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Crooks are crooks and slick handlers are slick handlers. You don't have to be a crook to be a slick handler and most crooks aren't smart enough to be very slick.

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What makes a slick handler? If another dog is babbling and the handler won't strike it and mine strikes and I take a first strike is that slick handling? If another dog trees and a guy won'e tree it and mine trees and I take a first tree is that slick handling. Do I have to tell another handler the rules and if I don't is that slick handling. How bout if a guy say's he is sick lay's down in the woods because he dog is not treed and when he dog trees jumps up and runs to the tree, is that slick handling or cheating? I been doing this a long time and have seen a bunch of crap going on. The best way to defend yourself is to know the rules and know your dog. There are ways to deal with cheaters and slick handlers and you had better get it figured out if you don't want to go home mad every hunt. Most guys just can't take getting beat and think they have a dog that is not as good as they think it is. One time I hunted with a known cheater and my reply to the guy driving with me was this, "I ain't winning, but he ain't winning either. I strike my dog when it strikes and tree my dog when it trees. Other then that I expect the other handlers to do the same. Mark Lucas

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All I know is there are a whole lot of guys in this sport who cant admit they got beat by a better dog or a better handler .....so whenever they lose....they say they got cheated by a crook or slick handler.
There are crooks and there are slick handlers....but there are a whole lot more sore losers and cry babies who dont know how to lose without crying fowl everytime and badmouthing the dog or handler who beat them fair and square by the rules. Nobody wins every cast and even the best dogs out there get beat sometimes.
If I was a redbone hunter going to the Nationals(which I am) ...I'd be more worried about the dogs I am gonna have to beat on Saturday night than I would about the redbone handlers I have to beat on Friday night in the all red casts.
Remember who the real competition is....and be as ready as you can to meet it head on and see how it shakes out.
Win or lose...act like a grown up!

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Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Billy the Kid
Dual Gr.Ch.- PKC Ch. Outlaw Timber Girl
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2013 AKC Ladies World Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch.- PKC Ch- AKC Ladies World Ch Ky Moonlight Breanna
Gr.Nt.Ch. - PKC Ch. Ky Moonlight Woody
Dual Grand Moonlight Deana
Dual Grand Ch.- PKC Ch. Moonlight AfterShock
Dual Grand Nighty Night Amber
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Big Time Britt
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Billy Jean
Gr.Nt.Ch-PKC Ch.-2015 PKC Red Days Champ Outlaw Cherry Bomb
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Breeze
Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man (over $20.000 won in PKC & CHKC) 2019 Southern Redbone Days Overall Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Mac
Gr.Nt.Ch. Classy Cali (Heavy Outlaw bred)
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It is a lot easier to act like a grownup when you win.

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
It is a lot easier to act like a grownup when you win.

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Proud lifetime member of the NRA
Banshee Wildlife Products
Hoosier Outlaw / Moonlight Redbones
1994 American Redbone Coonhound Association Hunter of the Year
My first 3 redbones raised from pup's were:
Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Billy the Kid
Dual Gr.Ch.- PKC Ch. Outlaw Timber Girl
Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Scarlett Fever
(((( Current Favorites ))))
2013 AKC Ladies World Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch.- PKC Ch- AKC Ladies World Ch Ky Moonlight Breanna
Gr.Nt.Ch. - PKC Ch. Ky Moonlight Woody
Dual Grand Moonlight Deana
Dual Grand Ch.- PKC Ch. Moonlight AfterShock
Dual Grand Nighty Night Amber
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Big Time Britt
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Billy Jean
Gr.Nt.Ch-PKC Ch.-2015 PKC Red Days Champ Outlaw Cherry Bomb
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Breeze
Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man (over $20.000 won in PKC & CHKC) 2019 Southern Redbone Days Overall Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Mac
Gr.Nt.Ch. Classy Cali (Heavy Outlaw bred)
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Cat Scratch Fever
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Addiction
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Overdose
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Jinx
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Banshee
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cant wait for this event win loose or draw idc as long as it happens fair and square I enjoy seeing good dogs work an every time I go to hunt I hope to draw the best on the grounds so that if I do loose I can hopefully say I had a great time. But I do like feeling like I got a fighting chance lol

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I watched some kids at an Easter egg hunt yesterday. They sure weren't very happy about losing or when a bigger kid swooped in and got an egg that was right in front of them.

Jayroe, but you are one of those slick hired handlers that we are talking about. Are you coming up to Jared's Thursday night? Only 3 days left, I am going to get my oil changed today, pack my clothes tomorrow and hit the road Wednesday.

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I hate to lose more than I like to win, but sometimes a handler has to work for the dog, but I’d much rather be dumb and let the dog do all the work. If there was ever a way to eliminate the handler aspect, I’d be all for it.

Safe travels everyone, maybe one day I’ll be slick enough to get hired. 🤣

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.....maybe one day I’ll be slick enough to get hired. 🤣

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Didn't I draw out with you once? Shane had hired you to hunt Mac.

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Didn't I draw out with you once? Shane had hired you to hunt Mac.

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And then them two boys circled the most obvious slick I’ve ever seen, question is, do you remember his name? Cause you swore to him you’d never forget it!

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I have it written down on my "list".

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So what "slick or crooked" handlers do we need to watch out for?

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Jared Hutcheson, Jeff Murphy, Justin Jayroe, Blake Wheeler and Jason Guilliams are all big time slick Pro Handlers that will be there.

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So what "slick or crooked" handlers do we need to watch out for?

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Proud lifetime member of the NRA
Banshee Wildlife Products
Hoosier Outlaw / Moonlight Redbones
1994 American Redbone Coonhound Association Hunter of the Year
My first 3 redbones raised from pup's were:
Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Billy the Kid
Dual Gr.Ch.- PKC Ch. Outlaw Timber Girl
Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Scarlett Fever
(((( Current Favorites ))))
2013 AKC Ladies World Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch.- PKC Ch- AKC Ladies World Ch Ky Moonlight Breanna
Gr.Nt.Ch. - PKC Ch. Ky Moonlight Woody
Dual Grand Moonlight Deana
Dual Grand Ch.- PKC Ch. Moonlight AfterShock
Dual Grand Nighty Night Amber
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Big Time Britt
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Billy Jean
Gr.Nt.Ch-PKC Ch.-2015 PKC Red Days Champ Outlaw Cherry Bomb
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Breeze
Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man (over $20.000 won in PKC & CHKC) 2019 Southern Redbone Days Overall Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Mac
Gr.Nt.Ch. Classy Cali (Heavy Outlaw bred)
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Cat Scratch Fever
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Addiction
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Overdose
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Jinx
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Banshee
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To enjoy lots of pics and videos of out redbones, find me on Facebook
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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Jared Hutcheson, Jeff Murphy, Justin Jayroe, Blake Wheeler and Jason Guilliams are all big time slick Pro Handlers that will be there.

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Wait till y’all see who the undercover handler is nobody knows about 🤔😂

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Redbone:
All Grand Outlaw G-Man
GRNITECH
GRAND SHOW CH
CHKC GRCH (all time $ leader)
PKC PLATINUM CH (all time $ leader)
2016 RESERVE FALL SUPER STAKE CH (only redbone to ever make the final 4)


Grnitech PKC CH Night Stalkin roxie
2018 top 16 PKC redbone breed
2018 Top 16 PA state race
2019 National Redbone days Champion


Walker:
UKC Dual Grand, PKC Silver Ch, CHKC Champion
Frost Bite Zoey

UKC Dual Grand, PKC Silver Ch, CHKC Champion
Dirty Little Tramp
Russ Myer hunt winner $20,000
Final 4 PKC super stakes


Past:
GOLD CH GRCH GRNITECH Classy Cali
GRCH GRNITECH 'PR' Outlaw Jack
CH GRNITECH 'PR' Apache Man
CH GRNITECH 'PR' Famous Outlaw Ann
CH GRNITECH 'PR' Tree Burning Moses

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Didn't you handle Boone in the big money BSKC hunt in Mississippi?

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Nah just gave him a quarter pounder with cheese & a large Dr Pepper... he said he just wanted to hunt another redbone that’d go huntin, even taught him the ole lead snap trick that everyone thinks is magic 😂

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407 E. Clarksville st
Jefferson, Tx 75657
903-650-4495 call/txt anytime
Banshee Coon Squaller
Eukanuba Dog food



Redbone:
All Grand Outlaw G-Man
GRNITECH
GRAND SHOW CH
CHKC GRCH (all time $ leader)
PKC PLATINUM CH (all time $ leader)
2016 RESERVE FALL SUPER STAKE CH (only redbone to ever make the final 4)


Grnitech PKC CH Night Stalkin roxie
2018 top 16 PKC redbone breed
2018 Top 16 PA state race
2019 National Redbone days Champion


Walker:
UKC Dual Grand, PKC Silver Ch, CHKC Champion
Frost Bite Zoey

UKC Dual Grand, PKC Silver Ch, CHKC Champion
Dirty Little Tramp
Russ Myer hunt winner $20,000
Final 4 PKC super stakes


Past:
GOLD CH GRCH GRNITECH Classy Cali
GRCH GRNITECH 'PR' Outlaw Jack
CH GRNITECH 'PR' Apache Man
CH GRNITECH 'PR' Famous Outlaw Ann
CH GRNITECH 'PR' Tree Burning Moses

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Didn't you handle Boone in the big money BSKC hunt in Mississippi?

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I thought that it was supposed to be a secret that y'all had hired Keith to handle G Man?

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I just wish that someone would wear a body cam on every cast and record all the action..I have to be out of town(in vegas) and cant make it as a vendor or spectator and i really miss all this action...At most hunts as a vendor i get to hear both sides of every cast disagreement ....or how great the cast went..Hope everyone will be safe in their travels and earn some of those pesos ukc is handing out!!

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John you're gonna be in Vegas and hate to miss the action? Really? Surely you're jk

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John you're gonna be in Vegas and hate to miss the action? Really? Surely you're jk

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These trips to vegas cost more than redbone days and a few entries ...I enjoy this redbone group as much on this board as any bunch.

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Originally posted by John B.Dalton
These trips to vegas cost more than redbone days and a few entries ...I enjoy this redbone group as much on this board as any bunch.

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