Oak Ridge
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quote: Originally posted by M Taylor 56
Joe you had a majority of folks on FaceBook give you suggestions that were pretty much in agreement with the same thing yet you didn't seem to think there was much chance of that going over.
With two "new" registries having as much participation as they do wouldn't you think that if a registry was looking for things that would increase participation they would at least listen to folks that were suggesting ideas that were being implemented in these registries that were drawing the larger numbers?
Quite simply put, if you look at the "mission" of each of those organizations, and overlay it over the UKC, they just simply are not the same.
UKC has one of the longest standing coon hound world hunts, that is one of, if not THE largest, when you factor in all of the qualifying events. There are no less than two other "newer" organizations that also have a good following in PKC and CHKC. Both of those organizations allow dogs to advance on circle points, while UKC does not. Having game in the tree has worked for UKC for a lot of years, and while I promised to advocate for the hunter, which is what I will do....I can't promise that UKC will change years of successful experience because a few (and in reality it is a very few) folks would like to see it changed.
Here is the other factor that nobody has taken into consideration. Most of the folks that are vocal about advancing on circle points, and allowing hounds to compete in cur/fiest events have not attended a UKC event in years, and if they have attended it has only been that one hunt per year, the World Hunt. There is much more to the program than just one hunt a year....the goal here is to shore up, and eventually rebuild the clubs, and the local club hunts, to build a state/regional championship structure....you know, to build a program. Unlike the other "new" organizations, they hunt for cash prizes, UKC is an organization that is structured around titles.
If you allow dogs to "win" on circle points, then how do you hold the value in the titles? I have to think beyond the world hunt....to the local level.
I'm still working on the presentation to UKC to differentiate between "full elimination" vs. "title" hunts. What I do know is that rule changes in UKC can and have changed the way that dogs are bred, and can and have changed the type of dogs that win...... I think we need to be careful with what we wish for..... If you really want circle tree dogs to advance, what happens when you get to the finals and it's simply "he who makes the most trees wins".....???
Look, I've been at this for about a week or so, Rome was not built in a day...and while I want to be an agent for change, and for growth....appealing to the loudest voices in the room is not always the best choice. Sure, I posted a question on facebook, and had a few people who loudly voiced their opinion.....but I had several people approach me personally that voiced opposing positions.....so there are some difficult decisions that need to be made, some compromises, and some "line in the sand" type decisions.
Abe Lincoln said it best, "You can please some of the people some of the time"....
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