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Posted by Diamond E Farms on 12-29-2020 11:17 AM:

Hard Going, Overly Independent, Big mouth?

What lines of red dogs are known for being really hard going, by that i mean over 1/2 regularly in thin coon......

What lines are known for being overly independent??

What lines are known for big mouths??

Can anyone name a few known dogs that were Bawl mouth treedogs???

Ive been out of the redbone breed for a while, just doing a little checking around, thanks.

Posted by Bill Lash on 12-29-2020 10:01 PM:

drive

As far as I'm concerned Fireball put exceptional drive into that line, My old Rowdy was Fireball / Timber Jack bred would get in there deep and so did his offspring, he also was a bawl mouth tree dog. He was a young mans dog here in the hills.

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Posted by Diamond E Farms on 12-30-2020 02:45 AM:

thank you sir for that input!

Posted by oklared on 12-30-2020 02:10 PM:

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Posted by Diamond E Farms on 12-31-2020 05:07 PM:

Leonard I just talked to you on sunday and you had nothing for sale that was hunted at all?? Did you get one trained between then and now??

Posted by oklared on 01-01-2021 03:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Diamond E Farms
Leonard I just talked to you on sunday and you had nothing for sale that was hunted at all?? Did you get one trained between then and now??

IM NOT LEONARD, IM DON HICKS I JUST SUGGESTED YOU CALL LEONARD ABOUT WHAT TYPE DOGS RUSTY THROWS , THEY GO ,THEY ARE LOUD, AND ARE INDEPENDENT, I WASNT SAYING HE HAD ANY FOR SALE READY TO GO, SORRY IF I CONFUSED YOU

Posted by Diamond E Farms on 01-01-2021 03:49 PM:

Yea i thought you were Leonard. Both of yall have user names with OK something in it...lol

Posted by thecoondawg76 on 01-04-2021 05:54 AM:

Re: drive

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Originally posted by Bill Lash
As far as I'm concerned Fireball put exceptional drive into that line, My old Rowdy was Fireball / Timber Jack bred would get in there deep and so did his offspring, he also was a bawl mouth tree dog. He was a young mans dog here in the hills.

For sure. I started with an independent Fireball female but then bred her to Twister #1 producing son of Fireball. He produced independence too. That whole litter were by themselves most of the time and had hunt to spare. Lost half the litter to running off and owners not having tracking systems to find them and losing them. Then bred a female from that to Rocky #2 producing son of Fireball. Picked up a huge loud mouth and winding ability from that while keeping independence.
That same basic blood with the only real addition of Sawblade Fiddle has kept me in this kind of hound for about 20 years now every since putting that all together. But all mine are bawl chop on the ground. Screaming locate and steady chop on the tree.
Got a grandson of Rowdy here now that carries many of these same traits.
I know Jeff Young had a Quad Grand male out of Rocky and Fiddle that was also that way and a bawl mouth tree dog.

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And the closest ones alive to GrNtCh Oklahoma Twister (the #1 reproducing son of Fireball) and GrNtCh Yellow River Rocky (the #2 reproducing son of Fireball) . Thanks to alot of help from my friends.

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NtCh GrCh "PR" Dan Langston (Has 2 wins towards GrNtCh in the hunts) ( 10yr old owner asked for me to bring him back to his home) (wouldn't sell) (Ch D8 Dozer (bear hound from all coondog stock, out of my breeding) x NtCh Music/ Kitty) (33% Fireball thru heavy line breeding the highest GrNtCh Fireball blooded hound alive, who is hunt titled )

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'PR' Atomic Fireball's Harry Lady (GrNtCh. Barnyard Horse Harry x GrCh Daisy (was the highest Fireball blooded female alive)

'PR' Atomic Fireball's Toes ('PR' Atomic Fireball's Fast Talker (nephew to Bookem Danno) x 'PR' Atomic Fireball's Harry Lady

'PR' Atomic Fireball's Little Dixie (NtCh GrCh. 'PR' Dan Langston x 'PR'Harry Lady)

'PR' Atomic Fireball's Two Toes (NtCh GrCh Dan Langston x Atomic Fireball's Toes
Didn't have the deep hunt style I like but is a solid coonhound. Been treeing her own since her second night in the woods at 8 months old.

Former home of:
(Qualified for the 2011 World Hunt) NtCh. 'PR'Swann's Lonesome Red Music/ Kitty RIP (NtCh.Twister's Musical Red Huey x NtCh. Sawblade Red Reckon) RIP

GrNtCh Fireball's Jackpot Jackie, highest placing Redbone female ever, in the UKC World Hunt . RIP

GrCh. 'PR' Atomic Fireball's Little Daisy RIP (Was the highest GrNtCh Fireball blooded female in the world at the time) (Qualified for the 2010 World Show).

'PR' Atomic Fireball's Red River (Daisy x Brown's Oklahoma Twister) RIP (heatstroke)

Ch. D-8 Dozer (Was the Highest blooded GrNtCh Fireball blooded male in the world until I had the GrNtCh Twister pups from here) Was sent to be bear hunted because of his size and me being disabled. RIP

First and only sons of the Old GrNtCh #7 Historical Reproducer Brown's Okl. Twister (the #1 Producing Son of Fireball) in 15 years..

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Posted by Diamond E Farms on 01-04-2021 11:27 AM:

As odd as it may be I actually prefer a bawl mouth treedog!

Posted by oklared on 01-04-2021 06:46 PM:

RUSTY ALSO HAS BEEN BRED TO DONNIE STOCKTON'S CAT AND BEAR DOGS THESE PUPS WILL RUN HARD ON EITHER

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