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trevor0432
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How long before you make the call

I have an English male that just turned 15 months old. Hunts like crazy, opposite direction from the other dog, but will not say a word. He shows zero interest in a cage coon, will follow the track when I turn it loose but not say a word. Mingles around the tree it went up but nothing. He is driving me crazy. Should I just keep pushing him or when would you make the call to get rid of him?

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It's absolutely an individual call you have to make based on your personal situation. If you are busy, can afford a different dog, or you're just getting interested in hunting, you may want to give up sooner than later. If you are becoming frustrated to the point that you are not "helpful" to the dog then you should stop pushing him. I have seen dogs nearly 3 years old come out of this and be fine coonhounds, I have heard of others older than that (from reliable sources). But I wouldn't ever say all of them will. Best of luck!

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Drafts
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Have you showed him any other game?
He obviously has some tracking ability if he will follow to the tree and hang around the tree some.
How long have you had the dog?
Does he bark in the pen for any reason or bark at anything else period?

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trevor0432
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Had him since he was 9 weeks. He is very mouthy around the house wether it's feed time or not.

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Ron Ashbaugh
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Totally up to you, but here is the deal, you got a minimal amount of time in your life. You can spend it with a dog that makes you excited to go hunting or keep one around that you have to ask people if you should give up on. For me its a no brainer. I can't take a kennel barker let alone a kennel barker that can't tree a coon at 15 months old.

When I start a pup I keep written track of what is actually going on. I usually set a limit for myself....very few dogs make it to the limit because I have had enough before that time comes. I am really not that much into standing around in the dark listening to dogs bark up trees anymore. A dog better make it at least tolerable pretty quick for me to keep buying $40 a bag food and spending $4 gas hauling it around.

My guess is when you find a dog that really does a nice job for you, you will look back on this and wonder why you wasted so much time on this one. Good luck though.

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Drafts
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quote:
Originally posted by trevor0432
Had him since he was 9 weeks. He is very mouthy around the house wether it's feed time or not.


Personally here is what I would do:
If you love the dog and really want to try to make him work, I would show him a caged squirrel, or cat, or something else and just see if that peaks his interest. If he opens on it on the ground pull it up a tree and see if he will tree on it. If he trees on it, praise him for it and you have now taken a step forward.
If he does the same with any other caged game as he does a coon, I would give him to a good home that hog hunts or dog drives for deer or possibly even a bear hunter might would try him. He may be really good at baying game and not a tree bone in his body. That is what you have got to find out first.
Some folks will encourage their pups to bark “up” at their food at a very young age to encourage treeing/speaking for what they want.
You might could try that too, although sounds like you’ve already got him mouthy enough at home.
Just my opinion

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