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Richard Lambert
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Re: How about that MOE?

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Originally posted by Browntown's Red
if there put in the woods to see what the can really do. Lets hope the best for them as MOE moves into his own.


Poor Moe, I am going to have to lay him up for a few nights. These long 6-7 nights/wk have got him down to just skin and bones. He and Jimi traveled 4 miles(per the Garmin) on one drop. They did manage to tree 3 coons last night though. He is not in shape for these Tennessee coons yet but he has no quit in him so i guess that I will have to leave him on his chain for a few nights.

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Re: Dogs

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I'm really looking forward to this spring and summer I love the game of waiting and working to see who rises to the top...


I know who is going to rise to the top... Moe's Aunt Chicken Foot!

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Chick

We'll see Richard...young dogs have a lot of future ahead of them as long as nothing happens to them and there are some good ones waiting in the wings. I saw Chick go and I liked her from end to end, she was good on the ground and a nice tree dog too so it's easy to like one like that.

The kind of hard work that you're putting on Moe is good stuff and it will make him into a dog if he's got the goods so we'll see.

It looks like our weather is going to make a change towards spring in the next 8-10 days so that's good, these dogs will start to get some work.

We've still got 5-6" of snow on the north sides but the southern exposures are clearing up a bit at a time so it won't be long.

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Rabble Rouser????

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Rabble...

Here are some photos of the old boy...Red shows a lot of those old traits...

These first three below are from close to his last days and the last one is from back in his prime...








I see a lot of the old boy in many of these grand pups and even great grand pups. Raven was always on the wood, just like most of the pups from the Rat and Raven crosses turned out to be...

Dual Gr. Ch. PR T-Top Rock-N-Raven


Lots of good blood in these dogs...Who knows when the old boy will show up in one of these nice young hounds like Red and many of his mates.

I've got a lot of the pieces right here in the yard...so...I'm always a step closer...I love this stuff!

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old dogs

them pic bring back alot of good times with them to but you are right about them leaving their mark in the up and coming

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Re: Rabble...

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I see a lot of the old boy in many of these grand pups and even great grand pups. ...Who knows when the old boy will show up in one of these nice young hounds


...............A rising star .........................


...................The next big thing.................

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Hi Tom , my daughter Sarah made this add for Red. Hope its ok to post here!!

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How is Dozer doing??


Been very very busy lately, along with the 12" of snow we just got a few days ago, I will be waiting for the 20+ inches of snow on the ground to melt down a bit before Dozer gets back into shape. Can't wait for the warmer weather they are forecasting....... I have a feeling my camera and boots may get wore out this year....

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Hey...

It's good to hear that you're still alive and kicking Dave...that's a good sign that spring must be right around the corner

That snow missed us for the most part, we got a lot of rain, sleet and a combination of about everything else that day but the worst of it went north and eventually east of us.

It won't be long and we'll have decent weather, the frogs will be singing and the worms will be up...and that means the coons will be fun to hunt again.

I'll be looking forward to getting together again for a hunt or two...hang in there...winter is just about done.

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pups

Hey Tom i thought i would show you a peek at another gen. of t-top descendants, she looks like she is about to pop.

Dual Gr. Stonewall Rebel & NiteCh. Timber Tight Brandy



we'll just have to wait and see.

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Wow...

She's got a belly full for sure Tim...I sure liked her pictures in the woods and if she can put that kind of stuff into the pups along with what Rebel has to offer, I'd say those are going to be some winners for sure.

I haven't heard from you for awhile and wondered what you've been up to but now I can at least see that ol' Rebel has been busy.

I'll look forward to seeing how they shape up.

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old dog

Been hunting this guy up and hit a couple hunts with him, won 1 akc qualifier 1st and1 ukc 1st a pretty good little dog. i guess he would be Brandy's double 1st cuz.
Little Hooch


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Wilbur frist night out





got a long way to go to catch ole mom Rabble Rouser 's daughter

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Joe

Here is a picture of Joe from tonight. He and Chick looked good. 2 dens and 2 on the outside. Not bad for a moon lit night. Joe is beginning to make noticable steps each time out.
Joe

Joe and Chick

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spring

Spring must be here i seen some robins in the yard.

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Joe...

It seems like forever sometimes waiting for their brain to catch up with their nose but if he progresses like some others that I've seen in the past, the change comes pretty quick at a certain stage and then no looking back. I can't remember when he turns 2 but he's still a young dog and doing good to this point. He can track and tree so what's next is to figure out how good he can really be...and that will come pretty quick.

Lots of folks say they want a dog with a real good, cold nose but I'd guess that many of those folks never really spent the time training one like that. If the nose overpowers the other senses from young on, it takes a lot of patience to wait them out but those dogs can make very good, all around hounds as they continue to mature.

Some folks say a dog shouldn't have to be trained but most miss the point entirely. We can't teach a dog to track and tree, it's an instinct but we can do all the rest that it takes to make a dog...show them what a coon is, take them where a coon is and then repeat it again and again so that they can build on their natural instincts. Folks who aren't successful at training a dog usually don't have one of the pieces in place and mostly it's patience.

The entire process can be aggravating at times but, the best part of hunting with dogs is to see what was a good prospect, become a good finished dog. You guys are giving them the chances they need so with the patience factor firmly in place, I'd guess you're going to reap some rewards in the not so distant future.

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Re: Training day

This is Dagger...



put me in coach

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Mark, Mater will be coming home tomorrow. She and her papers should get here about the same time.

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Hunt

Dave and I went out tonight so that we could see what happened when Dagger hit the woods for the first time at night. We loaded him up with Yank and had a pretty good hunt.

We made two tracks and trees with the meat...

Yank and Dagger... (Dagger has the blue collar)








Dagger...


Coon...


This was Dagger's first time in the woods at night. He did pretty much everything I wanted to see on the first trip out in the dark. He went hunting with Yank and when they had a track struck, he stayed with it and opened enough to show me that he knew there was a coon track on the ground. Yank located and started treeing and it wasn't long and we heard a real pretty locate and Dagger went to treeing like a big dog. He treed steady until we get all the way up to him and then he was interested in what we were doing. When he realized that those lights coming up the hill were me and Dave, he went back to treeing pretty good. We got some pictures and left the coon before Dagger pooped out on us.

On the second dump, Yank struck a good track that crossed a big muddy flat. There was a real deep drainage ditch running through the middle with high grass on the sides. Yank went down in and Dagger did a header into the ditch and then decided that it was an obstacle he couldn't manage. We walked up on him and dragged him down into the bottom and then left him while we crawed out. he whined a few times and then dove in and scrambled up to the same side we were at. He took off on a dead run to catch up to Yank and then came treed solid on the creek bank We walked up on him again and "helped" him into the creek at which point he scrambled through and took off after Yank again. By this time, Yank was a good ways ahead and we think he holed the coon because he located once and was done. On the way back, he started locating and we knew he was winding a lay up so we just hung tight. By this time Dagger had caught up and was working in there with Yank. It was a couple of minutes and Yank located and almost instantly, Dagger located also and they both got to treeing good. We went up to them and they were treed on a big den with a coon on the outside. Once again, we got a few pictures and left the coon and headed out.

I am very pleased with what I saw tonight out of this young dog. He went hunting with Yank, he joined in on the tracks they came to, he located and he treed. We didn't give him a taste of a coon tonight but it won't take many and he'll be ready to make a big step forward.

He's a nice young hound with good potential, he's good looking, has a decent mouth and is willing to get with the program from the first night...that's what I like to see.

You all have been a part of just about all his training, from 3 drags to his first night in the woods...

He's ready for the next step in his progression...plenty of repetitions...

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dagger looks good tom got to love it when they follow the plan

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Hey Tom looks like there we will a few more little Rebels around now. 11 to be exact.



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Pups

Holy cow Tim...the old boy still has a few bullets left in the gun...eh?

That's a nice looking litter of pups and they are built right for success top and bottom.

I'm really glad to see Rebel get the chance to put a few more litters on the ground, he was always one of my favorites with a lot of heart and a tree dog like no other. I've got a video of him and his brothers and sister all treed on a lynx and also on a lion. I think he was about 20 months old at the time. It's a special video because it shows Dual Gr. Ch. PR McMillan's Stonewall Rebel, Dual Gr. Ch. PR Bate's Bawlin' Boomer, Nt. Ch. Ch. PR Bate's Red Ruby and Gr. Nt. Ch. PR Bate's Red Ranger all together in that one video. Rebel, Boomer and Ruby were by way of Rat and Raven and Ranger was by way of Rat and Cheyenne.

It seems like just yesterday but a lot of years have passsed since those days so I hope folks try and take advantage of the old boy while he's still here.

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3rd Generation Gr.Nt.Ch. Gr.Ch.PR' T-Top Rabble Rouser
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Gorgeous pup

I noted this on the other thread also but...she is a gorgeous pup and with a world of potential.

I'll love to watch her grow along with the rest of her mates.

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