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Posted by DL NH on 07-20-2023 12:52 AM:

Pleasure dog? What’s your definition?

What’s your definition of a pleasure hunters coon hound?

Here’s mine! I hunted with this hound many nights in the 1980’s. I had a decent blue female that though was not his equal made a good running mate with him. Drum was a top coon dog with any company………in that day!

Most who frequent this board would not like this dog. He was a pleasure hunters joy in my book.

His name was PR NITE CHAMPION ROBINSON’S BLUE DRUM

SIRE: PR Vaughn’s Mack II

DAM: PR Fly’s Bugle Ann (Vaughn & Jocasee Valley bred)

This dog was a pleasure hunters dream in my book. Wicked cold nosed dog. Took his tracks as they came. Gave mouth according to the track. Medium speed. Opened on some tracks that occasionally he couldn’t finish.
He could be called off those if you wanted to.

Very long bawl on track, dying bawl rolling into a steady rhythmical chop on tree. Would stand pressure on tree. Medium hunter. He was not ill at the tree but wouldn’t be driven off by one that was.

This dog got his 1st place in Virginia in the midst of a snow storm at a UKC hunt. I believe there was only a couple of casts that showed up to hunt. He was the only dog that treed a coon.

Nothing showy about this dog. He just got it done night after night with company or alone. He was a dog that worked with his owner as a team. He’d hunt out for 20-30 minutes and check in if he didn’t strike. He didn’t hang around your feet but he didn’t straight line it. He hunted the country you put him in.

Dogs like him were hard to find in the ‘80’s. My guess is there near extinct now.

I fully realize probably 90% of the folks coon hunting today wouldn’t feed this dog. I was blessed to have had the pleasure of hunting with this dog many nights and would love to have him today.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 07-20-2023 02:46 AM:

Pleasure dog

Dan, your description fits my definition of a pleasure dog. I definitely want a dog that takes their tracks as they come, a dog with nose enough to finish the track and have the coon. I do NOT enjoy a hot nosed ambush style coon dog. In my early years coon were scarce in these mountains and it took a colder nosed dog to get the job done. I loved listening to a good dog working a cold trail up and getting the coon treed, still do. I am finding fewer and fewer dogs with the nose I like. Most hunters today want a hot nosed popup coon treeing dog, NOT me. Coon are worthless today and I want the thrill of a good cold nosed dog working the track up and treeing the right tree, eyes looking down when I get there. I get my thrill with this type of dog as numbers do not mean nothing to me, quality means every thing. I understand that for competition my kind of dog usually gets beat in these days of plenty coons and hunting for the score card. I have done both types both pleasure hunting and competition hunting, I enjoy both, but love pleasure hunting way more. Dave

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Posted by MOcoondogs on 07-20-2023 04:09 PM:

I have 1 of those kind of pleasure hounds right now. He takes his tracks as he comes to them, but sometimes it's a slow process getting an old cold track finished and a long walk in to him. Other times it's a hot, quick, short race that never gets out of hearing. He's not perfect but we always expect to make a tree with a coon every time we turn him loose. I have others that I enjoyed better than this 1 but they were dogs from 20 + years ago so I feel very fortunate to have 1 of this caliber now!


Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 07-20-2023 11:19 PM:

For me it is a dog that does everything fast. It goes hunting fast, it strikes honest and fast, it runs the track fast and it makes up its mind and gets trees accurately more times than not fast.

I'm busy and tired. The faster they tree coon the more pleasurable it is for me. I just dont have any interest in standing in the dark woods waiting for a dog to methodically hunt around 200 acres. I want their nose in the air and not taking every step the coon did.

Reality is though, a pleasure dog is one you enjoy. Pleasures may vary.

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Posted by shadinc on 07-21-2023 05:43 PM:

My number one trait in a pleasure dog is accuracy. If I walk 600 yards through the swamp, briars, mosquitoes, and snakes, only to look at a tree, that's displeasure; the exact opposite of why I left the house. I'll sacrifice a little speed, voice volume, and dirt kicked in my face upon release. Even 40 or 50 barks per minute to see eyes when I get there.

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Posted by Preacher Tom on 07-21-2023 05:44 PM:

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Originally posted by shadinc
My number one trait in a pleasure dog is accuracy. If I walk 600 yards through the swamp, briars, mosquitoes, and snakes, only to look at a tree, that's displeasure; the exact opposite of why I left the house. I'll sacrifice a little speed, voice volume, and dirt kicked in my face upon release. Even 40 or 50 barks per minute to see eyes when I get there.


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Posted by ridgerunner1 on 07-22-2023 12:49 AM:

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Posted by Dogwhisper on 07-23-2023 09:48 PM:

A "NATURAL" is a pleasure to hunt "period".


Posted by Dave Richards on 07-24-2023 01:08 AM:

Pleasure dog

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
My number one trait in a pleasure dog is accuracy. If I walk 600 yards through the swamp, briars, mosquitoes, and snakes, only to look at a tree, that's displeasure; the exact opposite of why I left the house. I'll sacrifice a little speed, voice volume, and dirt kicked in my face upon release. Even 40 or 50 barks per minute to see eyes when I get there.



You got that right, accuracy is a must for me. Our mountains are way to steep and rugged to follow any dog that misses a lot. You could not give me a dog that I don't think they have the coon every time they tree. Now before anyone comments that none are perfect and have every coon they tree, I know that. They better have one a high majority of the time. I have given dogs away that would suit most folks, but NOT me. Dave

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Posted by Reuben on 07-24-2023 02:20 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dogwhisper
A "NATURAL" is a pleasure to hunt "period".


I partially agree…a natural is beyond pleasurable…

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