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Posted by countryboys on 04-07-2013 02:43 AM:

World final four

I'm got this off of a different board. Can anybody name the redbones and year they placed.

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Posted by countryboys on 04-09-2013 12:25 AM:

Ok so 232 views and no replies. I know of Jackpot Jackie but was wondering what others made it to the final cast. Was she the only one?

Posted by runnin rebels on 04-09-2013 12:29 AM:

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Ok so 232 views and no replies. Was she the only one?

Ding ding ding!!!

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Posted by countryboys on 04-09-2013 01:33 AM:

Really??

Posted by brandon bridges on 04-09-2013 01:56 AM:

hand full

i belive a hand full have made it to the top twenty, I do think its in the redbooks

Posted by Iron_Creek on 04-09-2013 06:26 AM:

Here are some of the more current redbones that have made it to the Top 20 in the UKC World.

2004 - GRNTCH Trump's Treeing Dixie - 9th
GRNTCH Nighty Nite Moonlight Kate - 12th

2005 - GRNTCH Trump's Treeing Dixie - 18th

2006 - GRNTCH Fireball's Jackpot Jackie - 4th

2007 - GRNTCH Nighty Nite Moonlight Kate - 17th

2008 - GRNTCH Ashview's Init To Winit Reba - 15th
NTCH Jones Cedar Creek Little Hunky - 17th

2010 - GRNTCH Montana Red Mountain Ranger - 20th

2011 - GRNTCH Ashview's Init To Winit Reba - 12th

2012 - GRNTCH Layton's Classy Cali - 7th

Posted by thecoondawg76 on 04-09-2013 06:27 AM:

Re: World final four

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Originally posted by countryboys
I'm got this off of a different board. Can anybody name the redbones and year they placed.

Ukc, acha ?
Depends on which you are asking about also. Several fit the bill even one that won the whole thing in acha (most since the 80's were Fireball bred to include the overall winner) but that's the old big world hunt where as ukc is the newer big world hunt. Of course then there is the ukc world when it went by another hunt name that seen redbone winners there again. They have been in there for sure but if you're talking ukc world hunt using that name the list is pretty small.

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Posted by countryboys on 04-09-2013 12:58 PM:

Didn't realize the list was that small. So who won the acha world and what year was it?

Posted by brandon bridges on 04-09-2013 09:59 PM:

in the late 80's early 90's

they held the world series of coon hunting , i do belive joe melton hadled a dog off his fireball dog and they made it to the top sixteen. the year that was either 1990 or 91 held in GA, they
invited the UKC, ACHA, AKC , NKC , PCA top ten world finishes in each regerstry

Posted by countryboys on 04-09-2013 11:56 PM:

That was called the Jim Dandy World Series of Coonhunting. My dad won it in 89 and second in 90 if I got the years right. I've heard all kinds of stories about the top dogs of each breed. He hunted with the original fireball dog in some hunt. Heard all about him. And one of the timber chopper dogs and other top dogs.

Posted by thecoondawg76 on 04-11-2013 12:39 AM:

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Originally posted by countryboys
Didn't realize the list was that small. So who won the acha world and what year was it?

FIREBALL'S TIMBER CHOPPIN DAN it was like 2000 or so. He was double fireball coming from the top and bottom. Fireball III was the one that made the top 16 and of course old Fireball made the top 4 but that's all acha. Of course about the next thing to the world hunt in ukc is the Autumn Oaks. That's been won I mean the whole thing by Music a granddaughter of old Fireball off Rocky.

Posted by Roger Hall on 04-11-2013 02:33 PM:

Ragged Ridge C D placed 8th in the 2002 AKC World Hunt.

Ragged Ridge Jynx placed 3rd in the 2004 AKC World Hunt.

Ragged Ridge Rock placed 20th in the 2004 AKC World Hunt.

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Posted by countryboys on 04-11-2013 03:14 PM:

Thanks Everybody. When I asked this question I was thinking more red dogs have placed. Looking at it now, wow. We are a long way off from the other breeds. Now how can this be changed? Not trying to ruffle any feather.

Posted by cooter_hunter on 04-11-2013 11:59 PM:

Really though there's only been one plott dog 2 or 3 English dogs and all the rest who have won were walkers so were not to far off really considering the amount of walker dogs compare to redbones lol

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Posted by countryboys on 04-12-2013 12:14 AM:

No were not, as compared to the other breeds, but how do we as hunters and breeders of reds get that win?

Posted by MikeR on 04-12-2013 10:29 AM:

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Originally posted by cooter_hunter
Really though there's only been one plott dog 2 or 3 English dogs and all the rest who have won were walkers so were not to far off really considering the amount of walker dogs compare to redbones lol

That lame excuse about being outnumbered compared to other breeds comes up all the time. Numbers do not guarantee winners. How many professional black golfers are there....1 - Tiger Woods and we all know what he's accomplished as far as winning major events.

Redbones outnumber Plotts by yearly registration figures and attendance at major events yet the Plott breed has a World Champion and Plott dogs that have done well at several major events in the past few years.

The Redbone breed will never advance to the state of being a competitive breed unless people within the breed stop making excuses and stop being so kennel blind.

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Posted by countryboys on 04-12-2013 02:00 PM:

Mike, I totally agree with what you said. Coming over from walkers where if it was good, it really didnt matter the bloodline so much. I come over to the reds and most of the people are line blind. But blue tick people are the same way. And they haven't won anything either. In the walker circle, if it wins, breed it to see if it reproduces.

Posted by bigreddog75 on 04-12-2013 07:54 PM:

redbone

I had a plott directly out of the world champion and it wasn't worth having.there is dogs out there in the redbones that could make it to the world but its more the handlers fault than anything.everybody today is running a babbling walker or bluetick because their breed fits their game.what it takes is a skinny over rammy slick treeing babbling idiot and a lawyer as a handler to bend the rules his way to make it there jmo.

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Posted by countryboys on 04-12-2013 09:07 PM:

I don't see how everybody says a slick treeing idiot wins hunts. I kept a dog in the top 6 in Pkc state race and hardly ever won a cast with minus points. If people had slick treein idiots a redbone should have won the world already because they don't tree on just trees. At least that's what everybody says, and guess what, plus points beats minus points any day.

Posted by MikeR on 04-12-2013 11:41 PM:

Re: redbone

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Originally posted by bigreddog75
everybody today is running a babbling walker or bluetick because their breed fits their game.what it takes is a skinny over rammy slick treeing babbling idiot and a lawyer as a handler to bend the rules his way to make it there jmo.

When are you guys going to open your eyes and breed better dogs instead of continually making excuses?

I'll let you in on a secret.....The Walker breed doesn't have a monopoly on slick treeing. There are slick treeing idiots in all coonhound breeds.

The last Redbone I hunted with 3 weeks ago is owned by a guy with the same opinion and beliefs about Walkers as you do. He wanted me to handle his dog in some comp hunts. In 2 hours his red female hit 3 slick trees in a row. She was hunted alone and none of the trees were even close to being a den tree. Her sire is on the top producers list for the breed. After he finished his humble pie I politely told him I'll pass on handling her.

Slick treeing babling idiots OF ANY BREED don't win World titles IN ANY REGISTRY.

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Posted by countryboys on 04-13-2013 01:33 AM:

Re: Re: redbone

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
When are you guys going to open your eyes and breed better dogs instead of continually making excuses?

I'll let you in on a secret.....The Walker breed doesn't have a monopoly on slick treeing. There are slick treeing idiots in all coonhound breeds.

Slick treeing babling idiots OF ANY BREED don't win World titles IN ANY REGISTRY.

You got that right jack!!!

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