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Anybody know of a line of leps that produce cold nosed trail dogs? I'm talking take a bobcat track out of the snow from last night and jump it at noon the next day. Tighten down, straddle the track and put their nose in the footprint type of dogs.

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From what i've heard and read from pretty knowledgable fellas, there really is none, except the fluke now and then. Talk to David Pegtahl or read his book i'm sure you probably have, but he talks about it some.
I think most use hounds and then curs more as closers etc..

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Sam dog I got now will cold nose until he gets a line then drifts a piece and checks the cold track. Ajax had a better nose but he wouldn't walk off on a track. He'd check it pick his head up and move a piece and stay on it. Had a dog named Deets from Eugene Walker that had decent nose but he zig zagged on it.

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Registered: Mar 2006
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I had dog out of Laker's stuff that would jump nearly any cat in any do-able conditions. Rachel would jump and tree 2 day old tracks if it hadn't snowed more than a dusting over them but she would trail by sight when she could and she could tell the difference between a cat track and most other animals without sticking her nose in it. I put hundreds of hours more of time into her than most dogs I've had. A dog I had out of Jughead and Annie (Jughead x Chyna) had a very cold nose but didn't stand around much, he could really move a bad one. There are some in every litter here but they also need a few seasons to develop it. I put a Jughead x Rachel pup with a guy in UT. that ran old tracks on dry ground but he wasn't very fast. Jed Prendergast has a Jug x Carr's Blue Carrie female that can jump most tracks and does a very good job on melting hillsides in the Rockys and that is not easy at all.

There are a bunch out there out of most lines but it takes a couple of seasons for them to develop a nose like that.

I have Sport's littermate brother here. He got a pretty good nose and he's using it better and better every year. He just did a fantastic job last Sat. and took a 12+ hour old coon track out of a big cedar swamp and bayed up under a silo about a mile and a half away form where he first struck.

I know of quite a few more that I've seen first hand. The level of reliability you sound like your looking for takes some serious gas money and boot leather to realize. They're out there though. When they want to give up on a track you just have to already be there and work them through it. Cut the corners and jog, don't walk to keep up. After a while a few won't need help any more.

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I wanted to add, training cat dogs is much more work than training coon dogs. At least that is true in the North, I've never trained in the South. I have to get out and do almost as much as the dogs when training for cats but you get to see a lot more of the woods and it will keep the fat off, that's for sure. I've spent more nights than I can count laying on a heating pad or soaking in a hot tub while trying to get the knots out of my legs and back and I haven't ever been over weight to begin with. Walking bent over for hours in the swamps will dang near cripple you if you don't eat right. When I finally got my diet straightened out, it got a lot easier. When I started carrying a water pack with me it got easier yet. I started reading up on what ultra marathoners would do to make those long races go smoother for their bodies and that helped quite a bit. The odd thing that I found a lot of them would do for the last 15 miles of a 100 mile race was a shock and a pleasant surprise at the same time (for me). They down a bottle of Mtn. Dew! Well, now that's more my style. HA! The cool thing about busting woods for a long time is that after you shake the cobwebs out and start to get your endurance up, you get a runners high just like running long distance. That's my kind of high. I'm not there right now because I have a two year old with me most days but in a couple of years I will be back at it.

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