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I know what you mean Steve. However, that litter is starting really early. All the reports back from guys seem to say something similar. It is hard to believe I know. I would have told ya you are crazy myself! Another thing, where that pup is being hunted at is at the holy grail of coon hunting! Mel has some great hunting up there for starting pups.
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Stroker the young male u have I sold terry. Stroker was treeing his own 6.5 months. With and without help. I have about half dozen people that seen scouty do it young and alone split. Steve called nautural early starting coon hounds this not in everyhound. Most blueticks take a year or so lol.
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to answer some of the questions, Randy and I went hunting last night we took my 2 yr old and a 6 month old out of joker x kate. at first she didnt do a whole lot, took her awhile to go out, then they both split, she had two coons and mine had a den, then we shot the coon to her, she fought it, and we went to another spot, and they spilt again, she had a den and troop had a coon, the we truned loose again, and they treed together. Aint saying she will tree all night long yet, but looked real good and aint afraid of coons. I have seen alot less out of nt ch and grntch. Trust me Steve I have been the biggest critic of a dog that age doing it on its own. But the walker men have been beating their chest for years about making dogs nt ch and gr nt by 9 mnths, 1 yr etc. now I have finally seen that potential out of an english dog.

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Charlie is home sick, going to give him a while to get used to me. BOATER had his first nite hunt last nite .Had second strike first coon ,they caught it on the ground. Redbone kept strike open had to strike back in for 25, first tree had the coon . Fist strike on next coon ,track blew up withdrew him had alittle rough dog on the cast and he don't need that rite now. Give us this coon season and we will be in the winner circle. Steve those JOKER X KATE pups are really something aren't they ? I have had two people call me wanting to buy this one ,she is not for sale at any price now. Joe what I have seen they don't get any better,they are outstanding for thier age. One more week and our season starts and I know of two dogs that will be losing some weight along with thier owner.Mark ,I hope I can kill a big one for you but who knows. And again good luck to you and Randy with OLD JOKER he's a good one SEE YOU ON DOWN THE ROAD TOM

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This post is like ready a Timthy Ball ad!!

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Stroker the young male u have I sold terry. Stroker was treeing his own 6.5 months. With and without help. I have about half dozen people that seen scouty do it young and alone split. Steve called nautural early starting coon hounds this not in everyhound. Most blueticks take a year or so lol.
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Charlie is home sick, going to give him a while to get used to me. BOATER had his first nite hunt last nite .Had second strike first coon ,they caught it on the ground. Redbone kept strike open had to strike back in for 25, first tree had the coon . Fist strike on next coon ,track blew up withdrew him had alittle rough dog on the cast and he don't need that rite now. Give us this coon season and we will be in the winner circle. Steve those JOKER X KATE pups are really something aren't they ? I have had two people call me wanting to buy this one ,she is not for sale at any price now. Joe what I have seen they don't get any better,they are outstanding for thier age. One more week and our season starts and I know of two dogs that will be losing some weight along with thier owner.Mark ,I hope I can kill a big one for you but who knows. And again good luck to you and Randy with OLD JOKER he's a good one SEE YOU ON DOWN THE ROAD TOM

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Come over for a hunt and i will show you. I very happy with my two pups. Ryan Ramey finished Rosie too nite champion sat nite. Thank Ryan and Mark .

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What ? I met you in mineral and walked along with your cast , and you road with us , do you remember Chase and im his father . Ok you have Stroker he came from my female , half the liter was treeing at 7 months old and split treeing . I used to have Blue tic's the Vaughn breed and Chase and us had plenty of Blue dogs . So how can you honestly claim they will hunt even close to the quallity of these English dogs ? Man you are funny , Stroker was hunting good before you got him . If Chase would not have had to move he would have not been for sale . We seen what he can do , so if he won't hunt now maybe it's you . Randy and Tom Edward have some fine , young starting hounds . Show me a Blue Tic that can tree one at 8 months old and it would be a very , very special one , even with help .

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to answer some of the questions, Randy and I went hunting last night we took my 2 yr old and a 6 month old out of joker x kate. at first she didnt do a whole lot, took her awhile to go out, then they both split, she had two coons and mine had a den, then we shot the coon to her, she fought it, and we went to another spot, and they spilt again, she had a den and troop had a coon, the we truned loose again, and they treed together. Aint saying she will tree all night long yet, but looked real good and aint afraid of coons. I have seen alot less out of nt ch and grntch. Trust me Steve I have been the biggest critic of a dog that age doing it on its own. But the walker men have been beating their chest for years about making dogs nt ch and gr nt by 9 mnths, 1 yr etc. now I have finally seen that potential out of an english dog.

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smmm302 my buddy had aenglish female that was from his stock of 15yrs that he made gr nite at 12 months old so it can be done by english myself i like to start them young then lay them up then back at at about 1.5 yrs old like i have done my sons joker pup shes little over 3 now and doing great .

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And i seen that six month old do a real nice job the other night. But some people on here like to think their **** dont stink and they have the only show in town. Joker is throwing some nice hounds, his half brother Bo is also. Seems some people just like stirrin up crap, stead of just getting along. I will always hunt english and will always hunt the line I am hunting now. Joker is throwing some early startin COONdogs.

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Steve I dont think Iam the only show in town. I didnt see you at the last two hunts. Only ten miles from our house. You call me and said you was comeing. I know why Randy wasnt there. I also know that Joker is throwing some dogs. But you and Tom make Joker look bad when you do nothing but blow. Just like a Timthy Ball ad. His pups will do the the talking if they get in the the hunts and not on the key board.

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never said you thought you was the only show in town, but your handlers act like you are. You might want to put a muzzle on them as all they do is stir up crap, all I do is blow? I got junior qualified for the world and put another place on him. As for the not being at the hunts, you know I have been having family problems cause I told you that the day we talked. I am a husband, brother and son first, and a coonhunter second. My family takes priority over my dogs. or putting a dog on the reproducing list.

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You need more handlers like Ryan WHittaker, he doesnt say much but wins. I give him the utmost respect for that. and Steve R. you might wanna do some more winning with the english dogs before you start calling people out. and I will tell you as I have always told Terry, you are welcome to hunt with me anynight, I dont think a nite hunt shows how good a dog is, it a combination of the handler and the dog. A good pleasure hunt is when you can see how good a dog is. Terry, I dont know why you cant just relax and get along. I have always been nice to you and when I seen bo was on the reproducing list I even called and congratulated you.

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Steve,If you read the past post when you said lets go hunting. I try to get you to go for two weeks. You never show up. Thats all right. You call me and was cry about Jr and Randy. You sold him and Randy didnt pay you. Randy works his butt off on his dogs. Try to get them in hunts every weeken. It mite take him 40 nt.ch. cast to gr. them out but he still did it. Give him some help. All you have been doing the last year is Blowing. Ready our post from the past. Joker pups will talk for them selfs, if you do right. Not blow.

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Steve, I know you can read, and I know you seen where I said she split treed twice. and had two coons in one tree and a den in another. So I am gonna assume you are calling me a liar. Not sure why? I do not own any part of that female and give two shits less what she does or is, I am just stating the facts. Tell ya what, If I am wrong and you arent calling me a liar, then correct me. otherwise come up and hunt and you can see, the way I see it as of right now you aint no different then the guys you are saying "blowing smoke" you are talking crap about something you have knowledge of it to be truth or not. And in the process you are calling people liars that have no beef with you and not sure why you would have beef with me? maybe you can help me understand.

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You need more handlers like Ryan WHittaker, he doesnt say much but wins. I give him the utmost respect for that. and Steve R. you might wanna do some more winning with the english dogs before you start calling people out. and I will tell you as I have always told Terry, you are welcome to hunt with me anynight, I dont think a nite hunt shows how good a dog is, it a combination of the handler and the dog. A good pleasure hunt is when you can see how good a dog is. Terry, I dont know why you cant just relax and get along. I have always been nice to you and when I seen bo was on the reproducing list I even called and congratulated you.

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What ? I met you in mineral and walked along with your cast , and you road with us , do you remember Chase and im his father . Ok you have Stroker he came from my female , half the liter was treeing at 7 months old and split treeing . I used to have Blue tic's the Vaughn breed and Chase and us had plenty of Blue dogs . So how can you honestly claim they will hunt even close to the quallity of these English dogs ? Man you are funny , Stroker was hunting good before you got him . If Chase would not have had to move he would have not been for sale . We seen what he can do , so if he won't hunt now maybe it's you . Randy and Tom Edward have some fine , young starting hounds . Show me a Blue Tic that can tree one at 8 months old and it would be a very , very special one , even with help .

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I don't own any part of JOKER anymore, but still think JOKer is as good of a reproducer as there is out there. And no she is not for sale at any price.do not really care about money just what is right and she is right . Now on the other hand do'nt ever say anything about CHARLIE he is still half mine and allways will be unless I get sicker and can't hunt him. In which case I will give him back to Randy. And these pups do tree real live coons by there self,like Dave says throw your wallet or purse on the hood and we will take you hunting TOM So leave the old man alone

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Well Tommy I'm not sure why you are bringing up Joker or Charlie for that matter??? I really didnt want to get into this about Joker or Charlie or say anything about the two dogs buuuuuut I guess ya just couldnt keep the trap shut and the opprotunity looks waaaay too rewarding for me .... since you got defensive and couldnt leave those dogs out of it I will take any bet you are offering with YOUR dog Charlie that YOU own half of.....Lets make the stakes 100 bucks a coon

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Stroker the young male u have I sold terry. Stroker was treeing his own 6.5 months. With and without help. I have about half dozen people that seen scouty do it young and alone split. Steve called nautural early starting coon hounds this not in everyhound. Most blueticks take a year or so lol.
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How many dogs have you gone through in the last 4 or 5 year. I hunted walker, then black and tans, now English. Been coohunting since i was four. SO am not sure how I change breed every 8 to twelve months. Bottom line is this. not sure why you and Terry are awlays chiming in and putting your nose where it dont belong. Terry you said for the past two weeks you have been trying to get me to go hunting??? Dont make me pull my phone bill Terry. Cause I will copy and past it and people can see who is BLOWING

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Steve if you would have looked in some past post. You said you would take me hunting any time. I try for two weeks to get you to go. And you now show. Thats all right. By the way you call me, cry about Randy. I didnt call you !! Take Troop to the hunts and show every one what the Joker dogs can do!!!

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