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Guinea pig? "Sucked in" huh. Yeah, myself and 230 million other Americans. I am proud to be a guinea pig in order to save America. My medical doctor advised me to be a guinea pig. It is a shame that you have been "sucked in" by the anti vaxers despite the preponderance of evidence to the contrary. Even the anti vaxers can't argue against the vaccine now. All they can protest against is the government mandates and control.
You are behind the times. You need to get off the anti vax bandwagon and get on the anti government train. The anti government train can be argued but the wheels have fallen off the anti vax wagon. I realize that it is hard for old men to keep up with the times.

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One of us is confused. Looks like the government is the one pushing the vaccine.

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Guinea pig? "Sucked in" huh. Yeah, myself and 230 million other Americans. I am proud to be a guinea pig in order to save America. My medical doctor advised me to be a guinea pig. It is a shame that you have been "sucked in" by the anti vaxers despite the preponderance of evidence to the contrary. Even the anti vaxers can't argue against the vaccine now. All they can protest against is the government mandates and control.
You are behind the times. You need to get off the anti vax bandwagon and get on the anti government train. The anti government train can be argued but the wheels have fallen off the anti vax wagon. I realize that it is hard for old men to keep up with the times.



I had asked you once, what else have you done besides relying on a jab to save your life? Doctors tell you to exercise, cut out fried foods, sugar, red meat. Which also means pop, certain breakfast cereals, eggs with yolks, fatty meat... do you do any of this? Or just want to stir the pot?

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My Dr said that I was his best patient and besides my low thyroid, in perfect health for my age. At my last checkup, he said to keep doing whatever I am doing.

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"Vaccine passports" that exempt vaccinated people from regular COVID-19 testing would allow many infections to be missed, Israeli data suggest. Researchers analyzed infection rates in citizens returning to Israel through Ben-Gurion airport, for whom PCR tests upon arrival are required regardless of vaccination status. "Surprisingly," in August 2021, the rate of positive tests among vaccinated travelers was more than double the rate among the unvaccinated,

compared to people who never had COVID-19, those who had breakthrough infections had a 53% higher risk of death and a 59% higher risk of having at least one new medical condition, particularly problems affecting the lungs and other organs. Even when breakthrough infections did not require hospitalization, the increased risks of death and lasting effects were "not trivial," the research team reported


Success? This is how the vaccinated spread this crap around the world. That's a hell of a success story. But, how can vaccinated person stop getting jab?

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Facts

SLEEPY.
good to see some people look for the facts and whats really happening in the world other than believing cnn and nbc.
Alot of people believe everything they hear from the leftist news channels..if they were wilds animals theyd run the same trail every day and be be a gonner the 1st day of sezn.....
Cant believe the people that think Fauci is trying to help....
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/global...-us-canada/amp/ I also just heard on the news a lot of Oklahoma deer are also testing positive.
Like I said here a long time ago it's zoonotic and it's impossible to eliminate/eradicate zoonotic diseases. Any of you that have been under the false assumption that we could vax or social distance our way out of this are about to find out how wrong you are.
Population control and control of the populace are the end goal, they know eradicating it will never happen.

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Oh my goodness, I read that article. It is so full of "suggests that", " may be possible", might be". Nowhere does it come to the conclusion that deer actually get Covid-19 or give it to humans. The conclusion is that "it might be possible" and "if it was". Also right off the bat, they quote a Canadian scientist about a study supposedly done on deer in America. What is up with that? I wonder why they didn't talk to the scientists that actually did the study?

I wonder just where we would be without the vaccine? I guess that instead of vaxing our way out of the panicdemic, we should have " died" our way out of it. What do y'all actually think would have happened Worldwide if a vaccination had not been developed? Do y'all have a study to quote on that?

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Oh my goodness, I read that article. It is so full of "suggests that", " may be possible", might be". Nowhere does it come to the conclusion that deer actually get Covid-19 or give it to humans. The conclusion is that "it might be possible" and "if it was". Also right off the bat, they quote a Canadian scientist about a study supposedly done on deer in America. What is up with that? I wonder why they didn't talk to the scientists that actually did the study?

I wonder just where we would be without the vaccine? I guess that instead of vaxing our way out of the panicdemic, we should have " died" our way out of it. What do y'all actually think would have happened Worldwide if a vaccination had not been developed? Do y'all have a study to quote on that?



Your 'Man' Fauci admitted Israel is wayyy ahead of USA in Covid. But yet he or nor you don't want to admit to Israel's study showed that natural immunity is stronger and LASTS LONGER than any vaccine/jabs.
70% in local hospitals are vaccinated people.
I have a friend on vent. now....fully vaccinated

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Oh my goodness, there you go again, more disinformation. Can you not post anything truthfully? It has gotten to where we can't believe anything you post or any of the "studies" that you post. How did Fauci become "my man"? I haven't ever posted anything good about him. Then you post that I don't want to admit that Israel's study shows that natural immunity is stronger and lasts longer than getting fully vaccinated. You are like the shepard boy that cried wolf. If you ever do post something that is true, we won't be able to believe you. Instead of reading all of the so called studies you quote to only find out how bogus they are, I don't even read them anymore. I just assume that they are bogus.

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Oh my goodness, I read that article. It is so full of "suggests that", " may be possible", might be". Nowhere does it come to the conclusion that deer actually get Covid-19 or give it to humans. The conclusion is that "it might be possible" and "if it was". Also right off the bat, they quote a Canadian scientist about a study supposedly done on deer in America. What is up with that? I wonder why they didn't talk to the scientists that actually did the study?

I wonder just where we would be without the vaccine? I guess that instead of vaxing our way out of the panicdemic, we should have " died" our way out of it. What do y'all actually think would have happened Worldwide if a vaccination had not been developed? Do y'all have a study to quote on that?


USDA is going to be releasing a report today. Is that a better source for you. It is VERY WIDESPREAD in deer they've tested. My point is covid19 is zoonotic and therefore impossible to eradicate. Disease like smallpox is not.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...1652133%3famp=1

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Actually, the study says that they "have been exposed to Covid 19". It doesn't say anything about them catching it or spreading it. It even says that "humans have nothing to worry about".

Oh wait, the headline said, "Whitetail deer are catching Covid". The reporter who had nothing to do with the story added that part. Maybe you didn't read past the headline.

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Actually, the study says that they "have been exposed to Covid 19". It doesn't say anything about them catching it or spreading it. It even says that "humans have nothing to worry about".

Oh wait, the headline said, "Whitetail deer are catching Covid". The reporter who had nothing to do with the story added that part. Maybe you didn't read past the headline.


The deer that have antibodies have had Covid.
Zoonotic diseases cannot be eradicated!
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Meanwhile, a separate recent study of white-tailed deer in Iowa found that up to 80 percent of those sampled had been infected with the coronavirus. The study, conducted by veterinary microbiologists for Penn State University, said the animals probably contracted the virus from humans before spreading it to one another.


"It was effectively showing up in all parts of the state," Suresh Kuchipudi, who led the study with Vivek Kapur, told The New York Times in early November. "We were dumbfounded."

While these studies found antibodies in deer, the USDA had already announced in August that the Ohio State University College of Veterinary Medicine found white-tailed deer in Ohio that had tested positive for the virus. The USDA claimed these were the first deer confirmed with the SARS-CoV-2 virus worldwide.

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How can some of the simplest things be so hard for some to comprehend? I get the impression that unless they hear some talking head on CNN or whatever bias/State MSM that they comatose themselves while watching, it must be a conspiracy.

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How can some of the simplest things be so hard for some to comprehend? I get the impression that unless they hear some talking head on CNN or whatever bias/State MSM that they comatose themselves while watching, it must be a conspiracy.


How true.....

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Before a desease can be "zoonotic" it has to be shown that it can be transferred from animals to humans and vice versa. This study makes no such claims. Maybe deer have had Covid for years and no one has ever tested them for it. The study only says that the deer tested positive for antibodies, not for actually having Covid. The study surmised that the deer must have been exposed to Covid at some point. Now that is what the study said. You can make up your own conspiracy theories or conclusions as to what it might say or what it "might" show from there. I like to stick to the actual facts myself.

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Before a desease can be "zoonotic" it has to be shown that it can be transferred from animals to humans and vice versa. This study makes no such claims. Maybe deer have had Covid for years and no one has ever tested them for it. The study only says that the deer tested positive for antibodies, not for actually having Covid. The study surmised that the deer must have been exposed to Covid at some point. Now that is what the study said. You can make up your own conspiracy theories or conclusions as to what it might say or what it "might" show from there. I like to stick to the actual facts myself.

Mink, dogs, cats and many zoo animals and others already have.

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So you are saying that Covid 19 came from bats or the wet market in Wuhan?

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I've posted links to this report 4 times on a YouTube channel and it gets removed in 30 seconds.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/eur...out-2021-11-19/

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My daughter {who is a doctor} and won't take the jab{s] just told me her Mom has Covid ......after her work forced vaccine on workers.

Also got random nose bleeds after 2nd jab.
Still caught Covid,still got sick and fever.
Will not take Boosters now after nose bleed side effect and still getting Covid

58 yr old friend of mine {fully vaccinated} still in Hospital on Ventilator.

Local hospitals claim 70% in hospital with covid/fauci flu are fully vaccinated

I'll still pass on the jab{s}

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Now you"re really gonna worry Richard. He'll start arguing again!

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Now you"re really gonna worry Richard. He'll start arguing again!


I wonder if he got the antibodies test to see if he is still immune or is afraid to in Case we are right?

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I doubt if Anderson Cooper has told his followers about antibody tests

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Why hasn't Biden mandated that food stamp recipients, unemployment check recipients and other welfare recipients show proof of vaccination before they get their checks? Why has Biden only mandated that working adults get vaccinated? Does he not care if people on welfare get Covid and die?

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harleydan1956
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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Why hasn't Biden mandated that food stamp recipients, unemployment check recipients and other welfare recipients show proof of vaccination before they get their checks? Why has Biden only mandated that working adults get vaccinated? Does he not care if people on welfare get Covid and die?


Maybe with a 99.7% survival rate, it wouldn't save us enough in taxes to worry about

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