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It is a tough life but someone has to do it!!!

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People accuse me of being color blind. The truth is I will hunt red ones, blue ones, black and white ones, yellow ones, black and tan ones, or even brindle ones; Just as long as they are English!

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Dan got us stuck in the mud! Well I was driving but some how it was still Dan's fault lol

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WE WERE TRYING TO BACK DOOR A TOUGH COON ,DIDN'T WORK,COON 5,PRIMETIME 0.THE ONLY TIME WE HAD THIS COON ON THE OUTSIDE HE WAS ON THE EDGE OF A HIGHWALL AND WE LEFT HIM.

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WE WERE TRYING TO BACK DOOR A TOUGH COON ,DIDN'T WORK,COON 5,PRIMETIME 0.THE ONLY TIME WE HAD THIS COON ON THE OUTSIDE HE WAS ON THE EDGE OF A HIGHWALL AND WE LEFT HIM.

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People accuse me of being color blind. The truth is I will hunt red ones, blue ones, black and white ones, yellow ones, black and tan ones, or even brindle ones; Just as long as they are English!

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THEY ARE THE GOOD ONE'S.WHERE THEY LIVE MAKES THEM TOUGH BUT IN THE END THEY GET TREED ALSO.

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THEY ARE THE GOOD ONE'S.WHERE THEY LIVE MAKES THEM TOUGH BUT IN THE END THEY GET TREED ALSO.

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People accuse me of being color blind. The truth is I will hunt red ones, blue ones, black and white ones, yellow ones, black and tan ones, or even brindle ones; Just as long as they are English!

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THAT AREA IS ALWAYS TOUGH,SO MANY HIGHWALLS,COON CLIMBS A TREE AGAINST THE HIGHWALL AND WALKS OVER THE TOP,DOG TREE'S RIGHT AND IT STILL GETS AWAY,LOL.

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when u catch that come to my house he must have a brother who lives there i have treed him 3 times and i cant never get him close to same place every time ,,,he is killing me i am broke down and my dog aint much better..

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when u catch that come to my house he must have a brother who lives there i have treed him 3 times and i cant never get him close to same place every time ,,,he is killing me i am broke down and my dog aint much better..

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Dan i am going to mess Robbies mind up these are questions that i have asked different Game Wardens over the years and have always got different answers from different officers.

Can you coon hunt during Deer season?

can you road hunt out of coon season with a 22 rifle locked in your tool box?

If you are hunting out of season and come back into your truck and Game warden is there and you have 22 rifle in truck can you get a ticket for hunting with a gun.

Can a locked tool box or dog box containing a 22 rifle be considered carrying a concealed weapon.

You have to make three moves to get the rifle out of the locked box get out of truck unlock box and get rifle out my guess would be no but if thats not true then ever one that hunts better have a concealed license permit.

Dan i think i know the answers to most of these questions as i have worked law enforcement of a sort for 23 plus years in corrections just want to satisfy my and others curiosity when we are carrying that rifle and not sure it is legal or not.

Going to print off Robbies answers and carry with me as proof of evidence in my glove box in case one of those smart alex officers out to make a name tries to tell me other wise.

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Dan i am going to mess Robbies mind up these are questions that i have asked different Game Wardens over the years and have always got different answers from different officers.

Can you coon hunt during Deer season?

can you road hunt out of coon season with a 22 rifle locked in your tool box?

If you are hunting out of season and come back into your truck and Game warden is there and you have 22 rifle in truck can you get a ticket for hunting with a gun.

Can a locked tool box or dog box containing a 22 rifle be considered carrying a concealed weapon.

You have to make three moves to get the rifle out of the locked box get out of truck unlock box and get rifle out my guess would be no but if thats not true then ever one that hunts better have a concealed license permit.

Dan i think i know the answers to most of these questions as i have worked law enforcement of a sort for 23 plus years in corrections just want to satisfy my and others curiosity when we are carrying that rifle and not sure it is legal or not.

Going to print off Robbies answers and carry with me as proof of evidence in my glove box in case one of those smart alex officers out to make a name tries to tell me other wise.

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some good looking pups I like the blue

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Going to print off Robbies answers and carry with me as proof of evidence in my glove box in case one of those smart alex officers out to make a name tries to tell me other wise.

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Carl, I try not to mix pleasure with work. I use Coon Hunting and talking about coon hunting as one of my many releases from my job. The UKC message board is a place I go to talk dogs not work. I also would never want anyone to use me to try and prove another officer wrong. I do not know what officer you are referring to but I by no means want to try and discredit another Game Warden or Law Enforcement Officer.

With that being said I do want to try and answer your questions:
The law says you can have a gun with you while you are coon hunting any time of year. In the field or in the truck it doesn't change anything. I think that should answer your many questions about having a gun when it is not kill season.

Now onto coon hunting during deer season:
"During modern gun deer season, raccoon and opossum hunters may not hunt during daylight hours. Night hunting on Friday, Nov. 7, 2014 shall conclude by 30 minutes before sunrise on Saturday, Nov. 8, 2014, which is when shooting hours open for modern gun deer season." That is per our webpage. So you have to hunt night time only during modern gun deer season.

As far as to what is considered concealed and what is not considered concealed that is a can of worms I am not going to open on here. You run into way to many "what ifs" and it runs into a million questions and scenarios. We need to just be thankful that we live in a open carry state and we still have our gun and hunting rights.

If I have failed to answer any questions or have been unclear feel free to call me anytime. If you want to call and talk about what is considered concealed and what is not that would be a lot easier than trying to discuss it on here. Or if anyone just wants to call and talk dogs that would be even better

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some good looking pups I like the blue

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Carl, I try not to mix pleasure with work. I use Coon Hunting and talking about coon hunting as one of my many releases from my job. The UKC message board is a place I go to talk dogs not work. I also would never want anyone to use me to try and prove another officer wrong. I do not know what officer you are referring to but I by no means want to try and discredit another Game Warden or Law Enforcement Officer.

With that being said I do want to try and answer your questions:
The law says you can have a gun with you while you are coon hunting any time of year. In the field or in the truck it doesn't change anything. I think that should answer your many questions about having a gun when it is not kill season.

Now onto coon hunting during deer season:
"During modern gun deer season, raccoon and opossum hunters may not hunt during daylight hours. Night hunting on Friday, Nov. 7, 2014 shall conclude by 30 minutes before sunrise on Saturday, Nov. 8, 2014, which is when shooting hours open for modern gun deer season." That is per our webpage. So you have to hunt night time only during modern gun deer season.

As far as to what is considered concealed and what is not considered concealed that is a can of worms I am not going to open on here. You run into way to many "what ifs" and it runs into a million questions and scenarios. We need to just be thankful that we live in a open carry state and we still have our gun and hunting rights.

If I have failed to answer any questions or have been unclear feel free to call me anytime. If you want to call and talk about what is considered concealed and what is not that would be a lot easier than trying to discuss it on here. Or if anyone just wants to call and talk dogs that would be even better

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Thanks Robbie for all the questions you just answered i promise not to put you on the spot again about the laws of the land.

I promise if you ever come down with Dan to hunt with me and Tommy i will school you in a lot of old mountain coon hunting terms.

EXAMPLES: What is a track jacking dog?

What is a sled track dog and many more terms that we use to describe coon hounds.

Thanks
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Is that Rory Cowles holding a white and red dog? I can't believe what my eyes are seeing lol

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ROB.HE'S NOT HOLDING MUCH OF HIM,BOUT FAR AWAY AS HE CAN GET,NOTICE HOW HE;S STANDING BACK,LOL.GOOD PICTURE

P.S, I BET RORY WASHED HIS HANDS RIGHT AFTER THAT PHOTO,JUST KIDDING.MAJOR LOOKS GOOD ON THE BENCH.

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Is that Rory Cowles holding a white and red dog? I can't believe what my eyes are seeing lol

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I did Dan washed them like a germ a phobe in a hand shaking contest Naw I was really pretty proud of them they done well but all I'll hold on them red ones is the tail!!!!

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Gr. Nt. Ch. Cowles' Big River Blue Goose
Gr. Nt. Ch. Pkc Ch Cowles' Big River Jesse Lee, 2011 Ukc (Reserve World Ch.)2nd Place Overall 2013 SS and Performance sire
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ROB HAS HIM BY THE THROAT,I WONDER IF THAT'S A THREAT,OL MAJOR DON'T MIND.

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ROB HAS HIM BY THE THROAT,I WONDER IF THAT'S A THREAT,OL MAJOR DON'T MIND.

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