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66 & sunny with a light wind but sure is nice out unload my dog box in the building tryin ta get my cover back on my truck with out much luck pour out water on it but evry time i try ta stretch it to get it fasten my dang ribs gets a bad pain may go up my buddys shop put his torpedo heater on it later today or in the moronin

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In for a bite ta eat 60 sunny & GREAT !!!!!!!!!


By George we are mostly sunny and 55 ,lol I will take it .

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man what a great day weather wise..still 67 degrees..i think it broke 70 today..i was outside all day and enjoyed it..stays this warm and the boats coming out...

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man what a great day weather wise..still 67 degrees..i think it broke 70 today..i was outside all day and enjoyed it..stays this warm and the boats coming out...
they been stocking trout sense jan here but i haven't got out yet

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Id like have me a couple of trout fried nice with some taters and ramps mmmercy ,lol .
Earlier today I watched the movie Geronimo ,so I got curious and looked up some info on some of those characters . Found some reading for you guys . This book was written by Lt. Brittin Davis who helped bring Geronimo in ,,,, The Truth About Geronimo .



http://brianrwright.com/Coffee_Coas...th_Geronimo.htm

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Id like have me a couple of trout fried nice with some taters and ramps mmmercy ,lol .
Earlier today I watched the movie Geronimo ,so I got curious and looked up some info on some of those characters . Found some reading for you guys . This book was written by Lt. Brittin Davis who helped bring Geronimo in ,,,, The Truth About Geronimo .



http://brianrwright.com/Coffee_Coas...th_Geronimo.htm

fried trout taters and ramps sure does make me hungry lol

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had a little thunder and lighting here last night and a brief down pour...

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moronin folk's rainy ole moronin here rain all day from what thier sayin

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How-do all,another day closer to spring,not as warm today as yesterday but still better than it could be,I sure hope to get in more fishin' this year,got some new spots to try,never got my boat,trailer,or motor lined out this winter so I'll just have to adjust accordingly.How's everybody's ailments this mornin'?

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im kickin just not to high i was going up to my buddy's shop this moronin finish putin my cover on but with this rain id have ta push all the drip water of the floor so im gonna wait for a dry day probly lol i got 3 sides fasten down

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I'm like you guy's gonna get me some fishin in this year . Now for my ailments, neck issues causes my numb fingers ,still going to therapy for that.

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I got about an hours worth of work to do on my boat then fill up the fuel tank and go..got to run a new air line for my aerated live well ..i like keeping them catfish alive till I get home.then I put them in 500gal holding tanks for a week to ten days..it sure makes a big difference in the quality of the meat....plus if I only have a few I can wait till I catch more,then dress them at my leisure...going to put my order in for some shad guts and cut skip jacks next week..

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it quit rainin so i did go up to the shop and put the heat to my cover gott er stretch back on think im gonna get 1 them newer 1s that ya just fold up be lot's easier

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Well I believe the weather man missed the boat again,talked 40's w/ clouds,I got plenty of sun & 57 been out & about in the woods,went to check on the boat & trailer,just a bit muddy on the hill I gotta clime w/ truck or tractor,but if it stays dry I'll fetch it this week.

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Skipjack...

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Sent you an email about skipjack, let me know, appreciate it....
ron.....

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just watch a 13 yr old girl get quified for a million bucks in the womens barrel racin at the big amercain rodeo next sunday think she won 42000 bucks for the top run in the semi finals today

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Sent you an email about skipjack, let me know, appreciate it....
ron.....

...i'll send it you .

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Good for her that'll help mom & dad on the college fund.

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Fascinating story from a soldier who lived it
by Britton Davis
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Truth about GeronimoThis summer (2010) I was pleasantly amazed by the 1993 movie Geronimo, starring a young Matt Damon (as the author of this book: Britton Davis), Gene Hackman, Jason Patric, Robert Duvall, and Wes Studi. I love that film; my mom said she remembered seeing it closer to when it came out, and that it gave an authentic portrayal of the Indian conflicts. Well if the movie gives a fair idea of the interplay of Indian and White cultures in late 19th century America, the book provides a stunning achievement in that area. Growing up as I did in the decade of the 1950s to John Wayne movies and plenty of Westerns—where an Indian was a Hollywood actor with dark makeup—I fashioned some of my childhood heroes from the (white) actors.

In the 1960s and the 1970s, Hollywood and culture in general started asking questions, wondering whether truth about the American Indian Wars, and the Indians themselves, was being buried up there on the screen along with with the straight skinny about the Red White and Blue welfare/warfare state. Several movies came along to desuppress the longstanding notion that the American government were the good guys vis a vis the Indians. One that comes to mind is Little Big Man with Dustin Hoffman (1970), another, believe it or not, probably more from the 'right wing' perspective, was Eastwood's The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976):

Ten Bears: These things you say we will have, we already have.
Josey Wales: That's true. I ain't promising you nothing extra. I'm just giving you life and you're giving me life. And I'm saying that men can live together without butchering one another.
Ten Bears: It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same iron of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life... or death. It shall be life.

To the book, very few of us I'll imagine have read the nonfictional accounts of a soldier who was in the middle of the cultural conflict—the wars, often simply management of the peace—back in those days. And that's what 2d Lieutenant, Britton Davis, Third Cavalry, brings to the table. It's a true story! No we mustn't get carried away: every person has his points of view. But with The Truth about Geronimo all the key engagements and action can be verified through historical records. Further, you sense immediately—Davis wrote the book in 1929 at the age of 69—that the author is annoyed by all the pulp fiction and other fiction that passed for fact in journals of the time.

Doggone it, he's going to set the record straight. He was living in San Diego in the later 1920s, and became aware of how the early movie industry was taking license with the truth. In an interview with a reporter:

"I got dadblamed [not his real adjective] tired of hearing so many untruths about Geronimo and his capture that I sat down and wrote the truth about it. Geronimo was never captured."

Davis was also motivated by a longstanding controversy he had had in veterans' circles with another participant in the Geronimo campaign, General James Parker. Parker was an admirer of General George Crook's replacement, General Miles. Miles was a more willing executor of the deceitful policies of the American state toward the Southwest Indians in general, and its treatment of General Crook's (and Davis's) loyal Indian scouts in particular. Most of the Indians were sent away from their families by train to federal prison in Florida, as was Geronimo.[1]

What distinguishes Davis's story is his living day-to-day with the Indians he was sent to 'manage.' And here's a telling passage of his sentiments:

In my talks with the Indians they showed no resentment of the way they had been treated in the past; only wonderment at the why of it. Why had they been shifted from reservation to reservation; told to farm and had their crops destroyed; assured that the Government would ration them, then left to half starve; herded in the hot, malarial river bottoms of the Gila and San Carlos, when they were mountain people? These and other questions I could not answer. And above all they wondered if they would now be allowed to live at peace. Poor devils! Their fears were realized. In two years they were in prisons in Florida; four hundred innocent people, men, women, and children, who had kept the faith with us, punished for the guilt of barely one-fourth who had been lied to and frightened into leaving the Reservation by Geronimo, Chihuahua, and two or three other malcontents.

We have heard much talk of the treachery of the Indian. In treachery, broken pledges on the part of high officials, lies, thievery, slaughter of defenseless women and children, and every crime in the catalogue of man's inhumanity to man the Indian was a mere amateur compared to the "noble white man." His crimes were retail, ours wholesale. We learned his methods and with our superior intelligence, improved upon them...

Davis is a remarkable man and soldier, too, just out of the academy. He learns rapidly the lay of the land. The great majority of the book is a description, not of military campaigns, but of how life was with the Indians on the Reservation(s) and in and around the Mexican border. You learn that the discontented Indians—meaning those discontented enough to either prey on white settlements or to break free and head into the Mexican Sierra Madres (the Mexicans fought them, too)—would have been mollified, as a minimum, by yielding them decent lands for a pastoral or continued nomadic existence. As Wes Studi playing Geronimo in the movie puts it:

Geronimo: With all this land, why is there no room for the Apache? Why does the White-Eye want all land?

What clearly comes across is how the government turned the indigenous American populations into effective prisoners on their own lands. Having stated all this, reading the daily accounts of Lieutenant Davis puts a completely human context to what is going on. And of course, Davis' description of the 'capture' (the coming in) of Geronimo simply rounds out the historical truth of the era. What convinces me that Davis' account is authentic—aside from the straightforward, often humor-rich, prose—is that he often takes issue with the federal military authority. Britton Davis wound up as a businessman, managing the Corralitos Mining and Cattle Company, a property of a New York firm on the eastern flank of the Sierra Madre in Chihuahua Province, Mexico.

A great humanitarian, military read: surely closest to the way it was.

[1] Some time later, Crooks and other white military leaders who sought humane treatment of the Indian managed to reunite some of them at various federally designated locations.

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Chuck,I always looked at it this way,if it weren't for the Indians,them Pilgrims would of starved to dead that 1st winter,greedy white man thanked 'em by tradin' trinkets for land we call New York & trashed the dickins out of it,just makes me wonder how we're gonna feel when somebody comes & takes over America .... could happen,what goes around,comes around.

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Rex & TD, You're running behind. Hit the Embraw yesterday, not much luck but did get on the water for a couple hours. Little to early but did get 3 channel, biggest around 3 pounds and smallest maybe 6 inches. Done a little running and playing around more than fishing as they were'nt biting much.
Love that new Alumicraft and 25 Tahatsu (Nissan) Motor. Will flat fly. Blew my boy's 25 Suzuki away. Put in at Ryan Bridge and went up around 2 miles, down maybe 2 miles.
Have'nt had any luck finding Shad Guts yet but Pana has Shad sides. Caught mine on Sonny's bait.

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AK,that's my life story,runnin' behind,I went south yesterday past the lake,dang a boo ku of sand left behind,if that sand was gold,a guy could have a boat load of toys or anything else for that matter.I used to powerwash for a guy that ran a marina over at Shelbyville that sold them Tahatsu motors he said that was the only kind he'd sell,& don't need to stock many parts for 'em.

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If it's anything like mine,I hear ya,it's heavy but a barge of a boat,of coarse it is a '49 model.

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cold frosty moronin here it's up to 32 suppose to get in the 40s i still have a 1968 starcraft 12 ft that belong to my granpap on my dad's side we use it some on the trout lakes ive had 3 pretty nice bass boats a fisher 15 ft with a 40 hp merc 17 ft starcraft with a 75 hp merc and a 17ft nitro but it only had a 40hp merc on it

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