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A little perspective, is the glass half full or half empty?

Population of the USA.... 331,500,000

Number who have probably had Covid...7,949,000

Number who haven't had Covid...323,000,000

Number who have probably died from Covid...219,000

Number who haven't died from Covid...330,780,000

I wonder why CNN doesn't tell us daily that 330,780,000 people haven't died from Covid? Or why Biden didn't say that President Trump has saved 330,780,000 from dying?

Fear mongering CNN tells us that daily cases and deaths are at record levels in 10 states. But they don't tell us that those 10 states were near the bottom in daily deaths and cases before. The daily death rate in Wisconsin went from 15 up to 20. I wonder why CNN slants their reporting to try to scare and panic the American people?

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Or to put it another way...

.07% of our population has died from Covid
99.93% have not died

2.4% probably have contracted Covid

Should we ruin the lives of 97.6% of our population so that 2.4% won't get Covid?

Now consider that no matter what we do probably 1% are going to catch it anyway. What would you do? A true leader looks at the overall picture and makes the tough decisions. A weak leader hides in his basement.

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Same old song n dance with you, you keep regurgitating the same thing about something YOU SAID WAS OVER BACK ON 5/13! Is it over or not? Go ahead change the topic it's your standard response you haven't posted anything current in 4 years OFF TOPIC OFF TOPIC OFF TOPIC.........

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That 2.4% includes the people who didn't even have symptoms.

Mr Cotton, do you think the we should all panic and run and hide in our basements? I don't. I don't think that a less than 1% chance of catching a bad case of Covid is a reason to panic, but that is just me I guess. President Trump pulled out all of the stops, spent trillions of dollars, invoked the war powers act to produce ventilators, field hospitals, PPE. He reduced regulations, contracted with private companies and spent millions more to develop meds to treat the 1-2% that did get a serious case of Covid. He fast tracked development of the vaccine.
But he didn't panic and neither should we. Covid is bad, but not as bad as some would lead us to believe. The courageous American people will defeat it just like we have everything else by fighting and going on with our lives, not by hiding in our basements. A disease that only effects less than 1% of our population isn't a reason to panic.

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MADISON, Wis. (WBAY) - Wisconsin reported 18 new COVID-19 deaths Saturday and more than 2,700 new positive cases of the coronavirus.

The 18 new deaths reported Saturday bring the statewide total to 1,458. That’s 1% of cases.

New deaths were reported in Marathon (3), La Crosse (2), Rock (2), Brown (1), Calumet (1), Kewaunee (1), Marquette (1), Milwaukee (1), Oneida (1), Outagamie (1), Portage (1), Sauk (1), Waupaca (1) and Winnebago (1) counties.

Wisconsin added 2,742 new confirmed cases of the virus for a cumulative total of 147,560.

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People can debate back and forth forever. People believe the way they believe and there is not much going to change their minds. The bottom line is Barack Obama single handed ruined the democrat party in a short 8 years. He took the country on a ride further than it wanted to go. Forcing certain perverted social issues and policies on people that 80% of the country was against and using the federal government to force states to go by these new policies or "we will cut federal funding off". simply force feeding his agenda by using the taxpayers dollars to bully them into what they were against. Perfect example of big government. Obama was suppose to be the savior and ended up being worse than politics as usual. I know people that were die hard democrats after 8 years of him swear they will never vote democrat again. People can whine all they want but he tore the democrat party down and that is all there is to it. Republicans vote democrats in and democrats vote republicans in. Blue collar, common sense democrats is what put Trump in office and they will put him in again, period.

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Rahman Emmanuel said it best. "Never waste a crisis"! We all see what he meant by that now.

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MADISON, Wis. (WBAY) - Wisconsin reported 18 new COVID-19 deaths Saturday and more than 2,700 new positive cases of the coronavirus.

The 18 new deaths reported Saturday bring the statewide total to 1,458. That’s 1% of cases.

New deaths were reported in Marathon (3), La Crosse (2), Rock (2), Brown (1), Calumet (1), Kewaunee (1), Marquette (1), Milwaukee (1), Oneida (1), Outagamie (1), Portage (1), Sauk (1), Waupaca (1) and Winnebago (1) counties.

Wisconsin added 2,742 new confirmed cases of the virus for a cumulative total of 147,560.

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Perspective.... .025% of the population of Wisconsin has probably died from Covid. 99.975% of the people in Wisconsin have not died from Covid. Why do you insist on only posting the worst numbers? How many people in Wisconsin died yesterday from Covid?
Why do y'all find my optimism "obnoxious"? Is it wrong to be an optimist and look for the good in everything? Why does that annoy some on here so much? I am only posting true facts and figures.

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Perspective, on 5/13/2020 you proclaimed the pandemic was over, you thought you cut a fat hog it was not and is not over, no miracle cure before the election as predicted, instead of you being straight forward and saying I was wrong.....you keep spinning your same ole line, you have no credibility none I told you there was a price to pay for insisting you were right when you knew better I would never trust a word that came out of your mouth a person that can't admit he or she was wrong in my book ain't much of a person, the glass half full or half empty is only true if your not lying about it......

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Oh my goodness, the pandemic is over. The sky didn't fall and everyone didn't die. No one ran out of toilet paper and had to use leaves. Everyone is going back to work, even New York state. I wonder just how long the government will stretch out the "National Emergency Declaration" so that they will have all of their war powers?

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Oh my goodness, once again y'all just don't understand sarcasm. I looked back and all I have done is post about the true numbers and facts as reported by the CDC. (Except for the bits of sarcasm and my feeble attempts at humor)
The numbers have gone up and down. The curves went up, flattened, came down, went back up, started back down and cases are on the rise while deaths are flat right now. We had it under control at one time but then numbers started back up. I posted the numbers when they were down and when they were up unlike some who only want to talk about the numbers when they are up. I refuse to apologize for being an optimist and trying to find a silver lining in any cloud. I am sorry that bothers you so much but I am not going to change to please you. I am not afraid of the Covid virus and refuse to hide from it. If I get it, I get it. I will fight it just as President Trump and a couple million others have done.

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Here you go....
I was wrong. I looked up the definition of "pandemic". It seems that any large number of cases of an infectious disease is a pandemic. It doesn't matter how deadly it is or how many cases there are.

To me the "pandemic" was the hysteria, economic shutdown, people hiding in their homes. To my old feeble brain the pandemic was over when people came out of hiding, went back to work, figured out that the world was not going to end and started going about their daily lives somewhat normally.
So to me the "pandemic" was over but Covid was still around and I guess that I was wrong. As long as there is 1 case of Covid we still have a Pandemic.

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Oh my goodness, here you go a little truthful recap numbers don't lie......
Nationwide the number of Daily deaths peaked in May.
They then dropped for 6 weeks until the middle of July.
They rose again for 2 weeks until the end of July.
The number of Daily deaths has been dropping slowly since the end of July or about the last 10 week's.

Now then the pandemic is not over but is it "out of control" as the dumbrats want you to believe? We must be doing something right. The experts are now saying that we should get on with our lives but be mindful that the virus is out there and take steps to control it. I wonder if the dumbrats will "listen to the experts" now.

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Oh my goodness, the Main Stream Media New York Times is reporting that "The Pandemic Will Be Over Sooner Than Expected". I wonder if that is just more fake news? I am glad to see that their are a couple more optimists out there.

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wisconsin is still setting records. 5 co-workers affected so far. The worker or a family member has it.

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Numbers look awful in Wisconsin now. What is going on up there? It sounds like your Governor, the doctors and the people of Wisconsin are doing a terrible job. What do you attribute the increase in cases to?

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I guess that I am not the only one. I heard a news reporter on tv this morning say that the way to fight the pandemic was not with fear but with courage and laughter. He said that we must face it head on and not hide from it.

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Wisconsin is still setting records for cases and deaths. 34 deaths yesterday , 3200 cases per day lately. Too many people think wearing a mask is a joke. How can you go to a bar and drink if you are wearing a mask. Too many sporting events with no mask. Schools are going virtual. We have a long way to go. People are not taking this serious enough to get rid of it.

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Wisconsin is still setting records for cases and deaths. 34 deaths yesterday , 3200 cases per day lately. Too many people think wearing a mask is a joke. How can you go to a bar and drink if you are wearing a mask. Too many sporting events with no mask. Schools are going virtual. We have a long way to go. People are not taking this serious enough to get rid of it.

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I read that although it is not widely accepted amongst epidemiologists or "experts" quite a few of them say that the way to fight Covid is to establish herd immunity. They say that we must do it slowly so as not to overwhelm hospitals. We have to be able to support the people that get sick and not allow them to die. They say that the reason that there is a surge in cases now is because those states have had so few cases in the beginning. Their citizens have very little herd immunity.
The experts at the World Health Organization now say that President Trump was right to reopen the economy and that people should not stay in.
When Biden and the dumbrats say that they would "listen to the experts", I guess that they would listen to the experts that agreed with them.
Most of the "experts" are now saying that with hindsight, President Trump's response to the pandemic was the right thing to do.

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Most of the "experts" are now saying that with hindsight, President Trump's response to the pandemic was the right thing to do.

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...lways-or-often/

CDC study reports 85% of covid patients reported wearing mask always or often. Strangely only 4% of patients in this study reported never wearing a mask.
I've personally have been concerned about not so much the mask wearing but the carelessness of those who do but think they are saving the world. Those in the medical community have been trained and what a huge portion of the population regularly wearing masks do goes against all their training. Wearing the same mask over and over without high temp washing between uses or using a new disposable each time one is put on, the constant touching and adjusting, the long term wearing of the same mask for hours with the build up of humidity causing all sorts of things to grow and flourish to the point they are like a petri dish over your mouth and nose. Most of the mask wearers don't realise these are the most unhygienic things in their wardrobe, their underwear probably carry less germs! For your own safety either leave it off or learn the proper procedure for gowning.

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If you are that scared outside of your house of other people living their lives without a mask, stay home. I plan to live my life working(outside my home), hunting, and enjoying family and friends. I have no issue with those that want to wear masks or hide in the basement, just don’t think you have a right to force your thinking on me.

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If you are that scared outside of your house of other people living their lives without a mask, stay home. I plan to live my life working(outside my home), hunting, and enjoying family and friends. I have no issue with those that want to wear masks or hide in the basement, just don’t think you have a right to force your thinking on me.

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Why is it that the "libertarians" are the ones that think they can tell everyone else how to act? They should change their name to the "controllers". They should concern themselves more with their actions and their leader's actions and less with everyone else's actions.

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Why is it that the "libertarians" are the ones that think they can tell everyone else how to act? They should change their name to the "controllers". They should concern themselves more with their actions and their leader's actions and less with everyone else's actions.

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Phizer said today that they will have effectiveness data on its new vaccine finalized and ready for the FDA in a couple of weeks. It looks like we might not have to wait for herd immunity.

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