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T Felderman
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11(c) Handling Dogs

“Judge SHALL give handler permission to handle dog on split tree”. Does this mean judge has to give permission?

You have three dogs in front of you treed 700 yards and another treed 0.60 mile the opposite direction. I’m sorry there is a small handful of people I’d trust to let handle a dog by themselves in a big hunt that far away from the cast. Not to mention, when cast gets split up that far apart only bad things can happen.

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Judge has to grant permission!

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Is that "has to grant permission" before you can or "has to grant permission" can't keep you from doing it?

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As long as the cast has a majority to score a tree and or isn't in the process of scoring a tree a judge has to let a handler go to his dog if the tree is dead.

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As long as the cast has a majority to score a tree and or isn't in the process of sco

Not true. Trees will be scored in order, unless all dogs are treed and then you can score them out of order. And all handlers have to be at the tree to score the tree, unless a non hunting judge is being used.

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Re: As long as the cast has a majority to score a tree and or isn't in the process of sco

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Not true. Trees will be scored in order, unless all dogs are treed and then you can score them out of order. And all handlers have to be at the tree to score the tree, unless a non hunting judge is being used.
Look at the definition of shall, either you are wrong or UKC is using the word shall improperly.

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As long as the cast has a majority to score a tree and or isn't in the process of scoring a tree a judge has to let a handler go to his dog if the tree is dead.

This.

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Can the judge tell the handler he has to come back to score the tree after he ties his dog up?

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"Majority of the cast" in a 4 dog cast is 3 so if there are only 3 handlers to score a tree in a 4 dog cast then they all have to agree on the scoring. The same goes for a 3 dog cast. Rule doesn't say "majority of the cast at the tree". When you go handle your dog by yourself you "have" to return to the cast before they can score their tree. Otherwise if there is a disagreement, the tree can't be scored and must be deleted. Or theoretically you could be scratched for not voting but I have never heard of that happening.

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YOU CANT SCORE OUT OF ORDER UNLESS TIME OUT HAS TO BE CALLED

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