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Kler Kry
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 Thyroid Positive Bloodlines

What is the best testing method to assure that a potential stud is not a carrier?

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Genetic testing . Check with EMBARK

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 Which Studs Are Reproducing Thyroid Problems

Females carry defect too.

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Full thyroid panel through vet. Embark is a joke, most of their tests are generic and not breed specific.

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Whether someone can admit it or not, they all have the problem, it didn’t start recently !

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Whether someone can admit it or not, they all have the problem, it didn’t start recently !

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Whether someone can admit it or not, they all have the problem, it didn’t start recently !
Before testing they were considered lazy dogs and eliminate them from the breeding pool. Now we give them pills, they win hunts, and we breed them.

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Yep, you made my point! It’s not new , 10 cent pill twice a day is cheap to have a good dog!

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It’s a genetic fault and is carried from one generation to the next. It can be treated with what was an inexpensive oral medication back in the 1980’s. It was 10 cents a day then.

I had a daughter of Vaughn’s Mack II and a Vaughn blooded female that had this issue. Over the years there were several dogs that I knew from the bloodline locally that had this problem. They didn’t do well in cold weather with this condition and several died in the winter months between the ages of 6 and 8 years old. At the time the guys I knew that owned these dogs had no clue what their dogs died from.

I put the one I had down for other reasons. She was making a decent coon dog but was possessive at the tree with other dogs and was mean. I don’t tolerate that behavior and I personally believe that it too is a genetic fault that gets passed on to progeny.

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 Which Studs Are Reproducing Thyroid Problems

So who has a stud that isnt a carrier?

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Before testing they were considered lazy dogs and eliminate them from the breeding pool. Now we give them pills, they win hunts, and we breed them.






It is irresponsible as a breeder to knowingly breed a dog with hypothyroidism. You should be breeding to improve the breed all around, not just hunting ability but health as well. If you have a dog that has thyroid issues they can absolutely still have a good life & make a great hound for you, but to knowingly include that dog into your breeding program is ridiculous, and should be illegal in my opinion. You are not breeding to improve the breed, and I hope you are at least honest enough to let anyone that buys a pup from you know beforehand. Thyroid dogs should be spay/neuter to insure no chance of being bred. There are serious symptoms that come with hypothyroidism & ensuring proper dosage of T4 replacement drugs such as levothyroxine is critical to avoid serious side effects. You can expect to be going to the vet every 8 weeks or so to have their levels tested. I would definitely not recommend purchasing a pup from any breeder that knowingly breeds a thyroid dogs.

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 Re: Which Studs Are Reproducing Thyroid Problems

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So who has a stud that isnt a carrier?


Good question! If I was someone who was considering raising a litter of Blueticks I’d have them tested for thyroid issues before breeding. That’s no guarantee that there won’t be any issues but at least if it tests positive you know that there is a high probability that some of the offspring will inherit the disease.

I personally would not raise a litter of pups from a thyroid positive hound. Sire or dam.

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