley Pratt
I’m pretty sure the walkers came from foxhounds that treed.


Believe it was called the English fox hound. I believe I remember reading about 10 years ago it was in the 1940s when the breeds separated and read about all this. It was on the internet and it may have not been 100% accurate. But the way I understood the reading is the 3 breeds were once one.


Posted by sleepy head on 06-06-2019 09:49 PM:

These are the hounds and the people who owned them and gave us the dogs we have today. As you can see, each strain had a phenotype (physical characteristic) which identified them from the others. If a man had hounds, raised and bred them for his own use, these hounds then reflected on that man. They were given that man’s name for identification purposes, as a strain of dogs. Through many years of breeding, all of the dogs mentioned here were at one time or another crossed on each other and were finally to become known in 1903 by U.K.C. as the English Coonhound.

When these dogs became known as the English breed, standards were set: height, length, color, ear length, etc. Breeders started to follow this standard which was set up by the U.K.C. and the breed association. After seeing what they were capable of producing, houndsmen started to breed for certain colors.

By 1943, the breed was producing four different colors of hounds. The original English, which was white and any good hound color (may I add still remains so today); the solid blue dog (Bluetick); the tri-colored dog (Walker); and the Redtick hound.

In 1945 the Bluetick and Walker separated from the English breed and were chartered by U.K.C. as separate breeds. We then had six breeds of coon hounds. There was a Redtick association formed, but never developed into its own breed. A lot of breeders will state they have a strain of Walkers or Blueticks that is pure. The truth is, if they go back five to seven generations in the pedigree of known ancestry, there will be some or all English hounds.


Posted by DL NH on 06-06-2019 10:07 PM:

1967? World Ch. Vanzant's Sam

Find a color picture of him and you'll swear he was a walker dog. I believe he was single registered as an English dog. That dog had a lot to do with Berton Oney's name becoming widely known.

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Posted by Faithful Hunter on 06-07-2019 12:41 AM:

I just bought a pup that has very little to no ticks. He has Main Street and Hard time in his pedigree. That’s the reason I was asking.


Posted by N Williams on 06-07-2019 02:56 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Faithful Hunter
I just bought a pup that has very little to no ticks. He has Main Street and Hard time in his pedigree. That’s the reason I was asking.


Your dog has a lot of hard time speck in him. Speck was a walker but was black and white with ticks so the walker breed made him be registered English. That was when the walkers were trying to get rid of ticks in the breed. Believe he won the world 2 times. Once as a walker and once as an English. Im not 100% on all this just what many have told me.


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