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Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 09-25-2019 01:43 PM:

How much hunting does a dog need?

Once I find a dog that can tree a coon, I often find myself wondering how much hunting does this dog need to be as good as it can be? Does it really need a bunch of woods hours to maximize its ability or will it be as good with a few hunts a week? We are talking about young dogs here, say 12 to 24 months old.

Just curious what you guys have seen.

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Posted by KYHoundDawg on 09-25-2019 02:24 PM:

That’s definitely a question on most competition Coon hunters minds. How much time do you take away from sleep, family, work and other things you like to do so a dog can excel. For me, I notice dogs dog through a lot of changes from 1-3 years old. Some mature sooner some not so depends on the dog for me but at 1-2 I say gotta hunt them as much as possible. Sorry that was vague!

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Posted by yadkintar on 09-25-2019 02:37 PM:

I always try and end a hunt on a positive note. It took me till 2:00 this morning to accomplish that lol.



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Posted by Richard Lambert on 09-25-2019 02:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by KYHoundDawg
That’s definitely a question on most competition Coon hunters mind. How much time do you take away from sleep, family, work and other things you like to do so a dog can excel......


Every dog is different but you balance "excel" with time. The more time, the more "excel".
The question on my mind was always, how much time do I take away from coonhunting for work, sleep and family. But that sure got me in a lot of trouble with my boss and wife. I guess that is why I went through several jobs and several wives.


Posted by Richard Lambert on 09-25-2019 02:48 PM:

Tarbaby, if your dog runs out and jams a coon in 5 min at 100 yds, do you load him up and go home?


Posted by Bob Hennessey on 09-25-2019 04:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
I always try and end a hunt on a positive note. It took me till 2:00 this morning to accomplish that lol.



Tar



x2 sometimes it doesn't work, but if you can the majority of the time it sure helps, both the dog and myself.

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Posted by yadkintar on 09-25-2019 04:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Tarbaby, if your dog runs out and jams a coon in 5 min at 100 yds, do you load him up and go home?



Right now while it’s hot you ain’t a woofen !! It always turns to dookie if I get greedy 😂


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Posted by Richard Lambert on 09-25-2019 05:06 PM:

I left home at 8 Mon night and got back home at 9. I got to see the last half of the Voice.


Posted by Josh Michaelis on 09-25-2019 05:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
I always try and end a hunt on a positive note. It took me till 2:00 this morning to accomplish that lol.



Tar



I prefer the opposite. Especially with an older dog.

Last thing that dog should want is put in a kennel. Hate to punish them after they do a good job.

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Posted by yadkintar on 09-25-2019 05:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
I prefer the opposite. Especially with an older dog.

Last thing that dog should want is put in a kennel. Hate to punish them after they do a good job.





Made 4 dumps last night the last one was 900 yrds one way all on foot I don’t care how the dog feels I was pooped.


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Posted by Preacher Tom on 09-25-2019 07:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
I prefer the opposite. Especially with an older dog.

Last thing that dog should want is put in a kennel. Hate to punish them after they do a good job.



Josh but my dog does perfect every time I turn him loose. I could never go home! I hope you know this is a joke. Mine is far from perfect.

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Posted by yadkintar on 09-26-2019 01:17 PM:

I hunt for fun depends on how much fun I am having as to how long I hunt lol.


Tar


Posted by Richard Lambert on 09-26-2019 01:40 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
I hunt for fun depends on how much fun I am having as to how long I hunt lol.
Tar



Finally, a post that makes sense and I can agree with.
And it sure is hard to get motivated to go if you don't think that you are going to have fun.


Posted by Cry Tough Blues on 09-26-2019 03:25 PM:

Hunt the hair off of him. You’ll know when enough is enough . Your dog will tell you.

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Posted by tommygunner on 09-26-2019 04:17 PM:

Yadkintar I drove by your house 3 times you were in there on the computer hunting


Posted by joey on 09-26-2019 04:35 PM:

Its something that takes time and learning that particular dog. With a young dog it's worked better for me to hunt as many nights as I can for a couple of hours a night. If the dog starts going backwards then slack off. What I have found is if a dog is being hunted regularly and starts screwing up, more hunting has never fixed them. Sometimes they need a break.

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Posted by Cotton 1927 on 09-26-2019 08:16 PM:

Hunting

Dogs cannot tell time, it's the outcome of the hunt that makes the difference,a 3 hour poor hunt or a 30 minute great hunt you tell me when you would rather put a lead on your hound......


Posted by 2ol2hunt on 09-26-2019 10:15 PM:

Always felt like quitting on a good note seems to keep their mind right when they were younger.


Posted by novicane65 on 09-27-2019 01:25 AM:

Okay if you're talking about a young and not so experienced pup, then quality over quantity. But at 18+ months and its had a decent amount of time hunting then it should be pushed pretty hard, like 5-7 nights a week for a few months. My way doesn't always work for everyone but it works for me.

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Posted by Reuben on 09-27-2019 02:45 AM:

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Originally posted by novicane65
Okay if you're talking about a young and not so experienced pup, then quality over quantity. But at 18+ months and its had a decent amount of time hunting then it should be pushed pretty hard, like 5-7 nights a week for a few months. My way doesn't always work for everyone but it works for me.


I like what you said...”QUALITY OVER QUANTITY”... I believe in doing my very best in doing the right things at the right times to get the best out of my dogs and pups...

And I don’t waste much time on one that doesn’t show the potential I expect...

The good ones don’t need lots of hunting to be good hunting dogs but then again I don’t competition hunt...just like in pro football...even the best practice...perfect practice brings out the best...there also is such a thing as over training...

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Posted by Rocketman55 on 09-27-2019 05:04 AM:

How much hunting

How much hunting really depends on just what exactly you are trying to prepare for.

If your trying to hunt just enough to keep your dog from getting completely bored and start chewing up their dog box, probably 1 night per week 3-4 hours per night

If you are preparing for an upcoming pleasure hunt, probably 1-2 nights per week, 3 to 4 hours per night.

If you are preparing for a local ukc hunt, probably 3-4 nights per week, 3-4 hours per night, for a minimum of 3 weeks

If you are preparing a world Qualifier, probably 3-4 nights per week, for 8 weeks, 4-6 hours per night

If you are preparing for the zones, probably 4-5 nights per week, for 8-12 weeks, 6-8 hours per night.

I bet every hound that made the top 16 of the UKC world hunt, hunted harder than the hours mentioned above.

but to own a top notch hound, you MUST prepare at a top notch pace, to expect TOP NOTCH results.

I remember Drawing Goose Creek Slugger and Mr. Mark Jones a few times and the commitment he explained to me that he was giving to that hound left me in Awe of what it actually took to compete in the Purina circuit for Purina Outstanding Coonhound of the Year.

these numbers I have mentioned above are only a drop in the bucket of what the truly successful competition hunters are committing.

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Posted by yadkintar on 09-27-2019 11:25 AM:

So if you are a die hard , hard core , big daddy ,super coonhunter , getting your dog ready for competition would you hunt your dog in :

1. In a blizzard ?
2. In an ice storm ?
3.in 90+ degree heat early in the night when the coons don’t move till late ?
4. In hunted out woods that you probly wouldn’t tree a coon in on a good night ?

Any old doggie that’s been in this game a while knows three quality nights hunting is better than 6 bad ones especially down here where it’s rough and I ain’t in no coon zoo.

Without a coon in the woods it’s just woods.

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Posted by pamjohnson on 09-27-2019 02:00 PM:

Tar the dog doesn't mind those conditions nearly as much as the handler. But quality over quantity is generally best.


Posted by steeb_63 on 09-27-2019 02:28 PM:

A dog is like an athlete practice makes perfect so the nights it hot muggy and miserable get up and go and it should pay off

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Posted by Josh Michaelis on 09-27-2019 02:28 PM:

Some dogs don't take hard hunting well. Some thrive on it.

Most are not given the best opportunity to succeed because the handler can't recognize which one they actually need.

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