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JoeJones252
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Camerons

I know i have had several post asking about camerons but i have made my mind up to atleast try one for now! was wondering has anyone used these dogs on the east coast? i live on the coast of nc and have had several people tell me i wouldnt like these dogs for this area can anyone help me decide

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They didn't make it in my kennel in mi.

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Im assuming you are using them on bear? Look for someone breeding smaller built Camerons, you don't want the big huge dogs, I got a little pirahna out in my kennel, she is about 35lbs and she should be fun to watch this bear season. Got her on a couple trees last year at 5 months old, made the whole race. Ive had some Camerons and only thing I've found they lack is consistant speed, if you can find a pair that are the total package, backed up with speed, you will have something special in my opinion. It's really just hard to find ones that are consistantly fast like I said. Good luck!

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i think cubby has them or part cm haven talked to him in a bout a yr

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hey jerry. mine were not full cameron. cameron dogs and other blue dogs that i got from out west were bigger dogs. had good noses but were not as fast as some others, maybe due to size or breeding. but joe, if your hunting in eastern nc, speed isnt quite as much a factor as it is in the mountains. good luck with your dogs joe

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I like'em with a squirt of Rambo II

I have one that is pretty much full blooded, not hunted much yet due to his age but I have hunted with very very closely related dogs and they move a track rather fast.

Like any other dog they have there faults. I have a male and a female that you would be proud to have on the end of a leash if interested. Both are 80-85 lbs. Male or Female

The male will tree his own bear now if it is a nice track. I expect him to do very well, loves the rig. both are VERY houndsy, loud and alph's.

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Some camerons may be bigger but what the orignal poster is gonna be looking for is a smaller built cameron. Those big dogs don't get around as well as the smaller ones. There are cameron breeders out there breeding for a smaler built cameron just gotta get out there and look

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There are cameron breeders out there breeding for a smaler built cameron just gotta get out there and look



Didn't relize he was looking for smaller dogs, just cameron bred, but about the smaller Cameron bred dogs I got 3 out of the same litter that range probably the smallest 40 lbs female in Florida, a 45 lb female, and a 55 lb male, the other 2 just came out big, but they got some big in them as well, straight from Del 20 yr ago and that LittleJohns Arkie dog, he was a big'en also in there ped.

The 2 larger ones would be the only ones I would part with, but I am sure they would do just fine on the coast, the big male holds his own up here in the Mts, just looking to move a couple nice young dogs, and wasn't sure if the fella in the original post was casting a line and looking for a bite.


JSAWYER, Tried to p.m ya a couple times but your p.m. box is always full and lost your number somewhere, got rid of a super nice male a few days ago and was tring to see if you were interested. He was priced right. If you read this shoot me a p.m. we will chat a bit. Getting ready to make another cross in a couple days.

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joe any of the cameron hounds ive seen only one had the speed you are looking for. They are not going to run the same as the your walkers, But with that said they are still good hounds just got to match them up. Hounds will give you better performance if you dont push them let them run there natural speed in stead of playing catch up.

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THOSE THAT PLAY CATCH UP USUALLY DO NOT UNTILL THE GAME IS CAUGHT ON THE GROUND OR IN THE TREE.

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Bo wood
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All of my dogs r Cameron x utchman and I have all the speed anyone won't I don't get out ran by anything I have a pup that is a sister to the dogs posted above and she does good

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CameronTrueGrit
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The ONLY THING MY CAMERONS LACK IS SPEED..................

I just purchased a line bred Upson female from Deniis Upson himself, and I am going to cross her with my line bred Cameron Male.

I love my Camerons and wouldnt go to the wood without some in my box.

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JoeJones252
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I would like to thank all you guys for you input I dont know why im so obsessed with speed lol speed only comes in handy during our training season but I treed three times yesterday with 5 dogs and 4 of them are between 4 to 8

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I here them biscuit eatin ray dogs from Michigan catch a lot of game any 1 heard of em

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biscuit eatin ray dog

how are they bred

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Bo Wood has some really nice YOUNG dogs, that are fast and they catch game on the flat ground and makem climb. I have a pup from him that is a super nice looking hound with big mouth and I expect alot out of him. Bo might come off of a young one, but you would probably have to price your best and expect to pay just that.

He has a young female out of my dogs and it is doing very well, it is just over a yr and a littermate to the 85 lb male. 4 of those 5 pups are doing exceptionaly well for there age and I am sure 3 of the 5 will be front runners as they mature. The big male is no longer for sale, I sold another young dog and I plan on keeping him for now. The big female well she has a LOT of pup still in her.

I just bred the mother of these pups again, she is a fire cracker that can flat out fly, the male I bred to is a super nice male, he has not been bear hunted, but I assure you he is for real, and acts much like his sire. I expect to bred every female I own to him at some point. He is out of the best bear dog that I have every owned and he was always somewhere in the top 3 dogs no mater if he was running with Plotts, English, Walkers or crosses of such. What seperated him from the rest like most of these dogs, he had a big nose, exceptional trail dog, and flat out moved a track. Like I mentioned somewehre I have seen many of these dogs running well off the actual track, short cutting the bear. And most of you will think this is total B.S. but I have seen that patucual dog run a bear in snow just by the sight of the track, no way he could have smelt it, and end up jumping it and soon packed to and treed it. He is dead and gone, and greatly missed, died of a twisted gut on my birthday not quite a yr ago at the age of 7 a sad sad day for me.

Now back to the cross I just made the female is about 50lbs, the male is about 55, with a bit more leg under him. Both dogs can move a track with speed to spare, both run with there heads up, drift a track and have great noses. These pups will be out of proven reproducers on both sides. They are not full Camerons, which I have none now, the closest being the pup I got from Bo. I like to think of these dogs I am producing as my own, since I have owned or bred the majority of there ansisters.

This should be one hot hot cross and I am not advertising these pups, but from what I can gather you are as serious about bear hunting as myself and the few other guys that I have mentioned in this post. I would love to see you have one.

Bo Wood if you are reading...well you know I got ya one set back as well buddy, just have to see how many she has. For the most part I will keep the entire litter as I have with most litters that I have produced. I like what I have and like what I am producing be it big or small, guess I have been lucky and plumb ate up with an obbession to have quality hounds.

When you come up to Curtis Walkers in WV let me know, I have a camp close by you can pile up in for as long as you need to, bring your equipment.

William Lamburnt is close by as well and he always has nice young dogs and finished dogs for sell, but they are far from being blue but still great dogs as he breeds his own strain of mixed up English, Trigg and Walkers out of pack leaders.

below is a link to the sire of the litter.

http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...threadid=470047

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Mine either, and I've tried 3

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I HAVE A CAMERON / UCTCHMAN CROSS. SHE IS USED ON COON. I LOVE HER. MORE GRITT AND DESIRE THAN ANY I HAVE HAD. THERE IS NO QUIT IN HER. THERE ARE SEVERAL OF HER LITTERMATES THAT I HAVE HEARD GOOD STORIES ABOUT. IF THEY WERE USED AND HAD TIME PUT IN ON THEM THEY DID GREAT.

HER MOTHER DIED YOUNG SO THIS CROSS CAN NOT BE MADE AGAIN. I WOULD BUY ANOTHER ONE TOMROW WITH NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

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