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joseph robinson
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topper again

I think he is a Nance bred dog. Right? Is he still around? And where could he be found? What exactly is his pedigree? I assume that he came from Nance's Little Topper? What kind of traits does he have?

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re:topper again

Our pedigrees if we are talking about the same dog show
Nance's Little Topper
Marosok's Little Topper
Marosok's Sandy

Nance's Little Topper
Marosok's Topper Again
Nance White River Babe

Nt Ch Little Topper
Nance's Little Topper
Nance's Sugar Foot

these are all in the fifth, sixth and seventh generations of the dogs we currently have

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Andy Jensen (Owner of Topper Again)

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Nite Ch. Little Topper

I'm looking at the papers now. Does anyone know anything about descendents out of this cross?

****Nite Ch. Little Topper
Nite Ch. Shinkles Rocket
****Briar Ridge Millie

Nite ch little topper came out of Nance's Ring and Nances Sal.
Briar Ridge Millie came out of The Incredible Rock and Ch. Nance's Jane.

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Contact the # I gave you, he has his actual papers and can tell you what every ancestor is in his 7th generation Im sure.

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nance/whitecloud

I have a lil male that is all white cloud and that goes back to a bunch of nance breeding in the fifth sixth and seventh. Hes a good cold nosed dog with grit behind Never slicked treed in his life, and a very patient dog a a cold track

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Could you post some of your dogs pedigree? How old of a dog is it? Used to coonhunt? What sort of traits does he have? Any pictures?

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Here is his pedigree:

-----Nances Little Topper
----Marosoks Little Topper
-----Marosoks Sandy (Nances Little Topper)
---Marosoks Bobby
-----Haywards Bucky (White River King II) (Nances Ring)
----Nances Sally
-----Ormeshers Gypsi (Little Topper)
--Husseys Hunter
-----Gr Nitech Youngs Arkansas Jiggs
----Millers Danny Boy
-----Boles Darby Creek Lady (Daughter, Houses Chief) (Nance)
---Nitech Ellithorps Raven
-----Ch Nitech Arnolds Sport (Son, Finley River Chief)
----Millers Sally
-----NiteCh. Donohues Tug River Queen
-Topper Again
-----Marosoks Bobby
----Marosoks Bobby II
-----Wolf Mountain Peggy (Daughter,Marosoks Bobby)
---Marosoks Little Topper III
-----Marosoks Bobby
----Marosoks Little Queen
-----Marosoks Star (Daughter, Marosoks Little Topper)
--Holtes Tazzie
-----Babcocks Bert (Nances Little Topper)
----Marosoks Sawdust
-----Nances Sally
---Marosoks Little Windy
-----Marosoks Bobby
----Marosoks Sugar
-----Marosoks Sally (Little Topper)

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re"topper again

The Nitrous female is an inbred female from Bach’s WC Blazer and Bach’s WC Molly these were littermates. They were from Lyles Boomer II and our Rage female.

Boomer II ( Wolf mountain Boomer x Marosok’s Sundown Sandy) Wolfmountain Boomer was the son of Marosok’s Bobby x Wolf mountain Peggy Bobby was a direct son of Marosok’s Little Topper and Nance’s Sally. Sundown Sandy was also and granddaughter of Nance’s Sally on the dam side.

Rage was from WC Titus and WC Sheba these were half brother and sister their sire was Hardrock’s WC Sparky. Titus by WC Bear Gal I and Sheba from Nances Hard rock Lil. Sparky was from Hollands King x Hollands Star. Bear Gal I was Holland WC King x WC Little Bit. Hardrock Lil was from Marosok’s Sawdust x Wolf Mountain Jody. The mother of Sawdust was Nance’s Sally. Wolfmountain Jody the daughter of Marosok’s Little Topper who was the son of Nance’s little Topper and Marosok’s Sandy

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re:topper again

we have 5 pups 3 months old they currently traila bear drag about three hubdred yards to the tree and are standing on the timber nly two are opening but I think the others will be along soon they bay at pigs right now along with some four month old have white cloud half Hickory Nut Harry pups we have

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re:topper again

The Nitrous female listed above is the Dam and Claude Vaughn's Cheif is the Sire

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there is a breeding of hussey's hunter out there that has him three times in the same generation. that to me is an indication of what those houndsmen though of him. he also sired nelson's casey,allens belle and holt's F T AJ.

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My male is out of a half brother and half sister cross. Hes all white cloud for the first five generations, then it goes to alot of nance, wolf mountain, causey breeding. I've never coon hunted him hes strictly a bear dog, a small little dog with alot of heart and drive. and real independent. Has a big mouth and takes his time on them old tracks. pulls hair when he can, quick on his feet. Real smart, treed two coon as a pup he got beat and never treed on one again.

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all them white cloud dogs that ttrusic speaks of you'll find in my dogs pedigree. and alot of topper agains you'll find in the sixth and seventh

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breeding

Joe what strain of walkers do you have

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there is a breeding of hussey's hunter out there that has him three times in the same generation. that to me is an indication of what those houndsmen though of him. he also sired nelson's casey,allens belle and holt's F T AJ.
I believe TA,Casey,AllensAnnie andAllensrt rily are littermates. It seemes there is alot of Morosaks Bobby in these lines.

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strain

I have a female that is Finley River and Yadkin River.
I have a pup that is all Finley River.

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strain

where did you get the all finley river dog from, its hard to get the old breeding that strong in it, everything now has so much of the new stuff in it

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finley river

I got the dog out of North Central Missouri. I got him from Robert Starke. He raises them. You can do a search on here and find them.

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Finley River

Starke's Ziggy dog came from Robert Gadow, Brodhead, WI. Bob owned Ziggy's sire, dam, and grandmother. Gadow's # 608-247-2480, Bob may be able to help you out with a Finley River dog.

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topper again

How old is he? Is he still able to produce?
Also what can anyone tell me about Centerfire Sampson? I think he is also a nance bred hound that's related to Topper Again?

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Haywards Bucky was a great bear dog in the state of New Hampshire as the Hussey.s Hunter dog goes he was a bobcat hound that caught alot of cats never hunted with the dog but know the owner an men that hunted with him.i would love to find a heavey nance/marosok pup if anyone has one let me know email me at bearriverwalkers@gmail.com

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nance bred pup

I would also like to have a heavy nance bred pup. I would even consider breeding my female to a stud out of topper or Sampson that is a little closer to Ohio than Utah or Montana.

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Diggerman

Can't you help Mr. Robinson out? How did you Nance dog turnout?

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Yes kenny,both of my Nance dogs are heavy Hussies hunter, my female is out of Topper again, both are line bred Nance, Morosak.I really like Slim( Comeing 3 yr) as a bear dog, Belle(Comeing 2) ,my topper bitch still has to prove herself.

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