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Giving Credit To Paul Gregg
Its the season of giving and often the owners of the Winners get all the credit, when the actual hard work and credit should go someone else. Paul Gregg and his Uncle, Carl Colvin have never received the respect that they deserve in my opinion. The Stylish line of dogs from old Queen traces back to Paul Gregg and his Banjo Style, Rowdy dog. Females from Rowdy were highly valued out of Stud dog owners as they made their Studs famous.
I hunted several times with Paul in the City Limits of Kansas City where it was illegal to hunt with a gun, so Paul used tree climbing spikes. When those tree climbing spikes started squeaking and rattling the dogs went silent and you could hear a pin drop.
Do a SEARCH on Paul Gregg, a dog breeder that never got the recognition he deserved before his accidental death. Paul was a logger.
When the dogs went quiet…I can see it in my minds eye…they went quiet anticipating the coons exit from the tree…quietness would pinpoint the exact location and ready for battle or chase…
That reminds me of a time as a little kid I hunted a pack of mix breeds…I would sweep an area with my dogs and we would catch most anything that had 4 legs that wasn’t livestock…and in the outskirts of some of the properties were encircled by huge rose hedges what were actually used as fencing for cattle…there were gaps here and there for entering and exiting…I hunted my dogs away from those hedges on account most the time game would get away into those hedges before the dogs could catch and once in more than likely the game got away…sometimes if it looked like there was a chance, a quick hiss to get the dogs attention and a hand signal, we immediately went into the stealth mode…all very quiet and we only moved forward when I moved…once I thought we were close enough we charged ahead…sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn’t…
The story below…when I searched for Paul Gregg I found this post and I thought anyone who loves great bloodlines and dogs of the past would enjoy reading it…
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The Banjo Story
Many years ago Paul Gregg, bought a young hound from Estil Kline, Centerville, Kansas.
He was bred by Carl Colvin, Garnett, Kansas, from a line of dogs Carl brought in from Mr. Newton in Indiana.
Anyway, at that time Johnsons Banjo was the big name when it came to Tree Dogs and James Merchant, the greatest coon hunter.
This young dogs mother, Old Princess, bred by Carl Colvin, showed Johnsons Banjo top and bottom on a threegeneration pedigree.
This young hound had a Super Big Beautiful Mouth, and was a Stylish tree dog.
Thus his registered nam Greggs Banjo Style!
This young hound would be Pauls first Grand Nite CH.
Banjo Style was bred to 17 differant females in his lifetime.
Most of his better pups lived and died belonging to good friends of Paul.
Carl Colvin, made the first super crosses: Indians Queen to a dog directly from a cross of Finley River Chief to a sister of Houses Chief, producing Old Princess; Indiana Rock to a heavy sailer bred female producing Banjo Rock, then first cousins Rock ex Princess.
This cross produced Banjo Style.
These dogs were oustanding reproducers. The males had much better mouths than was common in the walker breed at that time.
The next notable step in this line of hounds is when Alden Magatha , bred Sadie to Banjo Style.
This is where the Dew Claws came in. No female before and none after ever produced dew claws when bred to Banjo Style.
Many of the top dogs advertised today can be traced back to Banjo Style and his 17 matings one to several times.
It would be impsossible for me to list them all, so I will list a few of them and maybe you guys and gals can list some more.
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Hello Kler! I think this is a very interesting read - I know John Wick went WAY above and beyond trying to give Paul credit for the influence and importance of Banjo Style in Wick's "Stylish" line of dogs...he wrote about it in his books, mentioned it in articles and talked about Paul on a regular basis with customers on the phone and at events around the country......sadly, I don't think most folks think about these things. I believe Steve Fielder's podcasts and writings have done a GREAT job "preserving" some of the voices, stories and thoughts of the people who played such and important part in the history of our sport and it would have been nice if he'd been able to talk to Paul.
I first met Paul at the WOW store and talked to him two or three different times over the years when he stopped in at the store in Montgomery City....like many, in not just our sport but others, he probably doesn't get the credit he deserves.
Merry Christmas to All!
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Mark Zepp
Mark, I first met Paul Gregg at a night hunt in Sweet Springs or Sedalia in 1975, it’s been a while. Over the next couple years we drew each other maybe 3 times and he was always hunting Princess. The reason I mention this, I remember Danny Lowe hunting Banjo and, personally, I think Danny deserves a lot of credit for promoting Banjo. I also remember Danny hunting another notable winning dog, Crossroads Killer. Guess what im trying to say is Danny was always leading a winner. The date I met Paul could be incorrect, I was in that area 2 different times 75-77 and again 81-87.
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Good to hear from you Mr. Davis!
I think you're a prime example of this Sam. Look at the light game..Dane Phillips with the Nite Lite "Hot light" and Jim and Mark Gatton from Sunburst in the late 70's and early 80's.
I would argue, and easily win, that absolutely no single person has had more of an influence in the engineering and finding the right parts and pieces for the coon hunting lights that all of us use in this sport since then, than you.....and most folks don't know that fact or easily recognize your name.
I say a silent "Thank You Sam" every night I'm out there walking in the woods with todays bright lights.
Happy New Year Everybody!!
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Mark Zepp
Great read. Thank you all!
Thanks for sharing!
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