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"IF" the bench show standards are suppose to produce a better "hunting" hound than, Why in 40 years of World Show Champions (1985-2024) only 2 have a hunting degree?

It was brought up that most shows always have a nite hunt to also enter to get a nite hunt degree and I couldn't give a good answer to their question. So if anyone would let me know, I'll pass it on.

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Just from what I have witnessed at the local level. A lot of the show dogs are older people that can’t physically hunt anymore so they just show their dog to still be part of the club and in the coon hunting world. So they just show and BS with others at the club.

The big hunts is a little different those dogs are groomed/bred to be show dogs. You’ll never know but I’m sure those dogs can win in the hunts as well but just pushed in a different aspect of the sport.

I think the standards are put in place for each breed to just keep all the crazy cross bred stuff out that don’t conform. The bench shows keep that standard and it’s expected to cross over to the hunting stock, not so much be a pretty show dog and a big winner in the hunts as well. But I’m sure it’s possible.

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Winning the world hunt or the world bench show is not an easy task. The chance of one dog winning both in the same year would be pretty slim.

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Not sure if this is the correct reason but had someone point out some very interesting points. They said to look at the pictures of the 3 hounds competing in the final cast and the pictures of the 2 show winners. So I did. They said to notice how the legs and feet were on all. They said they had some veterinarian background and that a hound with straight legs from the pad to the shoulder would not be able to take hard hunting/running because of the strain it buts on the shoulder and joints?? They also said that the foot is were speed comes from and the fastest cat, Cheetah, doesn’t even have a cat foot?? So, I’m not a vet but have had a few hounds in 69 years and have to
admit that those are good points

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I had grand show champion that was hunted as hard as any dog could be hunted 7 nights a week on and on and it didn't bother his legs or feet. But he could have been the exception to the rule. I don't know I'm not a vet.either. one was a B&T and the other one was a Walker.

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In over 100 years of baseball how many pitchers have won a batting title? You can't be great at everything.

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I was just talking about entering a hunt and getting a Nite Ch title. Never expected them to win the World-TOC-or Oaks.

The question I was asked was why no hunt titles is all, and I didn’t have an answer so was just asking.

I guess you could say that most Batting Title winners are decent baseball players

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