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How do you really know how cold of a nose your dog really has?OK he opens according to track,other dogs don't open on the track but in all honesty how do you really know how cold nosed he is.

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This will be interesting!

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I've tested some of mine with released coons and coons that I've seen crossing. It's even more practical now with these trail cameras that send pictures to your phone. I have experienced with this technique that it doesn't always prove that a dog is not cold nosed but helps some to give a time line on how old of a track they can smell.

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Great question! I do not think one can really know how cold a track really is, but as already stated cameras and actual sight of a coon crossing road etc. can be a good way of knowing how old the track is time wise. I think weather and temperature plays a big part in a dog being able to run a older track. I love hunting a dog that can run and tree tracks that other good dogs can not open on or even tree with that dog with the coon being seen, not just a tree. I have owned very few dogs that could do that on a consistant basis, but I enjoyed the ones that could. Dave

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Years ago I hunted with a walker female called Fannie that could work and tree a bad/cold track but I also saw a time or two when a coon crossed the road and we turned her loose and never got a bark. Go figure???

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How do you really know how cold of a nose your dog really has?OK he opens according to track,other dogs don't open on the track but in all honesty how do you really know how cold nosed he is.

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Not sure there is an easy answer to this question. I just know the few good cold nose dogs I’ve seen will reveal themselves overtime and a number of different nights of hunting them with other dogs for comparison under a variety of conditions.

This probably wasn’t helpful!

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Years ago I hunted with a walker female called Fannie that could work and tree a bad/cold track but I also saw a time or two when a coon crossed the road and we turned her loose and never got a bark. Go figure???

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Some say that they can all smell the same--I disagree with that idea because I have seen way to many times that hounds put down on the same track, which makes EVERYTHING the same, with your good "track" hounds will take it and work it up to a jumped race. Nose is connected to the brain and I have seen my coyote hounds smell the brush that rubbed the coyotes body when deer ran out the scent of their paws. I have seen videos of hounds out west lick the rocks to "taste" the scent of a cat to keep the race going. And it all ties into those GOOD COLD NOSE hounds having the patiences to work a track when the going gets tuff. The "ambush" hounds in todays hunts have turned out to be a little better on having a raccoon in their trees because they will only take a hot track while the hounds a few years ago that had no patiences to work a track would just quit and start treeing. As Dave Dean told me, "breed for the card."

As far as the comments of a hound not being able to take a track that just crossed the road--you have to let them "clear" their nose from being inside a box of bedding, down a dusty road. Doesn't matter if its a raccoon, bear or a coyote. Just go a 100 yards pass it, stay calm while putting their collar on and lead them back to the track and see if you don't have a better result. Nothing more funny to watch then an animal cross in front of a hunter, brake lights come on and hounds hit the front of the box, hunters jumping out and crabbing hounds, putting trackers on (most times forgetting to turn them on) and throwing hounds in the ditch to see them looking back like, "What the heck???"

Experience is still the best teacher a hounds person can ever have.

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Regardless of 'what' a cold nosed dog is or 'why' they are cold nosed, I'm not taking anyone's word on it and have to see it myself. I may not be correct, but there are way too many opinions and ideas on what a good track dog is for me to take someone else's word on it. I have personally seen dogs that were described as a 'cold nosed track dog' that IMHO were 'hot nosed, silent running, ambush' style dogs. And I've seen dogs described as 'cold nosed' that worked every track slow and methodical even when they were red hot tracks off a feeder or in a corn field. A dog can be accurate and still not be a good track dog.

Truly great track dogs have always been rare and its a difficult thing to evaluate.

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How do you really know how cold of a nose your dog really has?OK he opens according to track,other dogs don't open on the track but in all honesty how do you really know how cold nosed he is.

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