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honalieh
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Simple Facts.

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Is it "wishful thinking"? It looks like curves are flattening.


Here, and across the world (probably especially China), the numbers are very probably vastly understated.

At last update I checked, we have almost as many cases as the next 4 highest countries (Spain, Italy, France, Germany). We may surpass them combined in another day. We have 30.5% of the World total.

It's the active cases that matter (again, reporting is questionable). The plateau (flattening of the curve) comes when our resolved cases (death or recoveries) equals or exceeds new cases (that's the point at which our active cases can begin to drop). It looks like Spain, Italy, France, and Germany are at or nearing a plateau. Our active cases are still on the upswing. At last check, we have 38.7% of worldwide active cases (that's pretty significant for a country with a little over 4% of the world population).

And, reaching a plateau on a bell-shaped curve is not an end-point (it's a middle point). We haven't reached that yet. And, the ride back down is just as bad as the ride up.

Back to normal is not happening anytime soon. There will be a new normal. My wife is already bugging me to hook up the tiller to the tractor. Planning a big garden and possibly a small cornfield. Let's see how that works out. Plans are a lot easier than work.

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Richard Lambert
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Oh my goodness, more CNN numbers, if you want to compare our total numbers to Europe's numbers then you have to compare total cases and deaths per million population. The population of the US is as big as all of Europe combined. Number of daily new deaths and number of daily new cases is dropping already. We are on our way out of this.
The sky is not falling. Listen to the experts. Head of CDC said yesterday that we had peaked and crisis was over and we are on our way out of this so some states could start going back to work in a couple of weeks.

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Lol

USA numbers 'look' worse because Hospitals are getting Govt $$$ for every Covid 19 patient treated,more if put on ventilator.

So now when anyone shows up with breathing problems{asthma,copd,bronchitis,pneumonia,chest cold,flu,even cracked rib} they are put in Covid 19 possible list and treated as such!!

Just has a friend with ostioperosis fell & cracked a rib.Went hospital to get it checked out.Not 1st time.
Since he had hard time breathing they wrote down Covid 19 possible.

Hospitals are laying staff off because nobody is suddenly sick from anything else!! MOST are labled Covid 19 to get GOVT $$$$

Search " hospitals laying off" see what you find...........

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Re: Re: Re: Be careful

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A co-worker. He was sick. Stayed home for 2 weeks.

This is in Fairmont, WV.



DID HIS DOCTOR TELL HIM TO STAY HOME , WHY WOULD HE NOT WANT TO STAY HOME IF HE WAS SICK

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benderb4
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come on guys. don't know about rest of you but updates are on my home news feed page
NY has more total reported cases then anywhere in the entire world
I copied these at 10:15 4/14/20

United States 587,752
Fatal cases 23,765
4 % rate

New York 195,459
Fatal cases 10,107
5.1 % rate

Spain 172,655
Fatal cases 18,150
9.2% rate

Italy 159,628
Fatal cases 20,515
12.8% rate

Global 1,930,780
fatal cases 120,863
rate 6.2 %


In the beginning Rates of China and WHO where reporting rates at 2%.. but we all now know they were both lying to the world.
Flu rates run one tenth of one percent or about 1 -2 in 1000. this corona is more contagious and deadlier.
Look at New York 5 %.
To put that in perspective. If there were 20 of you in a room that get it . One of you are going to die.
With the flu 1000 of you in the same room and got sick 1-2 would die .

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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Oh my goodness, more CNN numbers, if you want to compare our total numbers to Europe's numbers then you have to compare total cases and deaths per million population. The population of the US is as big as all of Europe combined. Number of daily new deaths and number of daily new cases is dropping already. We are on our way out of this.
The sky is not falling. Listen to the experts. Head of CDC said yesterday that we had peaked and crisis was over and we are on our way out of this so some states could start going back to work in a couple of weeks.



I don't believe CDC . I been watching daily numbers . They update at noon everyday. Day before yesterday.. there were 27,632 new cases in US
yesterday there were 29,344 new cases .
remember these new cases have other people they possibly were near in the last few days that will now be reported in the next few weeks .
If EVERYONE would have taken this more seriously . These MORONS that went to beaches, Corona Parties, can't miss birthday parties, Etc., ignored social distance guidelines and handwashing. WE WOULD BE COMING OUT OF THIS!!
They are the ones prolonging this by dismissing it as nothing worse then the Flu for the rest of us that are trying to stop the spread.

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Oh my goodness, countries in Europe are starting to relax restrictions. How far behind will we be?

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JMO

Hospitals are way over inflating USA numbers.

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Re: JMO

quote:
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Hospitals are way over inflating USA numbers.


Yes I believe this is a "Money Grab" Scheme by the hospital Administrators. NOT the Medical staffs. I have the upmost respect for them. I believe the numbers are getting inflated by the business departments of the hospitals.

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Re: JMO

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Hospitals are way over inflating USA numbers.



HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS ?






















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Re: Re: JMO

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HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS ?

Friends sister works at a Hospital 30 yrs.Never laid off til now....Suddenly no work.Everything classified Covid with ANY breathing problem....All other dept in hospital are dead.Even in the 'hot spot' cities.

Google hospitals laying off.






















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quote:
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Wishful thinking but not a chance in he//.


Oh my goodness, I just saw where Oklahoma doesn't even have a statewide stay at home order. I also saw on the TV that Trump said that some States could start opening up before May 1st. Is that "wishful thinking"?

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Oklahoma needs the casinos back open so folks have somewhere to spend their stimulus checks lol.


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Re: JMO

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Hospitals are way over inflating USA numbers.


Oh my goodness, New York added more than 3,000 deaths to their Covid 19 total yesterday. They said that their death was "probably" due to complications of Covid19.

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The more I read about this virus, the more it seems like it's "probably" the biggest hoax in the history of America.

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quote:
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The more I read about this virus, the more it seems like it's "probably" the biggest hoax in the history of America.


Still hasn't killed as many people in USA as the Flu does EVERY year.Suddenly everybody has stopped dying from the flu,copd,lung cancer,etc....?

ANY breathing issue is now classified China Virus to get Govt $$$
Hope they investigate ALL HOSPITAL abuse to get $$$ after this bs is over.

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quote:
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The more I read about this virus, the more it seems like it's "probably" the biggest hoax in the history of America.


NO ITS REAL, GET IT AND YOU'LL KNOW IT

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NO ITS REAL, GET IT AND YOU'LL KNOW IT


Yep it's real and should be avoided, my friend, one county over lost his dad and uncle within one week from it

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27,000 dead in 30 days is a heck of a flu

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quote:
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27,000 dead in 30 days is a heck of a flu


Still not to Flu yearly numbers! 29,000-59,000 a year and no shut downs ,no panic buying/hording....NOTHING

https://www.health.com/condition/co...-flu-every-year

Very long way to go to the scare/panic numbers of 250k-1mil. deaths they were preaching 45 days ago.Supposed to be 10's of 1,000's dying last week and this week in USA.

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Still not to Flu yearly numbers! 29,000-59,000 a year and no shut downs ,no panic buying/hording....NOTHING

https://www.health.com/condition/co...-flu-every-year

Very long way to go to the scare/panic numbers of 250k-1mil. deaths they were preaching 45 days ago.Supposed to be 10's of 1,000's dying last week and this week in USA.



I think I'll still try not to get it

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True, it's a real disease. But it's being used. Nobody dies from anything but coronavirus anymore.

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True, it's a real disease. But it's being used. Nobody dies from anything but coronavirus anymore.
We just had a 28 yo man and his 8 yo son drown in the local river. Father finally recovered after a week. Still trying to find his son's body.

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True, it's a real disease. But it's being used. Nobody dies from anything but coronavirus anymore.
We just had a 28 yo man and his 8 yo son drown in the local river. Father finally recovered after a week. Still trying to find his son's body.

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Virus

Breaking news has linked the Covid19 virus to a lab in Wuhan a lab testing corona virus in bats, a worker from the lab spread the disease to the population in Wuhan, the World Heath Org. has helped China cover up this info and blame the food market for the outbreak. US officials knew about this lab running these tests on bats long before the outbreak and the lack of security surrounding the lab in Wuhan. Experiments like this should be banned worldwide. Testing viruses should only be done in a highly controlled and secure lab, the World CANNOT stand these kinds of mistakes. Dave

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