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Splitting up the Feist's and the Cur's this year! 2 world champion's a Feist and a Cur!!! In Corbin, KY March 10 & 11.

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What a joke! If you can't run with the big dogs, stay home. To me this is another step backwards for the feist. Feist hunters have been breeding to compete with the big dogs for years so hunting where there split up would be admitting that they can't.

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What a joke! If you can't run with the big dogs, stay home. To me this is another step backwards for the feist. Feist hunters have been breeding to compete with the big dogs for years so hunting where there split up would be admitting that they can't.

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I think there will be more participation in the feist hunt, but to the detriment of the breed if it continues to be split. Feists are in the handicap zone anyway due to leg length and size compared to big curs or hounds. I love seeing a feist win against all comers in spite of.

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Originally posted by Bigpoppy
What a joke! If you can't run with the big dogs, stay home. To me this is another step backwards for the feist. Feist hunters have been breeding to compete with the big dogs for years so hunting where there split up would be admitting that they can't.

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If you were to hunt them both 30 days in a row, through all weather, which one would prevail? I mean taking them where squirrels live, and cutting them loose. Not turning them out 1/4 mile from the woods in a pasture field. This is a question I have not tested, but have seen them turned loose together a few times.

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Really?

I honestly believe it to be very similar to the "Bird Dogs" and "Rabbit Dogs" events that UKC hosts...

Let's look at the beagles....Yes, they all hunt rabbits, but there are different "divisions" of field trials to satisfy for different "styles" of dogs. Small Pack, Large Pack, Brace, and Hunting Beagles.

Each of these different "divisions" have events, with rules that cater to different "styles" of dogs that accomplish the same thing...they run rabbits....

If one was to think about it critically, the curs typically operate (by operate I mean they hunt with a different style) differently from the Fiest. That does not make one breed "superior" to the other, just differently. And taking two different "styles" and lumping them together because they accomplish the same goal does not make them the same type of dog even if they are after the same game.

I truly don't think for one minute that it is a sign of inferiority or weakness that the types of dogs are split up....there are other registries that split the draw by weight, and I don't see any huge uproar there..... For the most part the feist guys were not participating anyway....

I get it, change is hard for all of us.... but if UKC wants to take interest in the cur/feist program and make changes to it in the hope that it will grow, and bring folks to the events that may not have ever dreamed of going to a UKC hunt, why would anyone have issues with that.....

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If UKC was worried about getting more dogs entered in there hunts and that's why they are doing this, one would think that they would let other dogs come and compete as long as they are ukc registered. God forbid they let anything compete that looks too houndy. Anyone that feels that they have a dog that can compete at a high enough level to win a world hunt should not be scared to turn loose with a dog that's a bit bigger. Me myself would not be nearly excited about having the world champion feist or the world champion cur. To me the all together world champion would mean much more. I personally have hunted high end squirrel dogs from 20 lbs to 80 lbs and would never want separated by weight no matter which one I was hunting. My opinions are just that and sometimes harsh but weight classes in squirrel hunts are for cry babies.

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If UKC was worried about getting more dogs entered in there hunts and that's why they are doing this, one would think that they would let other dogs come and compete as long as they are ukc registered. God forbid they let anything compete that looks too houndy. Anyone that feels that they have a dog that can compete at a high enough level to win a world hunt should not be scared to turn loose with a dog that's a bit bigger. Me myself would not be nearly excited about having the world champion feist or the world champion cur. To me the all together world champion would mean much more. I personally have hunted high end squirrel dogs from 20 lbs to 80 lbs and would never want separated by weight no matter which one I was hunting. My opinions are just that and sometimes harsh but weight classes in squirrel hunts are for cry babies.

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If UKC was worried about getting more dogs entered in there hunts and that's why they are doing this, one would think that they would let other dogs come and compete as long as they are ukc registered. God forbid they let anything compete that looks too houndy. Anyone that feels that they have a dog that can compete at a high enough level to win a world hunt should not be scared to turn loose with a dog that's a bit bigger. Me myself would not be nearly excited about having the world champion feist or the world champion cur. To me the all together world champion would mean much more. I personally have hunted high end squirrel dogs from 20 lbs to 80 lbs and would never want separated by weight no matter which one I was hunting. My opinions are just that and sometimes harsh but weight classes in squirrel hunts are for cry babies.

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If you were to hunt them both 30 days in a row, through all weather, which one would prevail? I mean taking them where squirrels live, and cutting them loose. Not turning them out 1/4 mile from the woods in a pasture field. This is a question I have not tested, but have seen them turned loose together a few times.

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On another front, I know guys that have curs that are super coon dogs, and some say, better than a hound or hounds, but that doesn't mean they are running to enter them in all the coon hunts or world hunt with hounds! Hunt what you like to hunt, feed what you want to feed, etc....if you want to hunt your feist with curs or curs with hounds, go for it, I'm sure there are registries out there that will allow you to feel like you "beat them all", no matter what kind of dog you hunt. I just think there will way more interest for the feist guys to bring their feist to a hunt and hunt against other feist's! Same as the curs hunting with curs and hounds hunting against hounds....

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Dbender , not at all. Was a serious question. I read the original post, its something I have always wondered. Sorry didn't mean to get off subject.

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It's really funny seeing the ones who are really whining and crying on here about quote "others" who are supposedly whining and being cry babies. Lol
And when a Feist gets the title of World Champion they'll be whining and crying even louder about folks who are "supposedly" whining and crying!

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It's really funny seeing the ones who are really whining and crying on here about quote "others" who are supposedly whining and being cry babies. Lol
And when a Feist gets the title of World Champion they'll be whining and crying even louder about folks who are "supposedly" whining and crying!

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It's really funny seeing the ones who are really whining and crying on here about quote "others" who are supposedly whining and being cry babies. Lol
And when a Feist gets the title of World Champion they'll be whining and crying even louder about folks who are "supposedly" whining and crying!

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Thanks for proving my point!

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How about folks quit whining and crying about a "true" world champion and how about folks quit whining and crying about "dogs that can and can't compete" as a matter a fact, how about folks just quit whining and crying PERIOD! Enjoy yourself! Enjoy your dog whatever breed! Enjoy your hunt which ever you choose to hunt! Just everybody quit whining and crying and oh yeah, may the best Feist win the UKC World Title! #nowhiningallowed

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said the man with the little prick eared dog that has been dreaming for the day to come to hold the world title that was won against other little prick eared dogs to have a chance , it was time to split them everyone deserves a chance at the world title the way i see it ..

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give everybody a cookie and a pat on the back and call it a good time! MERICA!

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Who will be deciding which is which?

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said the man with the little prick eared dog that has been dreaming for the day to come to hold the world title that was won against other little prick eared dogs to have a chance , it was time to split them everyone deserves a chance at the world title the way i see it ..

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Well you can't hunt a fuzzy one so what does that leave you?

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Well you can't hunt a fuzzy one so what does that leave you?

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Well you can't hunt a fuzzy one so what does that leave you?

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